Hypothetical Question: Mourinho or Pep as United Manager?

apotheosis said:
WTF are you talking about? Who mentioned the CL? I am asking you why you started supporting Utd, and whether our youth and the style of our play, (which you claim is pure romanticism) played a part in your decision?

I realise now it didn't. You are basically a glory hunting, band wagon jumping, trophy whore. You are a Utd fan for no other reason than they were the team in the ascendency at the time you wanted an English team to follow.

If you had been born 10 years later, you would probably now be a Chelsea fan, 10 years earlier more than likely a Liverpool fan. That's the difference between you and me, it wouldn't have mattered when i was born i would still be a Utd fan, because i support the club that represents where i was born.

Which is probably why Utd's history, reputation and traditions are important to me, while in contrast they are completely irrelevant to you.
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Oh get off your high horse mate, people can support whatever club team they want. You don't not go see a tennis player, boxer or band because they are from another town do you so whats different with a football club? Man United is built massively off of non Manchester fans. Gtr Manchester supporters see themselves as a proper fan so why shouldnt we?

Your a United supporter no more special than the next one. All this birth stuff is rubbish, you can just be as passionate from anywhere in England and stick with the same team etc. It can be due to success yes but only becuase the big teams are on tv a lot whereas local ones are not on at all in cases. Media influence does affect sports fans, like everything really.
 
Claymore said:
Oh get off your high horse mate, people can support whatever club team they want. You don't not go see a tennis player, boxer or band because they are from another town do you so whats different with a football club? Man United is built massively off of non Manchester fans. Gtr Manchester supporters see themselves as a proper fan so why shouldnt we?
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Tennis is an individual sport for a start they represent no-one but themselves. Aside from that it has no relevance to someone following a club from the town where they were born. Furthermore passion is what i am talking about, is he passionate about the club, or the trophies we win. That is what i am asking, which seems fair considering he dismisses our history and traditions so easily.

Your a United supporter no more special than the next one. All this birth stuff is rubbish, you can just be as passionate from anywhere in England and stick with the same team etc. It can be due to success yes but only becuase the big teams are on tv a lot whereas local ones are not on at all in cases. Media influence does affect sports fans, like everything really.
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Listen i hope you read the rest of the thread before passing comment. I have never condemned anyone for being a fan of any team, but i expect those who choose Utd, to have some respect for our history all the same. I am from Manchester and i strongly object to having our traditions and history dismissed as irrelevant by some fecking glory seeker. I am happy for anyone to be a Utd fan, but i am not having anyone say our history and tradition is little more than romanticism.

So i am not on my high horse, i am responding to that specific claim by Sky, and asking whether our history or style of play had any bearing on him choosing us or not. I took from his answers that it didn't, we were simply winning trophies at the time, and then as it is remains today, trophies is all he seems to be interested in.
 
apotheosis said:
Tennis is an individual sport for a start they represent no-one but themselves. Aside from that it has no relevance to someone following a club from the town where they were born. Furthermore passion is what i am talking about, is he passionate about the club, or the trophies we win. That is what i am asking, which seems fair considering he dismisses our history and traditions so easily.



Listen i hope you read the rest of the thread before passing comment. I have never condemned anyone for being a fan of any team, but i expect those who choose Utd, to have some respect for our history all the same. I am from Manchester and i strongly object to having our traditions and history dismissed as irrelevant by some fecking glory seeker. I am happy for anyone to be a Utd fan, but i am not having anyone say our history and tradition is little more than romanticism.

So i am not on my high horse, i am responding to that specific claim by Sky, and asking whether our history or style of play had any bearing on him choosing us or not. I took from his answers that it didn't, we were simply winning trophies at the time, and then as it is remains today, trophies is all he seems to be interested in.
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You label people as 'fecking glory seeker' but you're ignorant to why they appear like glory seekers to you.

Sky mentioned the CL because presumable where he lives the CL was the big competition that was broadcast on TV, and like he said, the losers weren't broadcast there only the winners which would have played beautiful attractive football, hence winning trophies along the way. You've dismissed that compltely or failed to acknowledge that and assumed he just jumped on United because they won trophies.

Some places, the teams that win trophies are the only ones shown on TV and as such, the only teams people grow up with.
 
apotheosis said:
Tennis is an individual sport for a start they represent no-one but themselves. Aside from that it has no relevance to someone following a club from the town where they were born. Furthermore passion is what i am talking about, is he passionate about the club, or the trophies we win. That is what i am asking, which seems fair considering he dismisses our history and traditions so easily.



Listen i hope you read the rest of the thread before passing comment. I have never condemned anyone for being a fan of any team, but i expect those who choose Utd, to have some respect for our history all the same. I am from Manchester and i strongly object to having our traditions and history dismissed as irrelevant by some fecking glory seeker. I am happy for anyone to be a Utd fan, but i am not having anyone say our history and tradition is little more than romanticism.

So i am not on my high horse, i am responding to that specific claim by Sky, and asking whether our history or style of play had any bearing on him choosing us or not. I took from his answers that it didn't, we were simply winning trophies at the time, and then as it is remains today, trophies is all he seems to be interested in.
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We're all once a glory hunter. It's just that glory doesn't always equal to trophies. The first taste of glory (be it in a single match) is what got us hooked to certain clubs, being succesful means your chances of getting new batch of supporters are increasing.

You probably think glory as heroism shown by busby babes, the tenacity of Munich aftermath which gains symphaty of many, the underdog years, certain players, SAF, anything can be categorised as glory.

being successful, and winning trophies, allow United to be aired at that time (1996 vs. Juventus), that's the first time I saw them. I was rooting for Juventus, as at that time that's the only league they're showing, the Serie A.

My classmates supports various Serie A teams from AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Parma, etc. We label our mates with players like cannavaro, weah, maldini, boban, etc in a game of football.

Truth be told, I fall in love with United after that quarter final, that's when I started to follow United, trying to find out more, and in tandem with my affection for player such as Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, so does my love for United.

So, in answer to your specific question : Winning trophies is what makes United known to me, their history and past romance is what makes me loves them even more, and although I would probably not supporting United if they're not winning trophies then, I would still support united if they're not winning trophies anymore. Herein lies the difference

The point i'm trying to say :

No matter how shit you think I am as a supporter, no matter how you despise those glory hunters, they're just a younger version of you yourself.

These glory hunters will become the next generation of hardcore supporters, that supports the club thru thick and thin for the next 25 years.

There will be reasons why 25 years from now nobody will follow Liverpool FC as much as they are supported now, because they fail to maintain their success on the pitch, there are only so much history and romance can go.

Why don't you tell me why you choose to support United and not City? surely because of everything that you deemed as "good and glorious" that makes you fall in love and support them for years.
 
Sky1981 said:
So, in answer to your specific question : Winning trophies is what makes United known to me, their history and past romance is what makes me loves them even more, and although I would probably not supporting United if they're not winning trophies then, I would still support united if they're not winning trophies anymore. Herein lies the difference
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Oh so now the past, which i term as our history and tradition is what makes you love them more? Funny that, the whole point of my questioning your allegiance was because you deemed it romanticism.

You then further wrote off tradition as unimportant compared to trophies. It is these claims that have made me question why you bothered to support Utd in the first place.

No matter how shit you think I am as a supporter, no matter how you despise those glory hunters, they're just a younger version of you yourself.
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I never implied you were a shit supporter Sky, i claimed you are a trophy whore, and nothing you have said since has changed my mind. You started watching the Utd v Juve game as a Juve supporter, and by the end of the game, you were a Utd fan. Loyal to the last i see.:wenger:

These glory hunters will become the next generation of hardcore supporters, that supports the club thru thick and thin for the next 25 years.
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No they won't. Glory hunting is piggybacking on the success of the latest winners. Just like these new City and Chelsea fans that have popped up out of nowhere, once they got a bit of cash. Glory hunters don't stay through the bad times, they are only there for the good times.

There will be reasons why 25 years from now nobody will follow Liverpool FC as much as they are supported now, because they fail to maintain their success on the pitch, there are only so much history and romance can go.
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Nope wrong again. This is what happens you see when you don't really give a shit about the club you support. You start to incorrectly judge fans from your own limited perspective. Liverpool will have just as many fans, they just won't have as many glory hunters.

Why don't you tell me why you choose to support United and not City? surely because of everything that you deemed as "good and glorious" that makes you fall in love and support them for years.
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Tradition, Sky. There was nothing good and glorious about Utd's team when i started supporting them. City had a better team than Utd in the 70's. As i sadi that's the difference between a fan and a glory hunter, in the first 10-15 years of my support, we won a couple of FA cups in the whole of the 80's, and that was it right up until the early 90's, but that didn't matter to me they were the team of my family and my city, and that was all that mattered.

Try to get your head around that point of view Sky. Trophies maybe all important to you, but don't knock me for suggesting trophies are not why you support a club. They are only a bonus. What you seem to forget is Utd were still one of the world's biggest clubs when they were winning nothing in the 70's and 80's. SAF's influence has made them bigger, and brought them into a worldwide arena for fans like yourself, but they are no more defined by trophies now than they were in the 80's imo. Utd are an institution, renowned for their dedication to young homegrown players, and the attacking style of our play.

That is what defines the club, it is what gives us our identity, not the trophies we have won. They only give you bragging rights really. Trophies are what Utd and Pool fans argue about, but they don't define the relevance or the importance of either club.
 
Zarlak said:
You label people as 'fecking glory seeker' but you're ignorant to why they appear like glory seekers to you.

Sky mentioned the CL because presumable where he lives the CL was the big competition that was broadcast on TV, and like he said, the losers weren't broadcast there only the winners which would have played beautiful attractive football, hence winning trophies along the way. You've dismissed that compltely or failed to acknowledge that and assumed he just jumped on United because they won trophies.

Some places, the teams that win trophies are the only ones shown on TV and as such, the only teams people grow up with.
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I don't see the relevance of it. Starting a game as a Juve fan and finishing it as a Utd fan is fecking glory hunting in my book. Had we not won that game would he now still be a Juve fan?

You have missed the point anyway. I am not knocking any foriegn fan, nor should anyone suggest as much. I am pulling Sky for his ridiculous suggestion that our history and traditions don't mean anything compared to winning and trophies.

To him, maybe not, but as a Manchester lad, i take exception to that and have said as much. How do you think he would respond if i were to tell him his cultures traditions and history are meaningless? I won't apologise for finding that insulting and offensive.
 
apotheosis said:
I don't see the relevance of it. Starting a game as a Juve fan and finishing it as a Utd fan is fecking glory hunting in my book. Had we not won that game would he now still be a Juve fan?

You have missed the point anyway. I am not knocking any foriegn fan, nor should anyone suggest as much. I am pulling Sky for his ridiculous suggestion that our history and traditions don't mean anything compared to winning and trophies.

To him, maybe not, but as a Manchester lad, i take exception to that and have said as much. How do you think he would respond if i were to tell him his cultures traditions and history are meaningless? I won't apologise for finding that insulting and offensive.
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They probably are meaningles to you. Why would they mean anything to you?

It's not glory hunting at all. Bullshit. If I buy a flat and then I see a house I love, I'll move. If you come across something for the first time and you love it then why not support it? Personally I find the mantra you're coming across as portraying which seems to be 'pick one club, or rather not pick it, because you don't have anything to pick, you just have to choose the nearest where you live and don't ever change your fecking glory hunter traitor prick' to be absurd.

Everybody in life upgrades when they find something better. Would you actually say to fans 'you're not allowed to support United... I understand this is the first time you've ever seen them through no fault of your own, but feck you you've already got a home team to support.'

No chance, come off it.
 
apotheosis said:
Oh so now the past, which i term as our history and tradition is what makes you love them more? Funny that, the whole point of my questioning your allegiance was because you deemed it romanticism.

You then further wrote off tradition as unimportant compared to trophies. It is these claims that have made me question why you bothered to support Utd in the first place.



I never implied you were a shit supporter Sky, i claimed you are a trophy whore, and nothing you have said since has changed my mind. You started watching the Utd v Juve game as a Juve supporter, and by the end of the game, you were a Utd fan. Loyal to the last i see.:wenger:



No they won't. Glory hunting is piggybacking on the success of the latest winners. Just like these new City and Chelsea fans that have popped up out of nowhere, once they got a bit of cash. Glory hunters don't stay through the bad times, they are only there for the good times.



Nope wrong again. This is what happens you see when you don't really give a shit about the club you support. You start to incorrectly judge fans from your own limited perspective. Liverpool will have just as many fans, they just won't have as many glory hunters.



Tradition, Sky. There was nothing good and glorious about Utd's team when i started supporting them. City had a better team than Utd in the 70's. As i sadi that's the difference between a fan and a glory hunter, in the first 10-15 years of my support, we won a couple of FA cups in the whole of the 80's, and that was it right up until the early 90's, but that didn't matter to me they were the team of my family and my city, and that was all that mattered.

Try to get your head around that point of view Sky. Trophies maybe all important to you, but don't knock me for suggesting trophies are not why you support a club. They are only a bonus. What you seem to forget is Utd were still one of the world's biggest clubs when they were winning nothing in the 70's and 80's. SAF's influence has made them bigger, and brought them into a worldwide arena for fans like yourself, but they are no more defined by trophies now than they were in the 80's imo. Utd are an institution, renowned for their dedication to young homegrown players, and the attacking style of our play.

That is what defines the club, it is what gives us our identity, not the trophies we have won. They only give you bragging rights really. Trophies are what Utd and Pool fans argue about, but they don't define the relevance or the importance of either club.
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So what you're saying is that, unless I fecking do my thesis on Manchester fecking United there's no way I can ended up supporting United?

Explain to me why United was a big club on the 70 then? because of Munich?? Because of those 2 FA cup wins?? Seriously, at one time in every club, there's what fans perceived as glory, and you gotta start somewhere.

Your rationale is shit, you married your wife because he's the only thing available to you, she's living next door.

I'm starting to wonder why you support United, and would you have supported united if your house' closer to city
 
The hometown club thing is bullshit, most people who support a big club that they live near to most likely have one or two small, maybe non league, teams closer but choose to ignore them and support the big club. So about 90 per cent of football fans could be classed as glory hunters in many peoples opinion.
 
Zarlak said:
They probably are meaningles to you. Why would they mean anything to you?

It's not glory hunting at all. Bullshit. If I buy a flat and then I see a house I love, I'll move. If you come across something for the first time and you love it then why not support it? Personally I find the mantra you're coming across as portraying which seems to be 'pick one club, or rather not pick it, because you don't have anything to pick, you just have to choose the nearest where you live and don't ever change your fecking glory hunter traitor prick' to be absurd.
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Nothing to do with it. Respect the traditions and history of the club you choose. Do not dismiss them as romanticism, that is the only point i am trying to make. Don't turn it into something it is not.

Everybody in life upgrades when they find something better. Would you actually say to fans 'you're not allowed to support United... I understand this is the first time you've ever seen them through no fault of your own, but feck you you've already got a home team to support.'

No chance, come off it.
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No i have no problem with anyone supporting Utd. What i have a problem with is glory hunters who want the success for bragging rights, but who care nothing for the club or it's traditions. That is what i have accused Sky of, specifically because of his own comments dismissing our history and traditions. Can you not read? You are taking parts out of it to make another moralistic argument, which i have no interest in.

Upgrading your football club because something better comes along. WTF? I have heard it all now. :lol:
 
apotheosis said:
Upgrading your football club because something better comes along. WTF? I have heard it all now. :lol:
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So if you met someone in a distant country who had never seen United in their life, and all they knew was localteamwherethebakerwasthegoalkeeper FC and then you showed them clips from United and they started to watch games, realise what they were missing out on, etc etc you'd begrudge them supporting United?

Because that's what that last comment refers to, and you knew that's what it meant when you read it. The first time you see them, and they grab your interest and evoke the response you typically see from football supporters and they get the urge to watch them every week and get to know the club and follow them.

Nothing to do with it. Respect the traditions and history of the club you choose. Do not dismiss them as romanticism, that is the only point i am trying to make. Don't turn it into something it is not.



No i have no problem with anyone supporting Utd. What i have a problem with is glory hunters who want the success for bragging rights, but who care nothing for the club or it's traditions. That is what i have accused Sky of, specifically because of his own comments dismissing our history and traditions. Can you not read? You are taking parts out of it to make another moralistic argument, which i have no interest in.
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Turn it into something it's not? I'm replying to your comments.

Sky has talked quite passionately about the club, it's players, it's style of football. On the contrary, you're the one taking parts out of it to make it another argument, by picking up soley on the trophies part and ignoring the rest.
 
Sky1981 said:
So what you're saying is that, unless I fecking do my thesis on Manchester fecking United there's no way I can ended up supporting United?
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No. The same i have been saying to you all along. Don't dismiss the traditions and history of our club as unimportant. They may not be important to you, but as a Manchester lad they are important to me, and i don't appreciate having them simply tossed aside because they do not fit with your intention to promote Mourinho.

Explain to me why United was a big club on the 70 then? because of Munich?? Because of those 2 FA cup wins?? Seriously, at one time in every club, there's what fans perceived as glory, and you gotta start somewhere.
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Again you miss the point Sky. I didn't support Utd because they were a big club, had they been a small club i would have supported them all the same. If we had won no trophies for the last 20 years i would still be a Utd fan. Like i was when we were winning no trophies.

You are the one suggesting trophies are what defines our club and everything else doesn't matter. I disagree wholeheartedly with that statement.

I have told you why i supported Utd, tradition. I am proud of our tradition and our history and what our club represents in football. Had it been a family tradition to support City then yes i would have had an affinity with them, not Utd. What are you not grasping about that explanation?

I want a manager after SAF who will respect the history and keep the traditions Sir Matt started and SAF after him has done so much to maintain. That is what defines our club, and i would rather keep that, even if it meant limiting our future trophy haul.
 
Zarlak said:
So if you met someone in a distant country who had never seen United in their life, and all they knew was localteamwherethebakerwasthegoalkeeper FC and then you showed them clips from United and they started to watch games, realise what they were missing out on, etc etc you'd begrudge them supporting United?
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How many times do i have to reiterate that i have no problm,e with anyone supporting Utd. AS long as they do not dismiss the history and traditions of the club.

Sky has talked quite passionately about the club, it's players, it's style of football. On the contrary, you're the one taking parts out of it to make it another argument, by picking up soley on the trophies part and ignoring the rest.
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Not intially. I am responding to his earlier comments, where he completely dismissed our traditions. Now he is back tracking.
 
apotheosis said:
How many times do i have to reiterate that i have no problm,e with anyone supporting Utd. AS long as they do not dismiss the history and traditions of the club.
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So why laugh at the prospect of somebody who has just found United for the first time, switching their alleigence after having what they're missing out on, brought to their attention?
 
Zarlak said:
So why laugh at the prospect of somebody who has just found United for the first time, switching their alleigence after having what they're missing out on, brought to their attention?
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Probably because i find the notion that someone can begin a game supporting one team and based on the result, finishing it supproting another. Sorry for finding that ludicrously laughable.

That would be like one of us switching to Barca. It's just bollocks.
 
apotheosis said:
Probably because i find the notion that someone can begin a game supporting one team and based on the result, finishing it supproting another. Sorry for finding that ludicrously laughable.

That would be like one of us switching to Barca. It's just bollocks.
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I think you're simplifying it too much. As if he tuned in, and said right, whoever wins this I will now support.
 
apotheosis said:
Probably because i find the notion that someone can begin a game supporting one team and based on the result, finishing it supproting another. Sorry for finding that ludicrously laughable.

That would be like one of us switching to Barca. It's just bollocks.
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Yeah, everyone's known to be staunchly loyal to their ideals at the age of 10. It's that sort of age. A kid having some mild sympathy for a club because his mates support it means he's stuck with them for the rest of his fecked-up life. Tough luck, kids.

It's inconceivable that a 10-year-old would think "screw Rasheed/Jürgen/Igor/appropriate name for wherever Sky1981 is from, United are way cooler than this shower of shite in black and white". Kids don't do that.

EDIT: by the way, what does this have to do with Mourinho and Guardiola? 'Cause sure as hell neither slept in United pyjamas among red-white-black sheets when they were little boys.
 
ryan_forlan said:
Let's assume Whelan is right and Fergie call's it a day at the end of the coming season, whom you would you want to replace him? Jose or Pep?

I am not implying that both the managers are interested and willing, this is just a hypothetical question about which one of these two will you want.
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Let's be honest... either would be great
 
I think either would be fine as the next manager. I don't think we can overestimate how the media fishbowl combined with internal club politics has a negative effect on the manager at both clubs. I think it was worse for Pep due to his close association with Barca than Mourinho who is an outsider.

IMO Mourinho reminds me a lot of Fergie and we may be inclined to go in a different direction.
 
Manchester United coach Alex Ferguson is understood to now favour Guardiola as his eventual successor at the English club.
Man United ceo David Gill and a member of the Glazer family, that owns the club, have met with Guardiola, also to discuss his future. [espn]
 
Lynk said:
Manchester United coach Alex Ferguson is understood to now favour Guardiola as his eventual successor at the English club.
Man United ceo David Gill and a member of the Glazer family, that owns the club, have met with Guardiola, also to discuss his future. [espn]
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Huzzah!

I think :nervous:

This is straight up or a WUM?

Edit: alright found this:

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/176067.html
 
There's a wealth of speculation in that article. Silly to assume having to ex-Barcelona men in your setup is key to bringing in Guardiola. More factors to consider.
 
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has expressed his belief that Jose Mourinho would be a worthy candidate to succeed him in the Old Trafford hot seat.

The 70-year-old has been in charge at United since 1986 and has yet to reveal when he plans on stepping down from the role in order to retire.

But he has hailed the Real Madrid boss as a man with the qualities to manage the Red Devils in the future.

"He can manage anywhere, absolutely," Sir Alex told an ITV4 documentary on the Portuguese when asked if the 49-year-old could succeed him at Old Trafford.

"I would never think a guy who hasn’t played a game could be a top coach but then you’ve got to look at his personality. He’s got a marvellous, strong personality and that bridges that gap.
"I remember his first press conference [at Chelsea] and I thought, 'Christ, he’s a cocky b*****, him'. He was telling the players, 'Look, I’m the special one, we don’t lose games'.

"Bloody hell, coming to England, he is only a young man and saying he is the special one! But it told all the players to have the belief they were going to win the league."

Sir Alex went on to reveal he enjoys a close friendship with the former Chelsea boss, adding: "When he comes into my office he can take a joke against himself, that is what I like about him.

"I give him a lot of stick and he laughs it off. I don’t think it bothers Jose [having a controversial image]. He knows it is results that count."
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Source: Goal.garbage
 
Irwinwastheking said:
FFS, Fergie changes his mind on this more often than I change my boxers.
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He's probably rotating between Pep & Jose in his mind each week before he finally settles on Phelan to take over.

As good as Pep is, I'd prefer Mourinho to take over from SAF.
 
Not a great lover of mourinho and would not like him in the job but he is the only one with the balls and ego to take over from fergie.
His track record shows success with several clubs and not just one he is a winner even though some of the football played by his teams is not great.
He also acts quickly regarding subs and not afraid to make changes early when things are not working out.
Mourinho also never stays at one club for long and would not be able to cope with the tight purse strings of the glazers
 
Sky1981 said:
This phelan jokes are getting lame

Seriously, it's not even funny anymore
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It's not as stupid as it sounds.

There is a possibility he could become our manager or even the interim manager until we find a suitable candidate.

My thoughts are both Guardiola and Mourinho will end in England.

Mourinho loves London so i expect him to go to Chelsea.

City will get rid of Mancini and the fact they have appointed a number of Barca technical team suggests there is an above average chance Guardiola could end up there.
 
I would go with Pep, but with the options before him he might decide on the City option. If he chose United he will always be the person who took over from Sir Alex and would hopefully continue the winning mentality that we have and in a way would always be in Sir Alex's shadow.

However if he went to City he could win trophies and be considered a legend in there history.

I think we shouldn't be surprised if neither Pep or Jose are appointed. It could well be a David Moyes or former Man United player who gets the nod.
 
As I just said in another thread, the end of this season could turn out to be quite interesting with the possibility of jobs at United, City and Chelsea all being open, plus perhaps one or two other European clubs with big check books. Even possibly Arsenal could have an opening. Pep is available, rumour state Jose might be. This could be fun to watch.
 
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Pep taking the helm at Old Trafford. The man is a proven winner, so he's more than "qualified" for the job. Jose, too, of course.

Jose seems to want the job more intensely than Pep, which still breaks the tie for me. But Pep is a pure class act (unless there are facts out there of which I am unaware) whereas Jose does at times go Crazy Uncle.

Jose would get the job done, full stop. My only concern with Pep is that England is a different beast than Spain and who really knows whether he can adapt to a very different football culture and who really knows whether he lead a club with -- let's all be honest now -- much less football talent than what he had at Barcelona and restock the trophy case?

Jose would be the safe pick. Pep could be the more genius pick, but also the riskier one.
 
Mou all the way. Don't think Pep is as much responsible for Barcelona's success as Mourinho has been for his teams'.
 
Will people start wanting Vilanova if Barca walks the league in similar fashion to how they have started so far?

Dont see what Pep has done to warrant getting the United job. Hughes or Steve Kean would win trophies with that squad. Most of Guardiola's transfers have been questionable at best and he wont have that kind of starting squad or talent academy that he had at Barca if he comes here.

Mourinho is the obvious choice for me between the two. But there are other good managers as well that could do a job here. Ancelotti, Hiddink, Klopp (probably wont be available) that are all better choices than Guardiola based on merit.
 
RTE discussing this just now. Dunphy says he can see Ferguson retiring if we win the league this year, and Mourinho taking over.
 
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