Will probably score against Ivory Coast and yet again give it the big one
How do we sell Harry Maguire?
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Will probably score against Ivory Coast and yet again give it the big one
He didn't play well last season. He hasn't justified his fee
Excellent player who will regain his confidence and form.
He's trending towards being a sell for me as well. I'm not sure it's even worth it to keep him around as a squad option.
I don't think it will be with us though.
Offer Chelsea to not offer Rudiger new contract. Rudiger and Maguire switch. Rudiger contract is running out.
Rudiger free.
Kante contract expired next summer 2023. Maybe 40-50 mill pound to Chelsea and Roman to cash out.
Rudiger free.
Kante contract expired next summer 2023. Maybe 40-50 mill pound to Chelsea and Roman to cash out.
If they aren't even allowed to sell tea or coffee what makes you think they'd be allowed to sell players?
They can't offer contracts at the moment anyway.
Maguire had two decent seasons with us and a strong Euros with England before his utter collapse this year. I'd wager he was one of our most used players in the seasons we came 3rd and 2nd, and if he regains some form there will be plenty of interest if we want rid, although his wages will likely be an issue for the level of English teams who'd want him. Best bet for all parties would probably be a move to Italy.
Regardless of form, he will always have an issue playing in a team which wants to play a high line, especially one like ours this season where we want to play a high-line but our midfielders can't keep possession and our goalkeeper rarely ventures past the penalty spot to sweep. His best chance of getting games under the next manager (assuming we go for a front-foot sort of manager) will be to hope the club decides upgrading the midfield is more of a priority than the defence.
Regardless of form, he will always have an issue playing in a team which wants to play a high line, especially one like ours this season where we want to play a high-line but our midfielders can't keep possession and our goalkeeper rarely ventures past the penalty spot to sweep. His best chance of getting games under the next manager (assuming we go for a front-foot sort of manager) will be to hope the club decides upgrading the midfield is more of a priority than the defence.
Is Loot still a thing?
I mean, putting aside how utterly ludicrous this is and taking it at face value (despite the fact that it's not actually legal), what on earth would make you think Chelsea would be interested in Maguire?
we don't sell him. We sign a better player to start and make him fight for his place
Just fecking sell him to Newcastle and reinvest the money in a better CB or get Tarkowski as a cheaper cover and squad player. Use Lindelof and Varane for the time being while we strengthen the rest of the team.
Does Newcatle want him and pay for him? Or do we just give him to Newcaslte for free? Does Harry want to go to Newcastle? It really isnt that easy as fecking sell him to Newcastle
Apparently Newcastle is the answer to every overpaid, underperforming player. Just because Newcastle have a big bag of money doesn't mean they will spunk it on other teams failures!!
Watching old videos of Puyol. That’s what a warrior captain CB should be. Maguire need to deck off.
This is my thought as well. Maguire often charges into midfield and I think part of the reason is that our midfielders provide no protection at all and the centre backs have to push up to do it instead.
he does it for England and he did it forLeicester
The defence could hugely benefit from a natural defensive midfielder, having a layer of protection in front cannot be understated to covering angles and areas in the pockets of spaces behind. Rio makes a very good point about how well Carrick could be instructed so Ferdinand could cover other areas of priority in the defensive line with his positioning stifling the opposition's attacks.
I'm not defending Maguire, he certainly doesn't have the mentality a centre half should have to exceed at a club the level of United, he seemingly lacks a distinctive voice to communicate and is terrible one v one defending but I'd like to see if the defence is more robust with a shield in front.
I'm not defending Maguire, he certainly doesn't have the mentality a centre half should have to exceed at a club the level of United, he seemingly lacks a distinctive voice to communicate and is terrible one v one defending but I'd like to see if the defence is more robust with a shield in front.
I dont watch much of either. In that case, maybe he's just undisciplined. That said, our midfield is still more of a curtain than a wall for the opposition.
His passing has been absolute shit since his Hull days
Wow. Looking at the video, I think he hasn't regressed at all. His pace, agility, touch, and judgement have remained the same since his Hull days.
That's not the reason. Rather, the reason is because Harry isn't very good and can't read the game.
Besides that, if the Newcastle owners wanted to have a squad of overpaid and underperforming players they would have just bought Manchester United.
Can't for one moment accept that City/Pep were that interested in the guy.
He was very good in the second half of last season. Most on here felt he was the second best central defender in the league for that period, behind Dias. The huge issue is that he's been here almost three seasons now and that half a season is the only time he's been consistently good. The rest of the time he's either been consistently poor or simply inconsistent.
It’s like he’s playing the game 3 steps behind in his head.
They just bought Dan Burn for goodness sake. They'd love a Maguire.
Precisely this. The only valid option for us at the moment. Selling is currently going to be too much of a hit.
They had a choice of either one & picked Dan Burn.
Classic case of being duped into buying a player based off a international tournament, I think much like pogba the pace of which international is played at suits him down to the ground and he wouldn't be the first player that looks class on the international scene but average at club level, podolski comes to mind
We'd clearly also decided to build an English spine so identified Maguire and Wan Bissaka as the key signings.
The gutting thing is we think we've made a key long term signing then suddenly they drop off a cliff and we're back to square one.
Shaw feels just as frustrating. We waited years for injuries and other issues to go away and were rewarded with a superb season last year.
Then this year he's been woeful..not helped by Maguire having a horrible euros hangover too.
Still Have the hope that the right manager can get a lot of these players back up to speed but the last game was worrying. Everytime Maguire was on the ball the crowd were worried.
I doubt Maguire and AWB will improve from here. Maguire is almost impossible to sell while AWB might fetch 20m. Not only do we need a new manager we also need a complete new scouting setup. 130m for these players with their glaring limitations is something that we cannot afford to repeat. Not even Newcastle will buy a slow 29 year old CB on a huge salary.
Between him, Sanchez and Ronaldo, I think City leaked transfer "targets" just to see if Woodward was dumb enough to take the bait.
Between him, Sanchez and Ronaldo, I think City leaked transfer "targets" just to see if Woodward was dumb enough to take the bait.
City will probably fail at a key moment this season because they don't have a clinical striker.
So I wouldn't for a moment sneer at Ronaldo or put him in the Sanchez Maguire Fred bucket.
He's on 18 for us in a disaster season with a barely functioning team for goodness sake.
It's impossible to imagine he wouldn't have way more for City.
I'm not sure the club think's like us, he isn't being dropped which means for whatever reason (Dressing room cliques, general preference etc) so I don't see us selling him. I would be happy to simply drop him for a sustained period and/ or remove the captains armband.
They were on the verge of relegation, they could be seen as desperate to get literally anyone in who could prevent that; with an entire market open to them and the enticing 'project' (see bags of cash) ahead, they have zero need to look at Maguire when they have a sea of defenders to now pick from who will willingly go there hoping to make their fortune with no baggage and their best years ahead of them.
I think pinning any hope on them being in for Maguire is blind optimism from some; Rashford on the other hand, if he's up for sale, I can see them throwing their hat into that proverbial ring instantly.
Why don't you offer us Fred for Kante, Dalot for James and Ragnick for Tuchel as well while you're at it!
Honestly I think it would really help him do that if we took the captains armband away from him. He won’t have any pressure and can just focus on playing his game. Being the captain at Man Utd is different than at other clubs, too much scrutiny and coverage.
I said a little while ago that Ragnick should take the captaincy off him, have the armband rotating for the rest of the season and let whoever is your perm manager pick the next captain. That way Ralf takes any dressing room heat for stripping Maguire and the new guy has one less thing to worry about.
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