Television House of the Dragon (GoT Prequel) - No book spoilers allowed

Yup, plus to see him go ape-shit within minutes at an event where he’s on official duty was just daft. Up until this episode, Criston seemed to have more self-control… completely outta character

I think the scene when he first sleeps with Rhaenyra showed a lack of self-control. It barely took anything for him to jump right into bed with her. No protests or him even giving lip service to his vows at the time. The instant she showed interest, he was quick to jump into bed with her. I can't imagine, for instance, Barristan Selmy ever giving in to Daenerys like that even if she threw herself at him and commanded him. They could have given Criston another scene or two to foreshadow his impulsiveness but I don't think it was out of character at all.
 
I was enjoying the spectacle so much I didn’t even clock that we got another dragon rider. Was it Laena Velaryon or her mom Rhaenys?

The ‘bronze bitch‘ was actually pretty cool in her brief time. Did he come with the intent to kill her or was it because she insulted his impotence? Seems to be a recurring thing with him…Daemon is out there fecking up kingdoms because he has trouble finishing.
 
Daemon had to kill his wife so he could take another wife. Any guesses on who he is looking to be with?
 
Sir Criston went from being the cool non drama guy, to the biggest bitch boy in one episode.
I didn't buy it. That's the problem with all the time skips we're missing massive chunks of character development.

Edit: I wasn't a fan of Daemon's Jedi Mind Trick on the horse either.
 
Criston, you're better off, mate.

You don't want to get involved with a girl who is gushing like a tap for her own brother.
 
The action scenes with Matt Smith really let this down imo.

We had the stormtrooper aim and Rambo scene before, now we have the Horse whisperer outsmarting the hunter woman who spends her life on that horse

Other than that decent episode
I didn't get that either. I hope he had a backup plan if that didn't work.
I think you two need to watch that scene again.
 
That was the final appearances for both Miley Alcock & Emily Carey in this show and have to say both actresses were really good, particularly Miley Alcock who portrayed Rhaenyra so well.

Both have bright futures in their acting careers for sure.
 
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That was the final appearances for both Miley Alcock & Emily Carey in this show and have to say both actresses were really good, particularly Miley Alcock who portrayed Rhaenyra so well.

Both have bright futures in their acting careers for sure.

Milly.
 
That was the final appearances for both Miley Alcock & Emily Carey in this show and have to say both actresses were really good, particularly Miley Alcock who portrayed Rhaenyra so well.

Both have bright futures in their acting careers for sure.
I agree that they were 2 of the better actors over the early season.
 
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Was Ser Criston just allowed to wander off after attacking the future King consort and pummelling another man’s face in?

I’m assuming the attempted seppuku is just afterwards, as the Queen was at the marriage in the very next scene. Not sure why she stopped him though.
 
Was Ser Criston just allowed to wander off after attacking the future King consort and pummelling another man’s face in?

I’m assuming the attempted seppuku is just afterwards, as the Queen was at the marriage in the very next scene. Not sure why she stopped him though.
Book spoilers. I'm not writing it in here.
 
Yup, plus to see him go ape-shit within minutes at an event where he’s on official duty was just daft. Up until this episode, Criston seemed to have more self-control… completely outta character

Wouldn't say it's out of character at all. He's simultaneously completely obsessed with Rhaenyra, disappointed that she'll choose power over marrying him, and ashamed that he's broken his sacred vows. It's been building, and then this guy sneaks up and reveals that he knows Criston's deepest secret, and basically taunts/blackmails him.
 
That was the final appearances for both Miley Alcock & Emily Carey in this show and have to say both actresses were really good, particularly Miley Alcock who portrayed Rhaenyra so well.

Both have bright futures in their acting careers for sure.
What do you mean that's their final appearances? How could that be possible?
 
Wouldn't say it's out of character at all. He's simultaneously completely obsessed with Rhaenyra, disappointed that she'll choose power over marrying him, and ashamed that he's broken his sacred vows. It's been building, and then this guy sneaks up and reveals that he knows Criston's deepest secret, and basically taunts/blackmails him.

Agree...people are missing the point of when they were talking on the ship. Criston's mind is very "simple" and he's an inexperienced person when it comes to love, sex, and being told no. That's where the heart comes in when you're inexperienced and thus naive of it. The dude is a young guy and here's this Princess to be Queen...and she's as dick-whipped as he's "cnut-whipped". That's the raw emotion and what the hell is going on chaos that people were asking for, and now it has happened.

Alicent is now using this guy as a pawn, which shows her maturation and understanding of how things are to happen now, which became an urgent matter - for her to be totally aware and leverage/use people after she saw her father depart. And she has the support of Old Town. If that doesn't precede war and bloodshed, which it did, then so help people who can't understand the significance of it.
 
Was Ser Criston just allowed to wander off after attacking the future King consort and pummelling another man’s face in?

I’m assuming the attempted seppuku is just afterwards, as the Queen was at the marriage in the very next scene. Not sure why she stopped him though.

I thought it was after the King had collapsed - which I just laughed at because he's been through so much shit the past episode and then the hits just keep coming. Alicent was there when he collapsed, then they go to that scene with Criston. She's tapping this dude up and it's interesting to see how she's going to spare his life and use him to her advantage.
 
If you go through then end, the show runners do a show review and then preview what is to come. There's a time jump coming along and it could be significant.
Oh right, I miss those on purpose, why do they want to spoil their own show...

It's also known they won't be back next season? This jump is permanent?
 
Oh right, I miss those on purpose, why do they want to spoil their own show...

It's also known they won't be back next season? This jump is permanent?

It's part of their 'shoulder' programming and adds context to the episode. It is known, only because they have already casted and apparently shot future episodes with the "adult" Alicent and Rhaenyra. Unless the show runners for House of the Drago do GoT-styled flashbacks moving forward, don't know, then it seems to be permanent, yes.

I read a short preview and yeah, it's a massive time jump - 10 years and up to 11 characters will be replaced...that's a lot, but that's based across two to three families and then potential heirs.
 
It's part of their 'shoulder' programming and adds context to the episode. It is known, only because they have already casted and apparently shot future episodes with the "adult" Alicent and Rhaenyra. Unless the show runners for House of the Drago do GoT-styled flashbacks moving forward, don't know, then it seems to be permanent, yes.

I read a short preview and yeah, it's a massive time jump - 10 years and up to 11 characters will be replaced...that's a lot, but that's based across two to three families and then potential heirs.
Have to say I was expecting Alcock to have an epic, Daenerys like run of dragons and conquest. Here's to hoping the new actor is just as good.
 
Oh right, I miss those on purpose, why do they want to spoil their own show...

It's also known they won't be back next season? This jump is permanent?

The storyline jump is permanent. It's certainly possible they might return for flashbacks next season but storyline skips ahead now
Was Ser Criston just allowed to wander off after attacking the future King consort and pummelling another man’s face in?

I’m assuming the attempted seppuku is just afterwards, as the Queen was at the marriage in the very next scene. Not sure why she stopped him though.

Makes sense. It seems like a very Varys style move. She knows his secret and he is super vulnerable so she can leverage it, bring him in as an ally, and use him for her own agenda which she is clearly starting to do, signaled by her wearing that green dress.
 
Re Ser Criston

could it be he realized he and Ser douchebag were the dirty little secrets that could harm Reanyhra (or however you spell that] and decided to take them hoth out.of the equation, thus protecting her?
 
Re Ser Criston

could it be he realized he and Ser douchebag were the dirty little secrets that could harm Reanyhra (or however you spell that] and decided to take them hoth out.of the equation, thus protecting her?

I don't think so. He was seething at the wedding, which is how Lonmouth identified him as Rhaenyra's paramour to begin with and I don't think he was thinking that far ahead. If that was Criston's agenda, he would have been playing it much cooler during the festivities and they never would have been able to identify him in the first place. He's just acting on pure emotion.
 
I did find it strange that he managed to cave somebodies head in at the biggest royal wedding of a generation without anybody stepping in (and he managed to walk out)

but these shows always have something silly. I liked how they threw a few curveballs in, like the new hand giving the 'nod' to his henchman. Didn't know if he was going to shank up the princess but he instead saved her.
 
I don't think so. He was seething at the wedding, which is how Lonmouth identified him as Rhaenyra's paramour to begin with and I don't think he was thinking that far ahead. If that was Criston's agenda, he would have been playing it much cooler during the festivities and they never would have been able to identify him in the first place. He's just acting on pure emotion.
I do think it was out of emotion, but it looked like he was realizing something when Lonmouth walked past him. I dunno, guess I'm imagining things :wenger: he was dumb enough to asm her to leave with him on an orange cart just before, so he jsnt exactly a genius.
 
I did find it strange that he managed to cave somebodies head in at the biggest royal wedding of a generation without anybody stepping in (and he managed to walk out)

but these shows always have something silly. I liked how they threw a few curveballs in, like the new hand giving the 'nod' to his henchman. Didn't know if he was going to shank up the princess but he instead saved her.
I think that's his son. He's got two of them, one is the burly knight who saves her and the other is the weak, club-footed dude