Yeah same, when he punched him out I thought that would surely mean a swift death.
Television House of the Dragon (GoT Prequel) - No book spoilers allowed
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We probably can't compare it to GoT that was based on 5 full, albeit incomplete books. Pretty sure this show is based on half a book at best, so there isn't as much small story to build on. They have to do this in a 10 ep season format or you'd have way too many eps where the story doesn't move along at all
I thought it was a Lannister who hit Leonor? Probably still bitter about Jason being turned down by Rhaenyra.
It is a spoiler, I have watched every episode and I didn't know this was going to happen, so it's a spoiler. It may be a small one, but what is the actual point in saying it?
To be fair, they said this before the show started that there would be jumps in time and characters would change.
I must have misheard Viserys when he spoke as I thought he said the wedding would take place after 7 days of feasting and tourneys however it then took place right there and then?
I assume you understand the difference between a general statement like that, and what the poster has said.
Not sure when it was originally meant to be, but it definitely seemed like a snap decision to do it right then. Blood still on the floor
My comment is based on that you didn't know the characters were changing.
Guess it was because there was a murder on zidane's floor.
It's not a spoiler if it's been shown in next week's preview. Simple
Why do people that classify everything as a spoiler read this thread? It's ackin to auto mutilation.
Hard Disagree. Most people don't watch previews because they already know they will watch the episode.
Previews are pointless.
To discuss the episodes that happened not the ones that haven't.
I get that, but the chance of not having anything spoilt is virtually nil. I never spoiler anything mind you, but a preview? Who cares..
Spoiler that shit mate.
Ser Fabio really thought that Rhanerya would give up the kingdom to go sell beach shells in Essos with him. It's a good thing he's hot, eh?
Felt like to me he wanted to die.
He had been turned down, he'd ruined his vows of being a knight and clearly felt unworthy. He confessed pretty instantly and immediately offered to die - which seems an odd thing to do for anybody semi sane.
Most knight are not sane, to be fair. The Kinguards the least sane of them all, considering that they cannot feck, they cannot make wealth, and they cannot inherit anything. A bit similar to eunuchs in Chinese dynasties / Ottoman Empire but without cutting their testicles.
I think they can feck. Just not with their queen
If I am not mistaken, they have to take a similar oath like the Nightwatch. Of course, I do not expect many to keep that oath with Kingslanding essentially being a massive brothel and then having a very boring job. Although, I guess that Ser Barristan died virgin, he was a true knight.
They swear not to.
In the books, Arys Oakheart is a Kingsguard perspective character who is breaking this vow and he's extremely conflicted internally about it.
Yes this is spot on. He's already risen to the highest level anyone in his family ever has, then he compromised that status in a sort of fecked up and coercive way, then he finds out that it was more or less meaningless to Rhaenyra and she seems to have little regard for any consequences he might suffer.
It's important to keep in mind how important the concept of honor is for knights in particular - confessing fully is the only way he sees to potentially regain some of his.
At the spoiler issue being here almost 10 years after GoT thread explained it to everybody, and people still disputing it. Madness.I think there was a point during the scuffle where he threw Laenor to the ground, then beat that guys face to a mush.
Watching it again, immediately before the brutal attack Daemon had grasped Rhaenyra‘s face in an intimate manner. Then we switch to Viserys‘ perspective and can’t see anything through the crowd. Maybe that triggered Ser Hotstuff, him also seeing a confused perspective through the crowd thinking they kissed?
That would be funny given the doomed guy was called the Knight of Kisses.
That would be funny given the doomed guy was called the Knight of Kisses.
Ah missed that! Probably will have to do a re-watch at some point.
No they couldn't have. Them doing that allows for GOT style mess where they're working without a book to follow.
You've already seen what the writers are like and you want them to fill up even more time with their own thoughts? Okay.
I don't think the misunderstood card would be played.
It's clear Daemon has some hanky panky event with Rhaenyra's, that's no secret.
And what Criston did was in full view of the court, and he's still alive to answer for it, plain for everyone to see.
Plus, at the end of the day it's not Daemon he's bashing but Laenor's Guard, doesn't make sense.
And there's literally no point in doing what he did, Laenor's guard poses no threat, and wasn't a direct competition. Hell he should be glad knowing the marriage was just a show.
Cuntstruck is such an apt wording.
Mmmm my take on Sir Criston's actions is that as long as Laenor's lover and him are still alive, there will always be a chance for the soon to be Queen to get fecked.
By killing that guy, and then killing himself, there is no one left alive to feck the soon to be Queen, either by telling the world she was not a virgin coming wedding day, or that his King consort is gay as feck, de-legitimatizing her marriage and Queen status. (Current Queen knows, but if Criston is dead, then she can't prove it)
Remember that the idiot is apparently in love with Rhaenerys, so doing that crazy stunt out of love doesn't seem far fetched.
Now, obviously the current Queen went to stop him from suiciding because she needs him to bring the truth out. Will Sir Criston be stupid enough to be manipulated by the current Queen?
By killing that guy, and then killing himself, there is no one left alive to feck the soon to be Queen, either by telling the world she was not a virgin coming wedding day, or that his King consort is gay as feck, de-legitimatizing her marriage and Queen status. (Current Queen knows, but if Criston is dead, then she can't prove it)
Remember that the idiot is apparently in love with Rhaenerys, so doing that crazy stunt out of love doesn't seem far fetched.
Now, obviously the current Queen went to stop him from suiciding because she needs him to bring the truth out. Will Sir Criston be stupid enough to be manipulated by the current Queen?
He asked her to give up her dragon and live the life of a commoner. Ummmm yeah…
That was brilliant, the show has been very good so far.
I really hope they can pull off the time jump. Losing those two actresses is a big loss and will be pretty jarring. Milly Alcock in particular has stolen the show so far
I really hope they can pull off the time jump. Losing those two actresses is a big loss and will be pretty jarring. Milly Alcock in particular has stolen the show so far
Laenor's paramour presents a massive threat to Criston - the conversation between the two of them effectively amounts to blackmail. If Rhaenyra's affair with Criston were to be made public, Criston would almost certainly be castrated and sent to The Wall (and that's more or less a best case scenario given Westerosi precedents).
And people were complaining show lacked humor. It was also good acting on her part how she convincingly contained laughing her arse off.
That's still a great scene for comedy value. The nerve of him to even ask
Decent episode but how the flying feck did Sir Criston manage to walk out of that room without being killed/arrested? He punched the king to be in the face and murdered his best pal. Surely that whole family would have insisted that he is immediately hung up by his balls? Instead they crack on with the marriage while he wanders round the grounds of the castle being emo? WTF?
The Kingsguard are essentially unimpeachable. The Velaryons wouldn't have the authority to arrest or attack a Kingsguard knight prior to the wedding - Criston could easily claim than Lonmouth threatened him or attacked him first and everyone would accept that explanation given his position.
Not everyone watches previews and shouldn't be expected to do so. It's also in the rules of TV threads on this forum. Simple
Plus he killed the guy that corlys thought was 'just a phase' or would get over or whatever he said
Yep good point. It's unlikely that Corlys would kick up much of a fuss.