High-profile killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO in New York

all this fillet-o-fish talk is reminding of a classic family fortunes episode

the question was "name a type of ache?"
 
Maybe people who want to make a name for themselves will go for CEO shootings instead of mass shootings from now on.
 
Maagge said:
Maybe people who want to make a name for themselves will go for CEO shootings instead of mass shootings from now on.
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Conor McGregor keeps telling us he’s a mogul and I, for one, believe him.
 
moses said:
Aye, and with his student loans he really was living the American dream.
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A series of unfortunate choices led to him being stood on that street, about to make the most terrible choice of his life: McDonalds for breakfast.
 
Ajr said:
Is it definitely him though
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Yep.

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Murders a CEO, scarpers and nobody can find him but gets caught murdering a big Mac and fries in Maccy D's
 
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Scarlett Dracarys said:
Exactly. And this is the best part you get a penalty at tax time if you don't have health insurance. So whatever little you get back from taxes ( most people like myself aren't so lucky) you have to pay a penalty on that. They're like fecking vampires.
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Not anymore, the courts canned that last time Trump was in power - and you can blame Obama for that beauty as it was in the ACA
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That’s a lot of research you’ve done to basically prove my point. All those administrative costs in the US amount to 8.3% of the total healthcare spend. Now tell me again how they’re the main cause of these crazy healthcare bills?
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Chart A show that’s the US spends over half a TRILLION more in excess administration costs.

Chart B shows that the US has an administration cost ratio that is over 400% higher than the UK’s.

It didn’t prove your point at all. Especially as your original point was that insurance companies don’t cause higher healthcare costs. Therefore you’re now constructing a straw-man argument that insurance companies are “the MAIN cause”, despite several posters explaining how they comprise part of a system that incentivises pushing prices up as the money is ultimately extracted from the populace.

You are the world’s worst advert for Fillet o Fish and that includes a cold-blooded killer who may or may not revere the Unabomber.
 
Luigi Mangione's most recent book review on GoodReads; highlights include:
When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive.
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These companies don't care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?
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"Violence never solved anything" is a statement uttered by cowards and predators.
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Precaution said:
Murders a CEO, scrapers and nobody can find but gets caught murdering a big Mac and fries in Maccy D's
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Yeah, for an amateur he was doing well evading the police and everyone for 3 days then gets caught so simply is weird af.

I mean, the guy wasn't even under suspicion from the police at all from what I've seen, wasn't a name that was in their talks or anything. Wild.
 
It is really weird he was caught with a gun and a manifesto. Seems a bit too convenient?
 
NLunited said:
It is really weird he was caught with a gun and a manifesto. Seems a bit too convenient?
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well I think he was fairly obviously not intending to get away with it

did it in broad daylight and didn't bother to disguise his identity

he decided to become a martyr/famous/notorious or whatever and felt like he could do some good in the process

just my take
 
Wonder who were should kill next, bank CEOs who caused the financial crisis? Student loan company CEOs or hospital heads who charge a shit ton for operations?
 
hasanejaz88 said:
Wonder who were should kill next, bank CEOs who caused the financial crisis? Student loan company CEOs or hospital heads who charge a shit ton for operations?
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Take your pick. It's a smorgasbord of viable options.
 
Daydreamer said:
Chart A show that’s the US spends over half a TRILLION more in excess administration costs.

Chart B shows that the US has an administration cost ratio that is over 400% higher than the UK’s.

It didn’t prove your point at all. Especially as your original point was that insurance companies don’t cause higher healthcare costs. Therefore you’re now constructing a straw-man argument that insurance companies are “the MAIN cause”, despite several posters explaining how they comprise part of a system that incentivises pushing prices up as the money is ultimately extracted from the populace.

You are the world’s worst advert for Fillet o Fish and that includes a cold-blooded killer who may or may not revere the Unabomber.
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It’s a lot of money and it’s higher than the Uk. It’s still a very small fraction of the total cost of US healthcare costs. And as those graphs show, it’s not even a unique feature of their system.

I’ve never denied that they’re an important part of a fully privatised system which is insanely expensive. But trying to pretend that they are the cause (whether that’s the sole cause, main cause, whatever) of all this expense is missing the point. Which was a very simple post I made a couple of pages back. They pay for healthcare, they don’t set the cost. It’s not my fault that so many of ye are ludicrously bloody minded and absolutely determined to try to blame insurers for excessive healthcare costs that they don’t cause. Classic internet arguing. Once the mob decides someone/something is the bad guy then everything is the fault of that bad guy.
 
Actor/Agent for the masses to sink their teeth into. Real killer caught and currently at a black site for the rest of their short and miserable life. Really sad. Scary.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It’s a lot of money and it’s higher than the Uk. It’s still a very small fraction of the total cost of US healthcare costs. And as those graphs show, it’s not even a unique feature of their system.

I’ve never denied that they’re an important part of a fully privatised system which is insanely expensive. But trying to pretend that they are the cause (whether that’s the sole cause, main cause, whatever) of all this expense is missing the point. Which was a very simple post I made a couple of pages back. They pay for healthcare, they don’t set the cost. It’s not my fault that so many of ye are ludicrously bloody minded and absolutely determined to try to blame insurers for excessive healthcare costs that they don’t cause. Classic internet arguing. Once the mob decides someone/something is the bad guy then everything is the fault of that bad guy.
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The structure of the US healthcare and the pivotal role insurers play in that structure is definitely a factor in the high costs beyond the actual percentage they receive though.

You said it yourself. Lots of extras, only because it's medicine for profit.

You're stuck in the minutiae, not fighting any mob.
 
altodevil said:
Actor/Agent for the masses to sink their teeth into. Real killer caught and currently at a black site for the rest of their short and miserable life. Really sad. Scary.
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They didn’t count on altodevil from the internet seeing the whole picture.
 
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