The real fun begins when the AI runs the amortization tables and determines that Healthcare CEO's are uninsurable due to holding a high risk profession
High-profile killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO in New York
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Just don't cover murder and you're set.
That could be anyone in that video.
Since he's pleading not guilty I assume the prosecution doesn't have his prints at the scene.
Out of interest, how is it being reported in the US? And has the response followed party lines, would you say?
My brothers hospital has just brought in a new concierge charge. An extra $2,500 per year. This is in addition to his insurance payments etc. this will keep him from getting kicked off the books, and will give him his doctors cell phone number. They’ve already made it clear that it will be routed to a call answering service so the chances of getting to speak to your own doc is low. The hospital group is blaming the health insurance industry for forcing them to do this. Corrupt America, fleecing the workers
... a concierge charge? Huh? What in the dystopian feck is that?
Hospitals are barely a half step below insurance companies when it comes to fleecing people out of their money. They are co-equal partners in this shitshow.
Exactly
It’s one of the Piedmont group over your way
It's a posh title for the person who pushes your wheelchair to the door after you've had a minor surgery
Damnit, I wish I’d known! 10 hours after surgery the Duke Cancer Center handed me 2 oxy’s and sent me in my way on my own. I somehow located my wife and dad in the pickup area. At the time it seemed perfectly fine, but now?
Apparently it's like a membership fee for the hospital/doctors to see you. I've never heard of them outside of like actual concierge medicine where the doctors make house calls, or for rich people, etc.
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Policy here in STL is that you are not allowed to walk out on your own no matter what, it's always a wheelchair and they wait until your ride arrives before departingDamnit, I wish I’d known! 10 hours after surgery the Duke Cancer Center handed me 2 oxy’s and sent me in my way on my own. I somehow located my wife and dad in the pickup area. At the time it seemed perfectly fine, but now?
This is exactly it. It’s nothing to do with being wheeled in or taking your bags. You don’t pay it, you haven’t paid your membership fee and you get booted off their lists
Is just ridiculous that many millions, maybe a majority of the US wants this system
Which makes sense when you consider the fact that Insurance companies are as far as I know the main investors in Health Care either directly or through the parent company which is often a bank. In the case of Unitedhealthcare it shouldn't be forgotten that they are also Health care providers.
It's an interesting system when you think about, they make people take insurances for overpriced services that they provide themselves at fees that are set by themselves. It's a bit like the Mafia, you pay them to protect yourself from them.
The vast majority do not want to the current system. But because of Citizens United and SC, the people who profit from it own the politicians on this issue.
The biggest (or 2nd biggest) investors in hospitals are private equity like Blackrock.
Which is my main issue with the ACA. It did a couple of good things like making sure people with pre-existing conditions can't be denied coverage and lower the cost of prescription drugs by a bit. But overall, the ACA was a failure because it didn't actually address the fundamental problems with this worst of all worlds healthcare system. It didn't fix the misaligned incentives, it didn't fix the transparency problem of pricing, it didn't fix how broken the overall system is. Sure it's better than what the GOP would have done but that's a taller than Mickey Rooney situation.
Whilst true the same applies to hospital's that are not owned by insurance companies, my local one is a non-profit and still charge basically the same rates
it's manufactured consent
That side of things is interesting because they finance their spendings with the services to patients, borrowings and investments. The last two are important because in both cases I would be willing to bet that the same banks that are involved in for profit health care are the ones loaning the money or managing the investments.
Same with guns
You are probably right, either way they have you by the balls no matter what!
Noted. I always had the perception that if not the majority, at least 40% of the population "dont want to pay for others people health care in a socialist model" in US
Do you think the last decade reached a breaking point and finally the US population realized?
That's the manufactured part. It's the idea that the US isn't largely built on socialism like every other nation. Lobbyist and politicians somehow have success with these type of ideas in particular topics like healthcare. But people somehow don't extend those ideas with security, roads, gas, water or a very large part of the food industry, the reason they don't is because lobbyists don''t send the same messages in these industries.
Your perception is not wrong but it's not specific to healthcare
Part of the problem is that they are brainwashed in to thinking that the US does everything better than anywhere else, given that most Americans have never travelled abroad they don't know any better
There are a gazillion reaction videos on YouTube where they react to stuff in other countries and are completely taken aback at what they see, the education system has a lot to answer for IMO but it's not just that, politicians and big business are just as culpable
Any UK politician that wants our healthcare system to resemble this nightmare needs to be thrown into the sea.
Good job none of them have ever tried to do it, all that's ever happened is tinkering around the edges
This has picked up some traction.
I'm really surprised it was aired in its entirety; he took pot shots at CNN and Fox for their bias and showed support for a murderer and got laughs for it! I wonder how much thought went into letting go to air, really surprised me.Saw that last night.
“Free Luigi!”
Have to love Burr for the balls he's got to say what others wouldn't dare to!
Luigi deniers