Henrikh Mkhitaryan | José says "We have three"

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Fast, strong, quick thinking, good movement on the break, confident in possession, confident out of possession, breathes fire, natural leader, great vision, shoots laser beams out of his arsehole, can recite the entirety of War and Peace in twelve different languages at the same time.
Yes I'm doing this for every signing this summer, sod off Cina.

Well, he's apparently fluent in 6 languages, so he's getting there ;)
 
You'd think by now that Dortmund fans would be used to losing their best players on a yearly basis.

It's also not like we raid them on a regular basis. Last player we signed from them was Kagawa, and we shipped him back to them.
 
It's also not like we raid them on a regular basis. Last player we signed from them was Kagawa, and we shipped him back to them.
I think he meant in general, he never referenced us.
 
Dortmund are so fecking small-time. And to think I always had a soft spot for them. They can do one. Hope Bayern trash them for another decade.

Well Bayern will certainly continue to pluck whoever they want from Dortmund with no resistance.
 
Funny considering how we bought just 1 player more from them than you have.
3 is quite a lot. Especially comparing to English football .

The last time a player moved directly between United and Liverpool was in 1964 .

I think English football culture is different and players don't generally move between rivals. It's different in Italy and Germany though.
 
The English media clueless again continuing to report that nonsense 26m£ for him, when in reality it is more around 35m£ and thats not a bargain at all. People who believe that laughable 26m£ number are as clueless as the English media. After the disgusting behaviour by Raiola and Mkhitaryan (again), who did the same dirty stuff with Shakhtar before joining Dortmund, its no wonder that they are having a dig at him. Raiola and Mkhi have been classless and thats what you get. Dortmund got what they wanted and squeezed over 40m€ out of United for a guy with just one year contract, so in the end both parties are happy. I m pretty sure, they wont deal with Raiola ever again.
Stuff like this makes the transfer even better
 
Mourinho, Ibra, Mkhit, Bailly AND I'm going to count Shaw as well as a new addition.

Someone needs to sign Messi to beat that.
 
He's quicker than De Bruyne. De Bruyne is an apt comparison. Both aren't pure playmakers.
He's very different from Ozil.
De Bruyne is couple of levels above Mkh. He's one of the best passers in the world and is very very direct which means he keeps on creating chance after chance. Mkh is more like Pedro's(offensively) and Oscar's(defensively) love child.
 
3 is quite a lot. Especially comparing to English football .

The last time a player moved directly between United and Liverpool was in 1964 .

I think English football culture is different and players don't generally move between rivals. It's different in Italy and Germany though.


Bayern and Dortmund don't share a historically grown rivalry like Utd and Liverpool, though.
Hummels wanted to leave, Lewa didn't renew his contract. It was either we jump in or those players would have gone elsewhere. Götze is the only one where you could make a case of us actively prying a player away from them. But then, again, he wouldn't have stayed there forever either.
 
3 is quite a lot. Especially comparing to English football .

The last time a player moved directly between United and Liverpool was in 1964 .

I think English football culture is different and players don't generally move between rivals. It's different in Italy and Germany though.

They are not local rivals, Schalke-Dortmund is an other story though.
And Arsenal sold more players to City than Dortmund sold to Bayern.
 
Bayern and Dortmund don't share a historically grown rivalry like Utd and Liverpool, though.
Hummels wanted to leave, Lewa didn't renew his contract. It was either we jump in or those players would have gone elsewhere. Götze is the only one where you could make a case of us actively prying a player away from them. But then, again, he wouldn't have stayed there forever either.
Yes.

I am trying to show how different the cultures are.

And had anyone been in Bayern's shoes,they'd done exactly the same . It's just that in England it's just that much more difficult.
 
--------------------De Gea-----------------

--TFM----Bailly-----Smalling-----Shaw--

----------------Schneiderlin--------------

-------------Herrera-----Mata----------

-Mkhitaryan----Zlatan----Martial/Memphis

I think Mou would be very disappointed with that central midfield. Too soft and too slow.

Schneiderlin/Carrick---Pogba;)---Schweini/Rooney

But I still miss a strong defensive CM.

Fantastic signing....hopefully Mourinhos syle wont affect his play too much.

Of what little I've seen of Mhkihey he has impressed me a lot. He will fill a position where we have struggled for years.
 
They are not local rivals, Schalke-Dortmund is an other story though.
And Arsenal sold more players to City than Dortmund sold to Bayern.
I don't really think Arsenal and City are much of rivals. Especially historically .

I don't particularly have anything against Bayern poaching the best players in their league. It's one way to stay ahead and Bayern have no responsibility to foster competition . Their obligation is to their fans and that includes trying to win as much as possible.
 
No, it isn't. I get why you trying to make it so, though. That way you claim the moral highground on how bad we are while pissing your pants out of laughter when it's you buying one of their gems.
For Dortmund it doesn't make a difference to whom they are losing their key players to, as long as they are losing them. Dortmund selling to us or not also doesn't change anything about our spending power.
Losing Hummels to Utd instead would have just meant us buying another high profile CB elsewhere.

No you numpty, selling one of your good players to the team competing for the same trophy in the same league is clearly worse. Its common sense.
 
Nice, hopefully he won't be another Kagawa - that is, he shines as a part of the Dortmund squad which has amazing chemistry, but fails to do as well here. He'll be facing much stronger defences here as well. Fingers crossed. It's all up to Mou and his man management.
 
I don't really think Arsenal and City are much of rivals. Especially historically .

I don't particularly have anything against Bayern poaching the best players in their league. It's one way to stay ahead and Bayern have no responsibility to foster competition . Their obligation is to their fans and that includes trying to win as much as possible.

I'm sorry but you compared it to English football and said that it was a lot, even though Arsenal did it a lot more than Dortmund. You then compared it to United and Liverpool but Dortmund and Bayern don't have that type of relationship.
 
I'm sorry but you compared it to English football and said that it was a lot, even though Arsenal did it a lot more than Dortmund. You then compared it to United and Liverpool but Dortmund and Bayern don't have that type of relationship.
But equivalently Bayern and Dortmund have a proper rivalry unlike Arsenal City.

That's the point I was making Maybe United and Liverpool were to extreme an example.
 
Tbh, I don't see the big difference to your league. Bigger eats smaller. Players like Ferdinand, Rooney or Shaw weren't Utd academy products either. The reason why Bayern stands out is because they are the only team in Germany which experienced excellent management over a long period.
Not much different to the PL, where Utd dominated in the same manner before you had an influx of sugar daddies pouring in.
Dortmund is still on a good path, though. If they continue on like that, they'll be able to catch up to us in a couple of years. You can't just expect something like this to happen overnight.

Well, it's not that often you see transfers between english clubs that are close rivals. Sol Campbell is the only name that comes to mind... sure there has been some every now and then, but there seems to be more common in Germany. Ballack, Ze Roberto, Rode, Lewandowski and Götze. That just "recent" years and not accounting for any other team than Leverkusen and Dortmund. I didn't mention Hummels because of his history with Munich.
 
But equivalently Bayern and Dortmund have a proper rivalry unlike Arsenal City.

That's the point I was making Maybe United and Liverpool were to extreme an example.

No, they have the same competitive rivalry, the difference being that financially Arsenal are closer to City than Dortmund are to Bayern. Which makes it even stranger.

Historically I wouldn't surprised if Gladbach are a bigger rival and I remember that there is a story with Hamburg.
 
De Bruyne is couple of levels above Mkh. He's one of the best passers in the world and is very very direct which means he keeps on creating chance after chance. Mkh is more like Pedro's(offensively) and Oscar's(defensively) love child.
Don't want to argue but I disagree with your comments. Mkhitaryan has four more to his game than Pedro. He's a much better dribbler, he's a better passer , he's more ambidextrous and can play in more positions.
We will see how he does but I disagree with you saying De Bruyne is a couple of levels above, whatever that means.
 
No, they have the same competitive rivalry, the difference being that financially Arsenal are closer to City than Dortmund are to Bayern. Which makes it even stranger.

Historically I wouldn't surprised if Gladbach are a bigger rival and I remember that there is a story with Hamburg.
Historically they don't though.

Before 2008 Arsenal and City was basically just another game. It's only changed recently.

Bayern and Dortmund rivalry go back far back. They are not necessarily each other's biggest rival, but they share a significant rivalry being argurably Germany's big two and the last two win the European cup from that country. It's not Liverpool United rivalry of course.
 
He's a bit obsessed with himself looking at his twitter......just his own stats being retweeted, odd -_-
 
Mikkiehitonyourmum, or however you spell his name, was the best player last season in the Bundesliga, even better than Lewandoski imo.
 
He's a bit obsessed with himself looking at his twitter......just his own stats being retweeted, odd -_-
We've just signed Zlatan Ibrahimovic, I wouldn't worry about Targaryen.

Oooh, can we call him The Dragon?
 
Historically they don't though.

Before 2008 Arsenal and City was basically just another game. It's only changed recently.

Bayern and Dortmund rivalry go back far back. They are not necessarily each other's biggest rival, but they share a significant rivalry being argurably Germany's big two and the last two win the European cup from that country. It's not Liverpool United rivalry of course.

Dortmund rivalry isn't historical, they are only rivals when they are both fighting for the title.
 
Chill our guys. Who cares what they've said; we've got a great player, they've got a lot of money.
 
We've just signed Zlatan Ibrahimovic, I wouldn't worry about Targaryen.

Oooh, can we call him The Dragon?

Call him what you want I don't watch GoT though but I've seen the pictures on Social Media.

I'll call him Saving Private Mkhita Ryan though. (I just made that one up copyright me).
 
Call him what you want I don't watch GoT though but I've seen the pictures on Social Media.

I'll call him Saving Private Mkhita Ryan though. (I just made that one up copyright me).
We're going to do beautiful things together.
 
So is he a right winger or not? Read that he was not good on the right but through the middle
 
It's beautiful how Dortmund specifically point out in their announcement that United finished 5th and that they wish him well in the Europa League next season :lol:.
didn't they also do something similar with gundogan and manchester city ? :lol:
 
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