He needs to at Least Make the Bench, with some minutes at the end to prove himself
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We'll see how it pans out in the next few games. Usually side with manager with those kinds of issues, but Mourinho has a history here. Hopefully Micki is given a chance soon enough, we could use someone like him right now
I think Mikhi probably gone in January. Either loan or sold. This kind of issue is not something new with Jose. The most recent I can think of was Guadrado and that Atletico lb. Bought for big money, but Jose never played them. Shite man management I dare to say.
That's what makes me worry. There is evidence of him doing this sort of thing previously. How can you buy players for millions of pounds and not give them a chance. It's ridiculous.
I still hope it's a case of settling in like Jose has said but I'm afraid that's naive.
Felipe Luis from Atletico. Truly poor man management from Mourinho's side indeed. Publicly criticising Lingard and Mikhi (he was still injured) for City game, Shaw (also had an injury going into that game) for Watford game, Smalling (also had an injury for Chelsea game) and again Shaw for not playing against Swansea, whilst keeping quiet on some truly terrible performances from Zlatan and Rooney.
I find it odd that some United fans have such an obsession and belief in Mhiki when all we have seen so far in the a United shirt has been well below the standard we have come to expect at United.
Jose has seen him in training and the only realistic scenario is that he does not think he is as good as our other options. This whole #FreeMiki stuff is a joke, some fans seem to think that he will be the answer to everything and that Jose somehow is holding onto an ace in his hand. Quite simply might not be the case, from what I've seen it isn't.
If it's not going to work out I'd rather sort it in January and move on.
Jose has seen him in training and the only realistic scenario is that he does not think he is as good as our other options. This whole #FreeMiki stuff is a joke, some fans seem to think that he will be the answer to everything and that Jose somehow is holding onto an ace in his hand. Quite simply might not be the case, from what I've seen it isn't.
If it's not going to work out I'd rather sort it in January and move on.
Wow, you have no patience do you? how many minutes has he even played so far? Plenty of big players have moved to a new league and team and not clicked straight away but ended up playing well.
Ozil to Arsenal
Bale to Madrid
Suarez to Barcelona
Look at the above names, all didn't click straight away.
Do you worry that 40 million purchase and 12 million salary player can't even make the bench in November, while the team are 6 points behind the 4th spot? The other options are not really performing either.
I just hope he'll become our secret weapon for the second half of the season. We've been warned for what's happening now by Dortmund fans though, but if he can get back to his level of last year, we have a mighy fine player in our hands.
No I don't have the patience, we do not have that luxury in the prem. The players you mentioned were all regular starters as soon as they were bought and their first season stats were not bad at all ?
Ozil to Arsenal - 39 appearances, 5 goals and 14 assists.
Bale to Madrid - 36 appearances, 22 goals and 16 assists.
Suarez to Barcelona - 41 appearances, 24 goals and 17 assists.
Does Mhiki look like he is going to reach even 50% of those stats this season? Can you give any reason why Mhiki hasn't started more games other than him not playing well?
I'm not saying he is not a good player but we have to accept the fact he is not making the team, not even making the bench in most cases and when he has played he has been poor, barely showing any glimpse that he is worth starting.
Most of those played every game while improving. I don't see how Mkhi will improve if he doesn't play? You don't get game intensity from training, only matches.
Jose clearly felt in training he was "ready" for the intensity of a derby, so no reason why he isn't ready for any other games. Strange.
Good post. The hero worshiping of new players is really bizarre. Mkhitaryan is in for a real fight to save his United career
Yes I do worry, because Jose is not stupid. It's not like he has a player in the team who he knows will score and assist and shit load of goals but choosing not to use him right now. He has a player lacking confidence, not playing well when he gets an opportunity. I don't think at United you can afford to miss opportunities regardless of how much you cost. Reminds me a lot of the Depay situation.
Thats my point. If he was playing and playing shit is one thing, but the other poster said he has been shit all based on 3 performances?
Suarez had like 2 goals in his first 15 or so games, In January 2015 there were strong calls for Enrique to be sacked as the team was under performing and their star summer buy was poor. But Messi went back to the wing position and let Suarez play central and the rest was history. As for Mikhi, I don't know why he isn't playing. No one apart from Jose and his coaching staff. My point was more about you writing him off without having seen enough of him.
We went through a lot to get him too - Raiola throwing chairs and overpaying (30m+ is a lot for a player with no resale value). And its not like he was purchased before Jose came in, he was done way after Jose was announced. Only Jose can tell us why we went through all of that and not even bother to give the guy a chance.
Like many people pointed it out, all of those were playing regularly even tho they were quite poor.
Mikhi played well in pre season and he looked good, than he got just a single minute of game time against Leicester in Carling Cup which was odd IMO.
It's pretty obvious to see that Jose doesnt rate him, he often takes instant dislikes to certain attacking players - De Bryne comes to mind but there are several others that came with decent reputations and he barely gave a chance to before moving them on
Doesnt mean it is all over for Mkhi but when Jose prefers the useless Memphis on the bench as an attacking option then its not looking good
Doesnt mean it is all over for Mkhi but when Jose prefers the useless Memphis on the bench as an attacking option then its not looking good
Sell him in January if Mourinho is not going to give him minutes at all. We've all seen this before with a few others he's managed. If United do sell I hope they recoup most of his transfer fees at least.
The most worrying aspect of all this for me is that depay is on the bench ahead of him , we may not as supporters know too much about what is going on with Mikhi but we have all witnessed on many occasions what an absolute disaster depay has turned out to be , so the realisation that Mourinho still puts Depay ahead of him is truly damning .
This guy must be truly awful in training or his attitude must be bad for him to sit behind Depay in the pecking order
This guy must be truly awful in training or his attitude must be bad for him to sit behind Depay in the pecking order
But did he get an opportunity? 45 minutes against City, not clear he was still injured or not, and 2 months later against Fener at 0-2.
I have never seen such a long performance thread for someone who has not played a full game for us and perhaps a 20-minute cameo
Right on, if I were Woodward, the player or his agent I'd be fuming looking at what all the parties had to through to complete the move and how he's been treated. Its not about making him an undisputed starter but simply giving him a fair crack.....as long a leash as has been afforded every other attacking player in the squad. It's clearly personal and if we miss out on top 4 Mourinho deserves to walk because he would have underachieved whilst under utilizing a very expensive asset which could have contributed to our success. Absolutely terrible management.
He's probably begging on his knees now to get released from his contract and Mourinho is enjoying every minute of it. You thought he was done with the humiliation when he put Schweinsteiger in the youth squad, but no. He already planned his next move - poor Mhiki. Hope Mourinho have got some humanity left in him and just let this dude off the hook. It's becoming painful for everyone now.
This is the point people are deliberately missing, I say deliberate because no one can be thick enough to classify the minutes Mkhitaryan has been given as anything remotely resembling an opportunity.
Far more likely that he cried after the City game than standing up to Jose like that. People are still scrathcing their heads trying to understand this but won't even consider that the stories were true.
I like how much mileage we've got from this saga despite knowing basically nothing that's going on behind the scenes.
Maybe Mkhitaryan called Mourinho's daughter some rude names before defecating under the Holy Trinity and wiping his ass with the the United badge? Anyone consider that yet? That seems like a more plausible theory than Mourinho deliberately freezing him out despite him apparently being a super duper awesome player just so he could settle some personal scores with him. Or maybe Mkhitaryan is just rubbish.
I think the poster you're responding to was banned.
People get bored and like to speculate, though most spew nonsense without any evidence to back it up.
I've stopped caring about if he plays or not at this point. This is exactly the kind of situations you get with Mourinho as your manager. You just have to accept it and move on.
Looks like he has finally won him over with his attitude. Unlike shaw and other players he has only said the right things to the press. One thing Mourinho values is Loyalty. Hope mkhi does well with his chance.
I wont post the shit stirring article from Ducker, but these are Mou's quotes, if you read the article it will look like mou murdered him in press.
Every other word on the article is bullshit.
The way his article is presented and the headline written is really poor. From Mourinho's comments it seems like he understands that Mkhitaryan is feeling the pressure at the moment and that he felt putting him into such a big game was unfair. It was a high pressure game and for someone that has been under as much scrutiny as he has of late then it could well have gone the way of the City game where it totally passed him by and made things worse.
Giving him a chance in the Feyenoord game is the best thing for him and he can build himself into the team. Playing well and making a solid contribution to the game in the form of a goal or assist would be massive for him.
I think Mourinho appreciates the work he's put in and the fact he's not moaned to the press and just got his head down.
Well let's hope it's a great game against Feyenoord.
Finally, some news! Can't wait for Thursday, I really hope he can take full advantage of this opportunity.
Thanks.
Let's hope Mkhi shows his quality.
I notice Ducker also wrote an article about Martial on the back of Gary Neville setting the agenda yesterday. Couldn't get any more predictable.
Mourinho gave him a whole lot of praise, which was very well deserved imo, after he came on as a sub against Southampton. Then two weeks later he bombed in the game vs City and hasn't been seen since. I don't buy the talk that Mourinho doesn't rate him, there has clearly been some going ons behind the scenes otherwise he should have played more since all of our wingers except Mata has been pretty dire.
Also, if he doesn't rate him then why did he want to buy him in the first place?
It'd be crazy if our success this season comes from Mata and Mkhi - two players that Jose once took a dislike on
Football, bloody hell
Football, bloody hell
It's what Redcafe is all about.Really can't help but chuckle. There just seems to be this unanimous code amongst journalists to push one particular agenda. An alternate one is how Stones went from defensive liability to one of the best CBs in the league under Guardiola despite his game really not improving much at all - if any - in the past however many months.
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