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Pilip has spoken. Sounds like its definitely true then.
Who's Pilip. And where's his h?
Anyway hoping to see Micky soon. If he doesn't feature in the next two games something's definitely not right.
Anyway hoping to see Micky soon. If he doesn't feature in the next two games something's definitely not right.
He's runs a radio show on satellite radio out of California. Claims to have a few contacts at the club. Comes in handy during transfers season but not so much once the regular season starts.
Well, as a start the myth that he was player of the year in the Bundesliga is annoyingly persistent just like it was with Kagawa. Doesn't matter how often someone posts that they really weren't.
Certainly makes sense, but it's worrying why Jose would even green light him when he MUST have known his personality. It's been well documented he's a slow starter and a bit of a shy chap.
Then again nobody thought he would drop Rooney either, so perhaps Jose really is just easing him in? I can't see why he would starter him against City if he didnt trust him (unless he just wanted to throw him under the bus)
Why would that be the case? We've had some difficult characters at OT who needed to be handled with care which include Cantona and Ronaldo (he needed a father figure). Did you know, that as a kid, Roy Keane had sent an application to all major clubs but to us? He believed that he wasn't good enough to play with a club like ours.
I think the H got injured too He's United's treatment room expert having taken the role, from Owen and Rafa
Was he a stand-out player in the Bundasliga last year? If so, does it take away much from the point these people are trying to make?
Phil Jones is our treatment room expert
Clearly driving in a German race car on internaitonal circuits is not the same intensity as sitting in an English bus.
exactly
Don't forget Paul 'best midfielder in the world' Pogba.
This thread is gold 
He was named player of the season in a "player's player" poll by Kicker magazine: http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...ryan-waren-die-besten.html#omfbLikePost?ddt=1
He was also (comfortably) the highest rated player on Whoscored.com in the Bundesliga, as Pogba was in Serie A and Zlatan in Ligue 1.
No. The point is: can Mourinho handle him/such players and get the best out of him? If not, why United bought him considering everything is known about Micki. Whats the point of all that? It was obvious and known for everyone, you dont had to be a IDK to know what leaded Micki to his sensationel performances last year: the enviroment at Dortmund with a coach who had a connection to him. If i buy this guy then i have to know how i could get the best out of him and all the circumstances. But it seems that there was another senseless buy in the transferhistory of United or there is just no coordination between the guys in the club who decide who to buy and the coach or i dont know. The other side of the coin is a suprisingly stupid Micki who throws away an enviroment and a coach who brings him to shine and who gets the best out of him (at least after 2 years of ups and downs) to play in club who has no CL and who has a new coach known as rough and motivate and handle his players in a totaly different ways then he needs.
After all, another time like in the past with Kagawa we say thanks for the money and good luck with the player. But for United thats leaves some questions again. I adored his perfomances and his style but was shocked like @Crossie said above about his refusal to take the penalty at the cup final, a top player like him has simply to do that and at the latest decide to shoot if he sees that our never shooting CBs have to shoot. We need other players to take the next step.
Surely we just need to play him in some of the easier games and let him acclimatise. He certainly isn't going to do it not playing.
Just read something very worrying about this whole thing that if true, his time at the club is over already.
Could be false but apparently after his sub in the City game he almost immediately broke down in tears after the game and begun asking for a transfer out in Jan, Jose was apparently shocked at just how weak mentally he is and just wont stand for it and has decided to cut him loose unless he sorts himself out "we are men not boys".
Questionable source but if true there is only one option and thats out the door, pathetic from him if true.
Could be false but apparently after his sub in the City game he almost immediately broke down in tears after the game and begun asking for a transfer out in Jan, Jose was apparently shocked at just how weak mentally he is and just wont stand for it and has decided to cut him loose unless he sorts himself out "we are men not boys".
Questionable source but if true there is only one option and thats out the door, pathetic from him if true.
Do you really believe that?
Well we dont have much else to assume, not including him plus his recent history for being mentally weak is there to see.
Mkhitaryan needs a Manager who makes him feel special & keeps close to him.
It didn't work under Klopp - Tuchel made him feel unique (told him he was the most gifted player he had seen & the best at Dortmund), that's why he played an incredible last season.
With him, it's definitely a mental problem.
It didn't work under Klopp - Tuchel made him feel unique (told him he was the most gifted player he had seen & the best at Dortmund), that's why he played an incredible last season.
With him, it's definitely a mental problem.
Jose is to blame for this. He wanted the player and should've known he needs special treatment to perform.
Probably just bullshit but who knows at this stage. If true then I'm lost for words...
Bless him, perhaps a cup of coco and a footrub from mummy will make him feel better, what an utter pathetic drip. Sort it out, this is the Premier League not daycare centre. Pick your bloody self up and get on with it would be my advice, Jose is being very kind by not throwing him under the bus if this is all true.
He could come out and say Mikhi is mentally weak and seems to need reassurances every time he goes for a dump.
He could come out and say Mikhi is mentally weak and seems to need reassurances every time he goes for a dump.
Yeah that should sort his mental weakness.
It's obviously up to the manager to get the player to perform. If this involves not playing him until he thinks he's ready then so be it. After having such a shocker on his debut it's not the worst thing in the world to keep him out of the spotlight since. He'll have to get thrown back in at some point, though.
I admire Mkhitaryan for his football ability but if rumours are true then he's mentally weak and probably won't cut it here because of that. Hopefully it's all just paper talk and Miki get's back in the team and shows what he's capable of.
And let's not forget that Mourinho previously got Di Maria playing the best football of his career. A player that is similarly talented but evidently as mentally fragile as they come.
This is what separates Mourinho from SAF in my opinion. SAF was always aware that some players needed to be treated differently. I highly doubt Mourinho is that kind of guy.
Di Maria played his best football under Ancelotti in 13/14.
Can you get this far in professional football if you are that mentally weak? Seems highly unlikely.
Mourinho sold De Bruyne for similair reasons, he has to make sure to not make that mistake again
Seems that you can get far, if your decisions are right and you are clever enough to play under a coach who gets the best out of you. On the other side its weak politics for a club to spend 45mio € on a player where you know that he needs an special enviroment to shine and then dont take care of this fact.
Eh? He sold De Bruyne because the player forced a move for regular first team football. Is Mkhitaryan trying to leave for the same reasons?
He is clueless. What does he know about the insides out of a European team when he is shacked out in Los Angeles? He guesses and when you guess as much as he does you are going to get something right eventually. But hey, He had Paul Parker on his Podcast once...
De Bruyne is for me the best example how Mourinho seem to not being capable of dealing with some sort of players and therefor is not capable of get the best out of some potential, maybe worldclass potential. For me the worst decision you can do if you are young player is to seign at Chelsea, but De Bruyne did. There Mourinho was holding him back for a long time, and didnt allowed de Bruyne to go to Dortmund, telling him storys that he needs him. The end is well known, de Bruyne waited half a year and finally went to Wolfsburg where he immidiately showed his potential. That whole story tells you a lot about Mourinho.
Football manager in trying to hold onto talented young footballer shocker. Outrageous behaviour. Won't someone think of the butt-hurt Dortmund fans?!
Yeah he sure showed Mourinho by winning the square route of F all and Jose winning the title.
De Bruyne for sure is a wonderful player and a huge talent but when you are chasing a title you cant be allowing players to dictate who is playing by holding the club to ransom. He wasnt playing that well for Chelsea despite many chances and now only after pulling his socks up after getting what he wants is he performing to his standards.
Its all very well to criticise in hindsight
I can believe that. Like i said during the City game, he wasn't just playing bad, he looked...broken. I've never seen a player do it before at this level but he looked like he wanted to get off the pitch after about 20 mins.
I don't think he did get many chances at Chelsea tbf. It's getting harder and harder to bring through youngsters and compete for PL titles though. Ironically, Mourinho is partly responsible by raising the bar - in terms of squad depth - when he was at Chelsea. Which is something Fergie himself eventually struggled with, losing players like Pique and Pogba.
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