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2016-17 Performances


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41
Goals
11
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5
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He had a lot of assists. And he was playing really well, contributing to the team winning games.
When Suaez, Bale or Modric had such a dreadful game as Mkhitaryan against City?

He wasn't playing well. His touch was heavy and he looked out of place playing with Messi and Neymar. Once he was settled he starting bossing games though. To say Suarez clicked straight away is just wrong.

5 goals in all competitions (La Liga + CL) till Feb was awful start however way you look at.

Check Bale's game against Atletico Madrid in his first derby. He barely had a kick, he was shit. Was he as poor as Mkhitaryan? Who cares. Point was great players started slow and then turned it around. It happened many times.
 
Can't understand what's happening to him, hopefully not a long term injury or attitude problems. The Mkhi of last year was basically the perfect Mourinho type attacker.
 
I just hope Jose doesn't make the same mistake as KDB. He can be quite stubborn and unwilling to change his opinions of a player the first time
 
What are the Dortmund fans saying about all this?
I'm just one Dortmund fan but can share what my BVB mates are saying; needless to say that we're not necessarily representative of all BVB fans.

Many don't care how he's doing, and a few sneer at him.

He burned bridges first when he refused to take a pen in the penalty shoot out in the cup final (so that our poor defenders with known suboptimal shooting skills had to do it); that was really low and unacceptable.
He burned even more bridges when he kinda blackmailed his way out, threatened to boycott training and all that. Hardly anybody questions his abilities, most think that his true ceiling is closer to the last season than to the one before when in the first 20 matches everybody par Auba was shit and he created a lot in those remaining 14 matches.
However, many question his mentality and character for the two reasons mentioned above.
 
Feck that. Sounds like absolute garbage to me. Unable to cope with the physical demands? Not only has he only played about 60 minutes of football for us, he came from one of the most intense sides in Europe!
 
That has to be the shittest Telegraph piece I've ever read.

He basically says coaches raised concerns about Mkhitaryan because of Kagawa. :lol:
 
In amongst all that waffle the real meat of the article is this:

"His prolonged absence from the team, it is understood, is merely due to Mourinho believing that the player has yet to adjust to the intensity of English football."

Which is fair enough, he needs to adapt and it wouldn't be fair to throw him in to premier league battles week in week out without preparing him after injury, he needs to build his muscle structure and take part in training sessions, hell be grand soon enough.
 
He will have more chances. But if he would have been really top player, a best in Bundesliga or whatever, he would have taken this first chance.
The ability of a player has no correlation with whether they would take their first chance. that is absurd reasoning. Does that mean that Rashford is better than Silva? Many players take more than ONE GAME to show what they can do. It isn't a football trial. Look how many games Pogba has disappointed yet he gets picked over and over again. same with Zlatan
 
If our coaches really did have "doubts" then perhaps we need new coaches. They clearly aren't the best judge of a player.
 
If our coaches really did have "doubts" then perhaps we need new coaches. They clearly aren't the best judge of a player.
I think the article talks about previous coaches, LvG's. Nothing article as usual.
 
Feck that. Sounds like absolute garbage to me. Unable to cope with the physical demands? Not only has he only played about 60 minutes of football for us, he came from one of the most intense sides in Europe!

I agree. Mkhitaryan is as tall as Giggs and Kanchelskis who played in a far more physical EPL.
 
Pilib de Brun said Jose has not been impressed with his attitude towards his rehabilitation from injury.
One thing is for sure, he hasn't impressed at all in training. To be uninjured but not even make the squad tells you everything. He might need a special way of motivating to get the right intensity from him.
 
Stories today are not good. Looks like another di maria on our hands. I hope he proves all the shir sayers wrong and plays the next game.
 
During his time in Dortmund his biggest problem was his mentality. He is extremely sensitive and he puts a lot of pressure on himself. He starts to overthink things when he doesn’t perform, which holds him back.

It is important to remember that Dortmund is a great environment for players. They have a functional team and the club/fans/manager put a lot of trust in everyone. There are few public fall-outs and everyone is incredibly patient.

I have no doubt about his ability and workrate. The question is, can he handle Mourinho and the media. I almost hope, that his absence is down to physical problems/injuries. I don’t want to know what would be going on in his head, if he is fit and still can’t get into the team….he is not the kind of player who can deal with that….
 
During his time in Dortmund his biggest problem was his mentality. He is extremely sensitive and he puts a lot of pressure on himself. He starts to overthink things when he doesn’t perform, which holds him back.

It is important to remember that Dortmund is a great environment for players. They have a functional team and the club/fans/manager put a lot of trust in everyone. There are few public fall-outs and everyone is incredibly patient.

I have no doubt about his ability and workrate. The question is, can he handle Mourinho and the media. I almost hope, that his absence is down to physical problems/injuries. I don’t want to know what would be going on in his head, if he is fit and still can’t get into the team….he is not the kind of player who can deal with that….

Players like that need to be thrown in the deep end and cuddled until they start producing the goods. Else we might as well sell them.
 
Players like that need to be thrown in the deep end and cuddled until they start producing the goods. Else we might as well sell them.

Considering that he seems to be his biggest critic, he certainly doesn’t need a manager who confirms this feeling, because it would just further paralyze him. So I agree.
 
Considering that he seems to be his biggest critic, he certainly doesn’t need a manager who confirms this feeling, because it would just further paralyze him. So I agree.

Roberto Baggio was like that. He was absolutely lethal in a team were he felt loved and appreciated but his form would nosedive once he doesn't felt safe anymore.
 
43 pages and He has played 1 half of football this season. Its a vicious circle. "Don't play him hes not match fit yet", "He needs minutes to get match fit, so play him", "Not don't play him as he is not match fit yet" and so on and so forth...

I don't fear that he is not good enough, I fear we are getting in his way. There will always be a reason not to play him, we just have to bite the bullet at some point.
 
Can't see him playing against City, not unless he's a sub. Seems like Mourinho really took a disliking to him after that game for some reason. I know he was bad but Lingard was worse, very strange.

Perhaps he completely ignored his instructions.

It was before the City game.

Jose seemed to pick his starting 11 for the season against Everton which Mhiki never featured. He only got 2 minutes coming on for Mata at the Charity Shield. If we wanted to introduce him to the league then two friendlies against premiership opposition was the perfect time. Numerous reports came out about how Jose had been impressed with Lingard, which is fair enough. But even when Jesse got injured in the Community Shield, we replaced him with a different type of player in Mata.

It’s a strange one as on paper (I haven’t seen hardly anything of him) he’s a perfect Jose player. Also, when Jose knew he had the job he was seen at numerous Dortmund games. Clearly scouting the lad live and no doubt knew all about him.

I have read numerous accounts (not sure how accurate they are) that Mhiki is a sensitive soul and a bit of an introvert. I think this might be Jose’s issue with him. Jose seems to like the brash, confident, big personality who’d speak up. Zlatan and Pogba certainly fit that bill, as it appears so does Bailly. He had a squad full of these players at Inter with Zlatan, Etoo, Snjeider, Lucio, Samual, Anautovic, Ballotelli. His Chelsea squad with Terry, Drogba, Robben, Cole etc where all big personalities and obviously the Madrid squad was full of them.

I think Jose gets the best out of his players by having the whole squad constantly on competitive edge, which is why it can go wrong for him by pushing these types of players to their limits. Clearly some thrive off it. If a player is of a more timid nature I can see how Jose’s forthrightness might send him deeper into his shell.


The size of United wont help. Berbatov, another supremely talented footballer but a bit of a sensitive lad never really got to terms which the size and expectation at United.


Just an alternative take on the matter……….
 
If he does need to be comforted and assured, is it so bad to do that? If we get him playing well he could be a useful asset to us, why not tell him he's a good boy and give him a scratch behind the ears?
 
Discussing with a colleague at work whe reckons he read that this deal was already in place before Jose was appointed.

Hearsay really, so speculation

Jeez they should have asked Mou whether he wanted him or not. We cant keep on treating players like that
 
If he does need to be comforted and assured, is it so bad to do that? If we get him playing well he could be a useful asset to us, why not tell him he's a good boy and give him a scratch behind the ears?

No but it means we should never have signed him if it's true. His confidence issues were well known and obvious when he was at Dortmund.
 
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