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CM/DM, ST (if Ronaldo goes), RB, RW, ST (if Ronaldo stays)

This should be a list of priority signings until the end of the transfer window. If we bring in at least 2 players this would be a great window for us.
 
I think all 3 we have signed wouldnt have come here if we told them they would sit on the bench, especially in a wc year. They will all be starters. I think we will eventually get FDJ and Antony, but it might take another month or so. Its also feasible we do sign a RB and CB as well. We would let WB Telles and either Lindelof or Bailley go. No one said there is a cap on our transfer budget and Arnold himself said whether we spend 100 or 200 million... at the pub 'interview'.
 
I really like our business so far. If we can get De Jong over the line it will make a huge difference having someone of his quality. It's been a gaping hole since Carrick retired so it's about time it's being properly addressed.

The biggest weakness I see in the squad is RB, AWB and Dalot are shocking. In fairness Dalot has had a good preseason but relying on him producing over the course of the season is a massive risk. At this stage we're heavily constrained by our budget, but if we can find another bargain like Malacia for RB it would make a huge difference to our right flank and take some of the burden off Sancho.
 
I wonder: if - and it's a mighty big if - we make it into top four and spurs don't, we think we can tempt Kane next year. I'd love it but think it's a pipe dream. I was amazed he almost joined City because I thought he was one of those one-club men like David Beckham (one English club). My guess is he'll move to Europe before long. I really that Barca might move for him until they get themselves into as big a mess as United.

As for this year, there really is a dearth of top centre forwards - no wonder Lukaku moves every 20 minutes :devil:
Yeah I've had the same thoughts about Kane. This time next year, he will only have a year left on his contract. If he demands a move due to the scenario you describe, then I'm sure we would be in the mix with a £50-60m bid. In fact, I can't see anyone else who would be in for him. I'm not sure what Bayern's plans are regarding a Lewandowski replacement and Chelsea could do with a striker, but that would be a bold move for him to make. If not Kane, then maybe Martinez or Felix as alternatives.

It really is a ghost town out there right now. We will just have to suck it up with what we have I think. Although if there is a versatile forward out there who can compete for the right sided forward position, but also play as a number 9, then he would be a very useful pickup. I've seen Cody Gakpo mentioned as that type of player but I haven't seen anything of him to make a judgement.
 
I really like our business so far. If we can get De Jong over the line it will make a huge difference having someone of his quality. It's been a gaping hole since Carrick retired so it's about time it's being properly addressed.

The biggest weakness I see in the squad is RB, AWB and Dalot are shocking. In fairness Dalot has had a good preseason but relying on him producing over the course of the season is a massive risk. At this stage we're heavily constrained by our budget, but if we can find another bargain like Malacia for RB it would make a huge difference to our right flank and take some of the burden off Sancho.

Would imagine that’s the way to go for now. Someone solid but older, however the same thing goes for Dalot. I doubt he will sit on the bench in a World Cup year considering he’s on the cusp of the Portugal squad.

I guess we’ll see how much ETH rates some of the youngsters, as I can’t see us adding to the forward line unless Ronaldo does leave. There’s a good chance we might see Bruno or Eriksen go and play wider at times if that’s the case.
 
CM/DM, ST (if Ronaldo goes), RB, RW, ST (if Ronaldo stays)

This should be a list of priority signings until the end of the transfer window. If we bring in at least 2 players this would be a great window for us.

Agree with the priority / positions but I don't see a lot beyond FdJ unless Ronaldo / AWB leave for decent money.

Nowhere near enough. 3 or 4 quality signings needed.

No club in the world makes 7 first team signings a window, so /shrugs. You can't even do that on FM these days.
 
There's information about Bayern ready to ship Pavard or Upomecano if good offer arrives. I say Pavard is a good option for RB, we should try it.
 
Agree with the priority / positions but I don't see a lot beyond FdJ unless Ronaldo / AWB leave for decent money.



No club in the world makes 7 first team signings a window, so /shrugs. You can't even do that on FM these days.

At the same time not many clubs sell and lose as many as we have this season...
 
It's weird, I'm excited to see Eriksen, Martinez, Malacia plus ETH's style of play implemented.

But also feel we're still so short on quality in comparison to the top 6. A long way to go - even if FDJ joins (big if).
 
It's weird, I'm excited to see Eriksen, Martinez, Malacia plus ETH's style of play implemented.

But also feel we're still so short on quality in comparison to the top 6. A long way to go - even if FDJ joins (big if).

Midfield is where we need upgrading the most. Probably right back as well.

The other positions I feel we definitely weren't as bad as we looked last season. That was an outlier.

Most importantly, we need to build a TEAM.
 
I can’t say I’m overly impressed with window. Glad ETH has three players he actually wanted signed of course, but I still feel we are weak compared to the other top 6 clubs.

FDJ, I’m at the point where I couldn’t care less either way if he eventually joins or not. I’m really hoping we try to get another midfielder and forward in the mean time but as sales have been even worse, I can’t see us having the budget. That midfield even if FDJ joins is pretty bang average.

Will be interesting to see how the window ends on September 1st after we have played our fifth league game of the season. We can all pass final judgement then.
 
I can’t say I’m overly impressed with window. Glad ETH has three players he actually wanted signed of course, but I still feel we are weak compared to the other top 6 clubs.

FDJ, I’m at the point where I couldn’t care less either way if he eventually joins or not. I’m really hoping we try to get another midfielder and forward in the mean time but as sales have been even worse, I can’t see us having the budget. That midfield even if FDJ joins is pretty bang average.

Will be interesting to see how the window ends on September 1st after we have played our fifth league game of the season. We can all pass final judgement then.

Its been a huge let down for me especially when the media had said ten hag was going to prioritise midfield. I was hoping McFred become squad depth options from next season but it looks like they will get important minutes once more. Also our backline has ballooned. 4 left backs and 7 cbs and knowing us we would be lucky to sell 2 of that 11.
 
If we keep ronaldo and get De Jong in I’d be happy no need to give the manager more to get 4th. If he achieves that then yea loosen all the strings.
 
Midfield is where we need upgrading the most. Probably right back as well.

The other positions I feel we definitely weren't as bad as we looked last season. That was an outlier.

Most importantly, we need to build a TEAM.

Our forward options aren't exactly rosy either, especially if Ronaldo leaves.
 
Yeah I've had the same thoughts about Kane. This time next year, he will only have a year left on his contract. If he demands a move due to the scenario you describe, then I'm sure we would be in the mix with a £50-60m bid. In fact, I can't see anyone else who would be in for him. I'm not sure what Bayern's plans are regarding a Lewandowski replacement and Chelsea could do with a striker, but that would be a bold move for him to make. If not Kane, then maybe Martinez or Felix as alternatives.

It really is a ghost town out there right now. We will just have to suck it up with what we have I think. Although if there is a versatile forward out there who can compete for the right sided forward position, but also play as a number 9, then he would be a very useful pickup. I've seen Cody Gakpo mentioned as that type of player but I haven't seen anything of him to make a judgement.
Kane was name dropped by Bayern
 
I am quite surprised with rather positive comments on our transfer window. It doesn't seem to me we're solving the priority issues we have, just getting some players who I would call "an addition" to a team.
 
I'm still a little concerned that none of our signings have fixed our most pressing weak points (CM/DM, RB, CF, RW). I'm not convinced De Jong is happening, nor am I convinced we're signing a CF. So the thought of us starting the season with a McFred midfield and Martial or a moody Ronaldo leading the line, with Dalot and AWB as our RB options doesn't exactly instil me with huge amounts of confidence.
 
I'm still a little concerned that none of our signings have fixed our most pressing weak points (CM/DM, RB, CF, RW). I'm not convinced De Jong is happening, nor am I convinced we're signing a CF. So the thought of us starting the season with a McFred midfield and Martial or a moody Ronaldo leading the line, with Dalot and AWB as our RB options doesn't exactly instil me with huge amounts of confidence.
Would you rather we spent all the remaining budget on Dejong or go for multiple players that would cost less than him (example: Dumfries+Tielemans) to cover different positions?
 
I'm still a little concerned that none of our signings have fixed our most pressing weak points (CM/DM, RB, CF, RW). I'm not convinced De Jong is happening, nor am I convinced we're signing a CF. So the thought of us starting the season with a McFred midfield and Martial or a moody Ronaldo leading the line, with Dalot and AWB as our RB options doesn't exactly instil me with huge amounts of confidence.

Yeah I think most of us feel that way. It really depends also on what the club gave ETH as his season targets. Even with FDJ signed I’m thinking we are struggling for 4th, maybe with his coaching it will just about give us the edge we need. However I don’t think he is a miracle worker and will not be able to turn slow players fast or technically lacking ones into technically proficient ones. He obviously has a lot of faith in his ability but I’m hoping he is not as naive as he has sounded in a few press conferences when mentioning how this team finished second in 2021. That season was an anomaly. The exact same players and manager shit the bed last season, once other teams injury or management crisis were solved and crowds were back adding much more pressure.

I can’t see this Malacia starting but he does look an improvement on Telles. Martinez will need to start certainly, I just hope it’s not with captain fantastic. We really need Varane to stay fit but I’m just worried, as joked about many times on here, that Maguire has something in his contract that makes him a guaranteed starter if fit.

Right full back is a big worry for me, Dalot should be back up and AWB shipped out. As for the forward options I doubt Ronaldo would let himself down, never mind the fans or club if he was to stay. He would still give his all as his ego demands he will be top scorer/player at the club, in his mind.

I have always been a Martial fan, more so than Rashford as I do believe he is the better footballer when both on form. If he can get back to his confident best he will definitely score goals/same with Marcus - or they will be a massive let down once again. Lots of if, buts and maybes but the other five clubs have done better business in my opinion so I’m really hoping we make a few more signings that improve the first 11 before the window shuts.

McFred are my least favourite midfield combo since I have supported the club, I honestly don’t like either playing and when both do, I just despair!
 
I really like our business so far. If we can get De Jong over the line it will make a huge difference having someone of his quality. It's been a gaping hole since Carrick retired so it's about time it's being properly addressed.

The biggest weakness I see in the squad is RB, AWB and Dalot are shocking. In fairness Dalot has had a good preseason but relying on him producing over the course of the season is a massive risk. At this stage we're heavily constrained by our budget, but if we can find another bargain like Malacia for RB it would make a huge difference to our right flank and take some of the burden off Sancho.

Yeah the tricky bit is finding a bargain RB
 
It's weird, I'm excited to see Eriksen, Martinez, Malacia plus ETH's style of play implemented.

But also feel we're still so short on quality in comparison to the top 6. A long way to go - even if FDJ joins (big if).

Yeah I feel exactly the same
 
Our forward options aren't exactly rosy either, especially if Ronaldo leaves.

I'm not so worried as long as can stay healthy. If he stays great. If he leaves, it will be like when we got rid of RVN, which ironically allowed the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney to flourish.

Except its now Rashford, Martial and Sancho.

I'd also love to see our youth like Hannibal, Amad and Zidane get a look in. Hannibal is good enough.
 
When asked about our links to Dutch players:

I would like to sign English players because I think there is only one criterion and that’s quality in combination with the price. It looks like English players are quite expensive. It’s a fact you cannot deny. In the end, it’s about quality.

Fair point really.
 
So are those 3 starters for us? it’s great we’ve got some depth but as far as I can tell none of them are first 11 players.

I’m concerned we’re going to start the new season with the exact same 11 that finished the last.
 
So are those 3 starters for us? it’s great we’ve got some depth but as far as I can tell none of them are first 11 players.

I’m concerned we’re going to start the new season with the exact same 11 that finished the last.
I think Eriksen is going to get a lot more game time than some people here seem to think. I don't think ETH bought him to make up numbers. If we ever get FdJ, our midfield will look very different.

That said, I still think we have massive defensive frailties and not nearly enough firepower up front... We need a top quality, almost old-fashioned, centre forward. An RvP or RvN would give us a huge chance of making top four. Rashford and Martial do not
 
While there is still time to go, FDJ looks inevitable and I don't doubt we have other targets our business right now doesn't look spectacular on paper.

So far we've bought our third LB, a free transfer to fill minutes that would have gone to Mata / Lingard (although I do think Eriksen is fantastic business) and a seventh CB. If the transfer window were to shut right now only the most optimistic of fans would class that as anything less than a failure.

We have to trust the new manager and the new footballing structure, but they are leaving themselves open for a lot of criticism if we don't address some of our problem area's while also shifting some of our unwanted squad players.
 
Its been a huge let down for me especially when the media had said ten hag was going to prioritise midfield. I was hoping McFred become squad depth options from next season but it looks like they will get important minutes once more. Also our backline has ballooned. 4 left backs and 7 cbs and knowing us we would be lucky to sell 2 of that 11.
The fact that ETH seems to have been given sole responsibility for making transfer decisions shows that despite the changes in the roles above him there isn't really a structure to speak of. ETH seems like a good coach but it seems like he has more responsibility over transfers than he did at ajax despite now being at a much bigger club. It means that if he doesn't work out its so easy to see the club being back to square one and requiring another rebuild
 
If you were to poll our support pre window I think most would have said a CDM, CM, RW, FWD and RB were all essential. It's less than 3 weeks to our first PL game and we've filled 0 of these positions.

It's ok though because we beat Crystal Palace's B team.
 
This is the issue with regular manager changes with no DoF on board. The new coach will always be the good tolerant guy who's giving "every player a chance to prove" and starting from scratch. Accordingly every single first summer is pointless. If United had a working structure, the DoF would give EtH the analysis, saying "Look, Eric, we are cool, dont worry, you dont have to give AWB a new shot, or Martial a 10 chance. He is draining here for how many years now? We know our weaknesens, lets find a RB, CMs and ST that you approve for your tactics"
I am sick of the all the Jones's, Martials etc. and their countless chances to prove themselves...
 
I think Eriksen is going to get a lot more game time than some people here seem to think. I don't think ETH bought him to make up numbers. If we ever get FdJ, our midfield will look very different.

That said, I still think we have massive defensive frailties and not nearly enough firepower up front... We need a top quality, almost old-fashioned, centre forward. An RvP or RvN would give us a huge chance of making top four. Rashford and Martial do not

Yeah definitely still need a striker along with someone in that De Jong mould (looks mile away)
 
The team quality wise is still miles behind the competition. This is perhaps the first time in a multitude of years that the club has a coach who is reputable as being a good coach. However this incentive is not new to the league City, Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool all have excellent coaches and the biggest difference with the top three is the quality of their respective teams.

If we conclude this summer with what we have thus far it will not be the case of the manager lacking but rather the quality of the team because of the contrast with the league's strongest.

Antony and FDJ would give the impression of a decent summer window. The reality is we needed more midfield reinforcement before the departures of this window so FDJ is still not enough realistically.

Pre season is good but reality will hit hard when the league starts and Fred / Mctomminay are key figures for the season. This isn't to bash any performer but rather an objective assessment of the overall quality of the squad.
 
I think Eriksen is going to get a lot more game time than some people here seem to think. I don't think ETH bought him to make up numbers. If we ever get FdJ, our midfield will look very different.

That said, I still think we have massive defensive frailties and not nearly enough firepower up front... We need a top quality, almost old-fashioned, centre forward. An RvP or RvN would give us a huge chance of making top four. Rashford and Martial do not

Yeah I think he will get more as well, silky on the ball and got deadly delivery from set pieces too
 
This is the issue with regular manager changes with no DoF on board. The new coach will always be the good tolerant guy who's giving "every player a chance to prove" and starting from scratch. Accordingly every single first summer is pointless. If United had a working structure, the DoF would give EtH the analysis, saying "Look, Eric, we are cool, dont worry, you dont have to give AWB a new shot, or Martial a 10 chance. He is draining here for how many years now? We know our weaknesens, lets find a RB, CMs and ST that you approve for your tactics"
I am sick of the all the Jones's, Martials etc. and their countless chances to prove themselves...
ah yes, the DoF we've been promised for longer than some people here have been alive (well, maybe no quite that long). Still nothing. Again I say. it feels like new suits but same old working practices
 
It's weird, I'm excited to see Eriksen, Martinez, Malacia plus ETH's style of play implemented.

But also feel we're still so short on quality in comparison to the top 6. A long way to go - even if FDJ joins (big if).

Same feelings here, but I kind don't really care as long as ETH is implementing his system and getting United on the way to being a real team. If he gets backed over the next couple windows I will be fine on missing out on the likes of De Jong. I am going to super patient this year and just try to enjoy the football and the beginning of our new journey.
 
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