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Absolutely convinced anything else after him is completely dependent on sales
50m net spend so far with three additions
Our squad looks decent so far especially with some youth players doing well pre season and you would expect a majority of our players who were shit last season to improve with a set system
If we can get two or three more in, we're in a good position.
Our squad looks decent so far especially with some youth players doing well pre season and you would expect a majority of our players who were shit last season to improve with a set system
If we can get two or three more in, we're in a good position.
Think people here complain way too much.
Eriksen will play in CM for a lot of games, Wing for a few and AM when Bruno needs a rest.
Martinez is a solid starting CB that can also go into midfield if we need more protection there. He's the aggressive CB we need to break counters and his passing range is fantastic, which will help us play high and circulate the ball. We didn't need need Evra, but when he came in, it was clear that we actually did need him.
MMalacia is an athletic attacking full back, something we have needed. Shaw's inability to stay fitness and moments of awareness issues have hurt us since he came in, which is why Young played so much for us. Malacia represents his replacement imo, not a squad player, but also adds additional depth there for us, as Telles is not a good option.
We also don't know how Ten Haag views Dalot or Martial, which is critical to what we get moving forward. Ronaldo's future is also important too. De Jong is the x factor of this window. If we sign him or an alternative to him, we would have had a fantastic window. Aa our main issues would have been dealt with imo, which are, depth, dealing with counter attacks and building up from the back. Again, Ronaldo leaving will determine whether we need an attacker as Sancho is clearly on the right flank now. Any additional squad needs can be filled by our young players. This season can be used to assess If any of them can be used in the first team or squad. Elanga, Hannibal, Garner, Amad, Garnacho, Laird, Pellstri or Zidane. We've spent alot particularly on Amad. Rashford and Sancho are already guaranteed first team places, so we have room to test our youth in terms of depth. Our fans love the idea of giving youth a chance, so here it is. Some of them are already internationals, so let's do it
de Jong and replacement for Ronaldo, and this transfer window has become very descent; 6 or 7 of 10.
Problem is Utd think they only need one of RW/ST which unfortunately is scarily naive. Sounds like attack signings are far too dependent on what happens with Ronaldo.
I am also certain that bringing in a RB is hinging on being able to sell AWB, well realistically loan him somewhere.
Happy with our business so far. I imagine we'll get two more in.
At the end of the day, ETH is going to assess the squad this season. Players who can't play in his system will be replaced by players who can. It'll obviously take some time, and patience will be needed.
At the end of the day, ETH is going to assess the squad this season. Players who can't play in his system will be replaced by players who can. It'll obviously take some time, and patience will be needed.
Presume that doesn't include De Jong
There is no doubt we haven't resolved many of the issues in first XI (RB,DM,CM, RW,ST). I hope Erik's coaching can help negate some of these issues but lot to ask in his first season.
I can’t get excited until we buy at least one starting midfielder.
I have no issues with who we’ve signed so far. I can see the thinking with all of them.
We still need to address other areas otherwise it will be a failed window, however. A midfielder, forward and right back are crucial.
We still need to address other areas otherwise it will be a failed window, however. A midfielder, forward and right back are crucial.
So you thought we would buy seven new first xi players? Are people actually insane?
Not seven but needed at least four
How did you come up with 7? He mentioned 5 positions that were a priority this summer and we so far haven't addressed any of them.
You always have good opinions and I find myself agreeing.....
Credit where its due, we need more folk that can read between the lines with what's actually happening.
Just to address the positions you have listed:
Could be wrong, but I don't see us signing a right back. Think we might try and sign Timber next year for that role. De Jong is the DM and Eriksen the CM. In my opinion we could desperately do with a RW for competition, Antony or whoever. There isn't a top striker available, so it's a case of sticking with Ronaldo and Martial and then going big on one next year.
Then that assumes you would be perfectly happy going into the season with the CBs and LB we had.... In order to replace those two positions and the five mentioned would have required 7 first XI players. You can maybe make an argument against Malacia being a first XI LB if you want. However my opinion is that he expects him to take that position off Shaw, and based on current evidence I would not be surprised.
Also that assumes those seven "priority" position were the ones EtH sees as priority for this summer. My guess is his doesn't instead EtH saw a need for :
LB, CB, RB, DM, RW, ST
He knows we can't get a true ST this year, maybe figures we can't get the RB sorted right now. Eriksen helps alleviate the ST and AM position, by allowing EtH to play with Eriksen as a replacement for Ronaldo or Bruno, and at a push RW as a swap.
We waited a year for ruud. He broke his leg didn't he?
Man utd transfer problems are solved. Ralf as a hint the board had learned their lessons and even though everything didn’t work out….this appointment ironed out a lot of problems and got the club ready for a new season where even Martial is humbled enough to know his underperformance issues lie with him and not the club.
So far it is a complete disaster.
We got a LB to compete with the other 2 we already have. We got a short CB to compete with the other 6 we already have. We got a 30 year old AM with serious health issues to replace Pogba/Mata/Lings that we never knew where exactly they should play, if they should play.
Three months ago, nobody wanted any of those three guys. None of them was ever a priority.
We got a LB to compete with the other 2 we already have. We got a short CB to compete with the other 6 we already have. We got a 30 year old AM with serious health issues to replace Pogba/Mata/Lings that we never knew where exactly they should play, if they should play.
Three months ago, nobody wanted any of those three guys. None of them was ever a priority.
Bit harsh. Varane isn't going to play 45 games, Maguire seems to look more comfy in possession on the right and Eriksen was one of the better passing CMs in the league last year.
I think Malacia was down to Ten Hag not rating Telles at all, and he was always going to turn up his nose at a couple of our regulars.
De Jong, a RW, Cristiano staying (or a replacement who can score against low blocks because Martial and Rashford can't) and a competent RB option still needed.
I know… 55m and is he going to replace Maguire or Varane? Neither? Or play him at DM where he hasn’t played in 2 years in the Eredivise, which is 25% slower than the PL…. He may turn out to be captain and first name on the team sheet, and we’d all be delighted, but it isn’t like when Maguire came in and we knew he’d start right away…Fringe?
Agree with this.
I do rate Eriksen quite highly. But for the rest the order of priority for the summer should have been: DM, RW, CM, RB, Striker (given Ronaldo doesn't press and Martial is patchy). So far we've only gotten one of those (CM though arguably Eriksen is an AM that will compete with Bruno), and look like spending the rest of our budget on another CM. Big gaps in the team will remain.
Since we have made 3 signings, shouldn't this thread be locked and shut down? People are starting to use this thread as an avenue to "complain" that the signings are not enough, which they are already doing it in other threads. Its like a multiverse of complain threads.
It's got the potential to be a very solid window, although we need to sign a central midfielder hopefully called de Jong. After that the focus needs to be on getting some players out. Getting AWB and 2 central defenders Phil Jones plus one moved on would be great
Tbf I wanted Malacia to come in and replace Telles as one of the priority signings the first I heard of him (and then from the Europa Conference League games). Though main priority for me was 1 midfield signing, then a RW, then a RB. A younger, ball playing left footed CB was definitely a need as well as all of ours are around 30 years old and quite injury prone so I understand it. Eriksen is a free, obviously he's an excellent player and it remains to be seen how Ten Hag will use him. But a 10 wasn't of course a need and I figured we'd just give Donny a role to be the first midfield sub.
Frenkie for me would have been a dream signing back then, so the summer all hinges on him IMO. Either way, I'm optimistic for the season as Ten Hag will get a lot more out of what we have. A midfield of Eriksen, Bruno and one of Fred/McTominay or just Martinez being there is weird but might work with his coaching. Dalot i think might be decent enough with Ten Hag, not ideal maybe but he's young and does have a lot of good traits. The biggest issue for me would be lack of attacking depth, though if Ronaldo doesn't leave then it's not bad (Elanga 5th choice attacker, not counting Eriksen or Bruno joining front 3). It would feel like a missed opportunity for sure, but not one that I think would ruin us.
Three down....four to go. Big week ahead.
If we talk only upfront fees, and I am rounding up the figures here, we would have:
Ins:
Malacia for £13M
Eriksen for £0M
Martinez for £47M
De Jong for £63M (pending)
Total= £123M
Outs:
Pereira for £9M
So, the spending of this summer, assuming we only sign De Jong and no one else, the spending would be within the rumored budget of £120M available to Ten Hag this summer.
Even if the rumours about the budget aren't true, I still think the club should generate more money for transfers by selling unneeded players like Williams, Tuanzebe, Telles, Bailly & Jones, those players should at least generate around £40M - £50M, no more loans deals (unless with Buy Obligations).
I still think the team needs another versatile forward who can play as a ST and on the wings.
Ins:
Malacia for £13M
Eriksen for £0M
Martinez for £47M
De Jong for £63M (pending)
Total= £123M
Outs:
Pereira for £9M
So, the spending of this summer, assuming we only sign De Jong and no one else, the spending would be within the rumored budget of £120M available to Ten Hag this summer.
Even if the rumours about the budget aren't true, I still think the club should generate more money for transfers by selling unneeded players like Williams, Tuanzebe, Telles, Bailly & Jones, those players should at least generate around £40M - £50M, no more loans deals (unless with Buy Obligations).
I still think the team needs another versatile forward who can play as a ST and on the wings.
We had good window so far, need 1 CM and 1 more attacker for sure. Also we should work on outgoings, we have bloated squad and need some loans and sales.
CB was among the least priority position IMO but looks like EtH doesn't rate ball playing skills of our CBs. We quickly moved from Timber to Martinez and signed him.
CB was among the least priority position IMO but looks like EtH doesn't rate ball playing skills of our CBs. We quickly moved from Timber to Martinez and signed him.
First people were complaining about no signings and now people are complaining about signings.
So far so good so what...
We need to sign Ings.
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I wonder: if - and it's a mighty big if - we make it into top four and spurs don't, we think we can tempt Kane next year. I'd love it but think it's a pipe dream. I was amazed he almost joined City because I thought he was one of those one-club men like David Beckham (one English club). My guess is he'll move to Europe before long. I really that Barca might move for him until they get themselves into as big a mess as United.
As for this year, there really is a dearth of top centre forwards - no wonder Lukaku moves every 20 minutes
We got into this window with Fred and McT starting and it's the 18th of July, and this abomination of CM pairing is still our starting option. I think it's rather bad irrelevant of us buying a 60m second option CB, a LB and a CAM freebie.
The Sun claims the club has announced the signing of Martinez and I see his thread has closed. But United have done no such thing:
"Manchester United is delighted to announce the club has reached agreement with Ajax for the transfer of Argentine international defender Lisandro Martinez, subject to medical, to player terms being finalised, and to UK visa requirements."
I'm not saying it won't happen, and I think it's unusual (certainly in the past) for the club to make an announcement before all the details are finalised. But technically this is not a done deal. I'll see him as a United player when we get the cliched stock pic of him either wearing a United shirt or with a scarf round his neck (when will journalists come up with a new idea for pics: it's as old and tired as the chancellor holding his red box on Budget day)
"Manchester United is delighted to announce the club has reached agreement with Ajax for the transfer of Argentine international defender Lisandro Martinez, subject to medical, to player terms being finalised, and to UK visa requirements."
I'm not saying it won't happen, and I think it's unusual (certainly in the past) for the club to make an announcement before all the details are finalised. But technically this is not a done deal. I'll see him as a United player when we get the cliched stock pic of him either wearing a United shirt or with a scarf round his neck (when will journalists come up with a new idea for pics: it's as old and tired as the chancellor holding his red box on Budget day)
Probably Sun bollox but if true shows the new manager has the balls to insist he gets what he wants (and, of course, take the blame if it goes wrong)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/19229538/man-utd-transfer-torres-martinez-ten-hag/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/19229538/man-utd-transfer-torres-martinez-ten-hag/
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