Has political correctness actually gone mad?

The main topic that falls under this btw is immigration. Anyone that doesn't advocate porous open free borders is basically a nazi these days. Even when I discuss the topic and my view that it's not just about numbers, but also the knock-on effect thereafter to societies, schools, hospitals, etc etc I am branded a racist (despite being a person of colour from the UK)!

This is an example from today: http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...-pierces-blazing-row-with-caller-over-illega/
 
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If you aren't that is the worse username ever. Did you reject "Never Walk Alone" and "Liver Bird" on the basis that they weren't Liverpudlian enough?



Far from it. It is just stunning the range of openly racist and sexist opinions on here. Most of this stuff wasn't even debatable 20 years ago.



Well done. Have a biscuit.



A bit busy with the current one thanks.

Yes, too busy with your sad little life on the Internet. trying to bring other people down with your smug comments. It's easy to leave you alone to your pathetic little battles you have every day online, I just wanted you to know what a tit you come across as. Stop trying to be smart and bring others down and maybe just be nice every now and again. Just stop trying to bring people down and try to appear to be smarter than them, it's not befitting a mod, or any mature adult.

There's clearly something missing from your real life that makes you like this, I hope you find peace soon.
 
Yes, too busy with your sad little life on the Internet. trying to bring other people down with your smug comments. It's easy to leave you alone to your pathetic little battles you have every day online, I just wanted you to know what a tit you come across as. Stop trying to be smart and bring others down and maybe just be nice every now and again. Just stop trying to bring people down and try to appear to be smarter than them, it's not befitting a mod, or any mature adult.

There's clearly something missing from your real life that makes you like this, I hope you find peace soon.

Interesting that you think that it is pathetic to not ignore sexism and racism.

Most of the world's problems are caused by us just letting things cruise along. Global warming is the prime example with the human race fiddling as Rome burns (or melts). If you or anyone else thinks of me as a tit for my views I'm not at all bothered. Why would I be?

It is nothing to do with being smarter or bringing peoole down. It is do do with the threads in here recently where some have been wildly racist or sexist combined with an even more surprising widespread ignorance of and denial of institutional isms. This is the truly offensive occurance, but not to you who seemingly simply wants to protect these delicate flowers from having their feelings hurt.

Yes. Opposing sexism/racism means something is missing in my life. :lol:

And rather than just personally attack me because you don't like my manner and opinions why don't you actually debate and tell me why I'm wrong? Or do you simply prefer calling me a Fudd (the nicest definition of which is still simply name calling), Mongo (ironic word use from someone saying that I'm not nice) and the various other insults you have thrown around?
 
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Maybe she had really shitty time in Iran...

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And maybe she didn't like the experience which has focused her thoughts on the issue?
 
The main topic that falls under this btw is immigration. Anyone that doesn't advocate porous open free borders is basically a nazi these days. Even when I discuss the topic and my view that it's not just about numbers, but also the knock-on effect thereafter to societies, schools, hospitals, etc etc I am branded a racist (despite being a person of colour from the UK)!

This is an example from today: http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...-pierces-blazing-row-with-caller-over-illega/

I though you were from Hong Kong. Did I imagine that? Its happened before.
 
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The main topic that falls under this btw is immigration. Anyone that doesn't advocate porous open free borders is basically a nazi these days. Even when I discuss the topic and my view that it's not just about numbers, but also the knock-on effect thereafter to societies, schools, hospitals, etc etc I am branded a racist (despite being a person of colour from the UK)!

This is an example from today: http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...-pierces-blazing-row-with-caller-over-illega/
The caller was right, Pierce does use immigration as a smoke screen for the growing inequalities in this country caused by tax dodgers at the top end of the earning spectrum. Blaming migrants has long been one of Pierce's main themes though, why would we expect anything less from an editor of the Daily Mail.

Bizarre call to choose to make your point; Pierce is the one who loses his cool and tells the caller he's deluded for not blaming everything on the immigrants, nobody calls Pierce a racist or a nazi at all. The specific debate they are having is over illegal immigrants and homelessness, something that does not impact housing, welfare, schools or hospitals as the immigrants in question are under the radar and do not use any of them.

PS: Skin colour does not show on the internet but racism can exist in all people regardless of colour, it's to do with the ingrained ignorance and bigotry of the racist rather than something as superficial as melatonin levels.
 
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Tbh @Paz you're such a wum ('devil's advocate' as you frame it) I don't even know what any of your real positions are.

I've just taken your contributions as attempts to wind up the people that dont agree with you or to get attention. That may be unfair on you but it is what it is...
 
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I believe there are 2 broad explanations for the decline in happiness in the west (that has been seen in both men and women, btw)

The 1st one ("cultural") is summarised from 0-0:8:45 in this video, the 2nd ("material") is from 0:55:45 to 1:05:00.


Neither IMO are true by themselves, and that narrator himself says that he deliberately made them more conspiratorial to be more scary/appealing (the second is a parody of the 1st in a way).
But those are the 2 broad ways to understand changes in the west from the 70s to today: cultural - feminism, gay rights, etc has pit groups of people against each other, or, material - declining real wages and reduction of welfare state measures has made life (for westerners) more precarious. There is also a Marxist analysis that talks about alienation in the capitalist workplace, but I haven't read enough to be able to understand/explain that.


I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to get across with that video. The guy narrating it obviously has issues with capitalism, & is quite clearly not a fan of Donald Trump. But aside from trying to put a negative, leftist viewpoint on capitalism, what alternatives & solutions did he offer ? I could of course post any one of the numerous youtube video's out there which counter his claims. Or I could simply point to the fact that if capitalism is so bad then why are so many people in the world so keen on trying to get into countries such as the USA, which is built on a free market ideology ? I could also point to the fact that very few people with a strong socialist background don't seem that keen on moving to these countries that live under the 'utopian' conditions that they feel socialism has to offer. Surely that would be far easier than trying to change a system that has been successful implemented into a society for decades. However, seeing as I have a bit of time on my hands, I'll indulge you & offer my take on such things.

Firstly, let me say this. When you're young quite a lot of your opinions are based on what you're taught, & what you're told. But as you get older your viewpoint on things become formed on what you experience. Growing up in an inner city environment in a city that has strong socialist roots (Liverpool) it was only natural that my younger life was dominated by strong leftist thoughts & opinions. The oppressive capitalist pigs were the reason I had to leave school at 15 with no qualifications, & little opportunity of further education. Universities were only for the rich & privileged. I could have gone 2 ways I suppose. I could have spent my entire life wallowing in self-pity & pointing to others for my failure to make anything of myself. Or I could have opted for the option of grabbing some of the opportunities that came my way so that they would eventually help advance me up the social ladder. I went for the latter, & as a result I've lived a very good, & prosperous, life. & unlike the assumption your man makes on the video, I've never chased the dream/illusion of becoming rich. Myself, & many more like me, are highly contented with what we have, & what we've achieved, via a capitalist society. Over the years, based on my experiences, I've slowly gone from hard left to slightly right of moderate. My strongish conservative opinions are of my own making & not of those who tell me it's right.

So going back to the start of the video where he showed a 'typical' middle-class American family of the mid 50's. The white male went to work, whilst his white wife dutifully stayed at home to look after their 2 white kids. In work he unknowingly patronized women & ethnic minorities. But all-in-all he's seen as a good, all-round type of guy who formed the backbone of American society at that time. So let's use that as a starting point & try to assess where it all went (supposedly) wrong. The population of the USA has doubled since the mid 50's. The main contributory factors in that fact is immigration, & the foundation of strong family values as shown in aforementioned video. Men & women getting together, staying together, & producing offspring to help carry on building their great nation. Now as far as I'm concerned, it's not even a contentious point to highlight the fact that the family values of 50/60 years ago have declined dramatically, & as a result I feel that makes for a far unhappier society. But what makes it worse, is that the children who are brought up in non-conventional family surroundings are far more likely to be unhappy & so the cycle doesn't just keep going, it gets bigger. You only have to watch an episode of the Jeremy Kyle show to grab yourself a snapshot of western civilization. Angry people who struggle to see anyone else's viewpoint other than their own. People who cover their ears & shout others down because they're afraid they might hear the actual truth that maybe they themselves are the authors of the many misfortunes that blight their sad, pathetic, little lives.

So apart from immigration & the collapse of the strong family environment, what else has changed over the past 5 decades or so ? Well, we now live in a more multi-cultural society, which has opened up a whole new world of culture, especially for the older generation such as myself. Women now have a far bigger say in how society is run than they did back in the day when they were simply 'dutiful wives' looking after the kids & making sure their man's dinner was on the table when he came home. So what about men ? Have they changed that much ? Have we become more oppressive ? Is that why people in general are more unhappier now ? Are men - especially white men - unhappy that their dominant status is being challenged by women ? If so, why are women unhappy ? Isn't that what the feminist movement strives for ? Or could it be that people are unhappy because nature generated the male species as protectors & providers, & the female species as those who nurture & care, which has resulted in humanity going against it's basic instinct. I don't have all the answers, but I can give you some pointers as to possibly why we are where we are. How we turn things around is anyone's guess. That, I'm afraid, is a problem that the younger generations will have to solve. The one thing that won't solve it however, is conflict & division. Unfortunately, that is now growing like an insidous cancer in western civilization. & mark my words. There'll be another dominant civilization that will happily take over once ours is dead & gone.
 
Are they really going to get loads of lying pervy blokes going there? Outdoor pool must be freezing.

Who knows ?

I guess that's a basic difference between men and women that has still to be 'PC-ised' as I can't imagine too many men complaining if women-who-want-be-men-one-day were allowed in the mens' changing room.
 
Who knows ?

I guess that's a basic difference between men and women that has still to be 'PC-ised' as I can't imagine too many men complaining if women-who-want-be-men-one-day were allowed in the mens' changing room.
I you were a bloke pretending to be trans, would it be illegal if you got a hard on in the women's communal changing room?
 
Hopefully 2018 will be less PC.
 
Hopefully 2018 will be less PC.
Doubt it. Manchilds in America elected a bloke with the aim of destroying 'PC'. This has inevitably served to really remind those of us who are fond of 'PC' that we are a long way from victory and need to fight pretty determinedly.

EDIT - Once he's been replaced with a disabled black trans lesbian single mother, then it's the other side's turn.
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-42552755

I know we bemoan people losing their jobs over internet posts, but this one seems fair. Why would you do that?

edit: http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/03/chef-quits-receiving-death-threats-spiking-vegans-food-7200582/

Maybe not. Looks like she just got annoyed that one of them wanted cheese and there was an online misunderstanding. The way the BBC phrased it made it sound like she maliciously put animal product on something.

If there's one group of people you don't piss off it's vegans.
 
Even their salads suck. No cheese or chicken? What a rip off!
No kebab meat in their salads either, or pita breads. I mean, how can they even call it a proper salad without those things?