If you're so keen on combating racial & sexism issues why not get yourself over to somewhere like Iran or Afghanistan. You'll get 2 for the price of 1 in places like that. I'm sure a lot of the men over there will see the error of their misogynistic ways once you've explained to them where they're going wrong. Of course, you could always stay at home, take on board some of the stuff that counters your opinions, & moderate your extremist outlook on such matters. Who knows, you might even feel confident enough to challenge the modern feminist with a few home truths. It would end up something like this.....
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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If you're so keen on combating racial & sexism issues why not get yourself over to somewhere like Iran or Afghanistan. You'll get 2 for the price of 1 in places like that. I'm sure a lot of the men over there will see the error of their misogynistic ways once you've explained to them where they're going wrong. Of course, you could always stay at home, take on board some of the stuff that counters your opinions, & moderate your extremist outlook on such matters. Who knows, you might even feel confident enough to challenge the modern feminist with a few home truths. It would end up something like this.....
Wow, that's a big ask though. When it comes to happiness, I'd say the happiest period of my life was when I was a scruffy little kid growing up in the back streets of Liverpool. There was little in the way of social housing back then, so 13 of us (Nan, Granddad, Mum, Dad, plus aunties & uncles) all lived in a run-down 3 bedroom terraced house. There was no central heating, an outside toilet, & just the one tap. My wife & I now own our own 3 bedroom semi-detached house in a really nice part of suburbia. I've recently bought myself a brand new car. & we're looking forward to spending 2 weeks cruising around the Caribbean in the next few weeks. So as happy as I was some 50 odd years ago, losing everything we've worked for & going back to a more 'humble' existence would be very difficult indeed. I'm sure I speak for a lot of people on that score. Even the younger people who've only just started out on life's journey, can you imagine taking away a lot of the technology they seem to depend upon ? Western civilization would tear itself apart. Consumerism & capitalism has most of us in a vice-like grip unfortunately.
No, it means you've not at all read the paper you are citing. I am summarising that paper: they note a decline in *subjective* happiness that is contradicted by other statistics (like suicide) and by other subjective findings.
They then discuss 4 reasons why the drop might be happening. None of those reasons, or anything I wrote, imply what you have written in this post. I do not know where you are getting that from. I know most of us are posting in a football forum and including myself, often don't fully read what we are citing, but I don't think you'v ever opened that paper, nor have you even read my short post...amazing.
About the hypothesis that being part of the workforce is the cause of this decline: I think @Silva nailed it. There was only a short period in history when significant numbers of women were not working. That refers to a number of wives of financially comfortable men in the west during the late 19th and early-mid 20th century.
In feudalism, women were part of the peasantry and also did (very hard - no machines at all!) household labour. This continues in most 3rd world countries where poor women farmers have to at the very least walk miles to get water and wood and cook for their family, and usually have to do lot of work in the fields as well. During industrialisation, women joined the industrial labour force in large numbers, as can be seen from this in the US and this report from Manchester, both 19th century.
The overall default state for women over millenia has been (very hard) work. The exceptions were feudal queens and wives of nobels earlier, with industrialisation this expanded to wives of industrialists, and finally to the wives of upper(?) middle class men. For various reasons (second-wave feminism, declining real wages) this process stopped, and reversed, in the west.
So it would seem dubious to me that entering the workforce has caused some evolutionary switch to go off and make women unhappy.
Brazilian transgender player debuted in the top volleyball league. I'm all for people's rights and individual freedoms. Not sure whether the women from the opposing team have their rights though. Not sure what to think.
I wish we were living in a world where PC had won and the reaction against it wasn't a threat...because they are hilarious people
Funny how nazi-sympatizers (assuming the stuff i read on the topic is right) posts stuff about Norwegian culture... One of the many cultures the germans invaded.
On another note, just to share some local history.
There is a reason those of us from the far north of Norway put more trust in the Russians than the Americans for example. Under ww2 my hometown was the town where the Russians entered Norway and drove out the nazis. Thousands of russians (and 2-300 from the Norwegian army...) sacrificed their lives and left us alone once we had gotten our lives back from the nazis.
Sometimes have a hard time believing Peter is a real person and not a sock puppet designed to bring ridicule on the European alt-right. But apparently the dude does exist...
Jesus, help them Gordon Ramsey, you're their only hope!
I saw it linked on reddit, I don't have a twitter (or instagram) account. Is she famous or something?
Nvm, saw it just before posting.
You will enjoy this one - he's from Sweden, he left for UK and, and then UK for Norway. And then...
I think he's just basically trying to avoid ever working again...
MSM media? Main stream media media?
All men and women don't, though. Only about 10k per year get conscripted these days (out of about 60k I believe). He's likely just been asked to attend an evaluation where he's free to tell them he's not interested, though his views would likely mean he'd never get in even if he wanted to.
A guy I know who's in the Home Guard's rapid response force (the Home Guard is the reserve force, the rapid response is the "speial force" of the Home Guard) told me a guy in his unit got thrown out after liking some alt-right, anti-Islamic page on Facebook.
Yup. She has a bit of a big arse though.
Depends what you like I guess. Remarkable dimensions mind.
In the interest of #bothsides #centrism , I also saw this gem:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapH...forget_about_galaxy_brain_it_can_never_match/
Maybe she had really shitty time in Iran...
Apologies that my my response was in not in direct correlation to the points you made. However, the reason I brought the paper's existence to the debate was simply to back up my assertion that western women in general are not any happier with their respective lives than they were 30/40 years ago. But as someone who has lived through the first movement, & is still around today, I don't need the paper's findings to know that women are less happier than they were in my younger days. & yes I have read the document, so we could micro-analyze & discuss it until the cows come home, but my issues are with 3rd wave feminism & not something that is purely subjective & only gives us pointers as to the possible reasons for female unhappiness. But what I will say is this. Because the paper only deals with subjective well being, it discounts objective concepts such as health. If it were to include such matters I suspect we might get different findings. What we've seen over a similar time period is an obesity epidemic in western society. With that has come a massive increase in eating disorders such as anorexia. Whilst such conditions might affect both sexes, I don't think we need any detailed research to ascertain the fact that women are the main victims. They are generally more body sensitive, which in turn makes them more sensitive to criticism & ridicule about their size. So maybe this is another factor we need to consider & rubbish the notion that male oppression & privilege are central as to why a feminist movement still feels the need to exist in today's society.
A summary from the report:
Finally, the changes brought about through the women’s movement may have decreased women’s happiness. The increased opportunity to succeed in many dimensions may have led to an increased likelihood of believing that one’s life is not measuring up. Similarly, women may now compare their lives to a broader group, including men, and find their lives more likely to come up short in this assessment. Or women may simply find the complexity and increased pressure in their modern lives to have come at the cost of happiness.
Oh man, these poor unfortunate women and their human rights. The horror of it all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42481329
Government is going to start fining universities for no-platforming. I'm not really sure how, it's usually smalls groups within the university who no-platform people. Are they going to fine, say, the president of an ACS or European Society for not allowing UKIP speakers?
Government is going to start fining universities for no-platforming. I'm not really sure how, it's usually smalls groups within the university who no-platform people. Are they going to fine, say, the president of an ACS or European Society for not allowing UKIP speakers?
Logistics are never going to work but no-platforming as a practice has to be delegitimised. I completely understand why many think it is a good option given the kind of hate speech some can indulge in but when it comes to curbing any kind of freedom it is always better to err on the side of caution. Already no-platforming has been used (albeit in isolated cases) by groups which perceives a speaker arguing against their religion, believes in anyway. Once you accept no-platforming as a legitimate method of protest, you can never 100% ensure that you would be able to define wisely what kind of speakers and content should or should not trigger this kind of protest. It is impossible to stop someone from hijacking it for their own set of principles and actually shut down good debates and exchange of ideas. I live in a country where this exact thing has happened. Every group feels offended by something and feels entitled to demand a ban on the same since several precedents around the same has been set. It is a slipper slope and as a trade-off it is better to let some people be offended by vile folks rather than risk further censorship of any kind.
Lewis Hamilton in gender shaming hoohah.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...pologises-unacceptable-inappropriate-11755240
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...pologises-unacceptable-inappropriate-11755240
So my username tells you that I'm a scouser.
Lol, wrong again.
You are stuck in a permanent self-important feckwitt-scenario where only your opinion matters and you will judge people that you don't know.
I am a huge Man United fan from Scotland who just has an opinion, apologies.
Get a life.
You:
Me, earlier:
What you have quoted is indeed, one of the 4 reasons listed. Infact, I quoted this line in my post:
Finally, the changes brought about through the women’s movement may have decreased women’s happiness. The increased opportunity to succeed in many dimensions may have led to an increased likelihood of believing that one’s life is not measuring up.
The word men or fault does not appear directly or indirectly in this.
Further,
you:
the paper:
me, previous post:
you:
the paper:
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@redman5
I believe there are 2 broad explanations for the decline in happiness in the west (that has been seen in both men and women, btw)
The 1st one ("cultural") is summarised from 0-0:8:45 in this video, the 2nd ("material") is from 0:55:45 to 1:05:00.
Neither IMO are true by themselves, and that narrator himself says that he deliberately made them more conspiratorial to be more scary/appealing (the second is a parody of the 1st in a way).
But those are the 2 broad ways to understand changes in the west from the 70s to today: cultural - feminism, gay rights, etc has pit groups of people against each other, or, material - declining real wages and reduction of welfare state measures has made life (for westerners) more precarious. There is also a Marxist analysis that talks about alienation in the capitalist workplace, but I haven't read enough to be able to understand/explain that.
I believe there are 2 broad explanations for the decline in happiness in the west (that has been seen in both men and women, btw)
The 1st one ("cultural") is summarised from 0-0:8:45 in this video, the 2nd ("material") is from 0:55:45 to 1:05:00.
Neither IMO are true by themselves, and that narrator himself says that he deliberately made them more conspiratorial to be more scary/appealing (the second is a parody of the 1st in a way).
But those are the 2 broad ways to understand changes in the west from the 70s to today: cultural - feminism, gay rights, etc has pit groups of people against each other, or, material - declining real wages and reduction of welfare state measures has made life (for westerners) more precarious. There is also a Marxist analysis that talks about alienation in the capitalist workplace, but I haven't read enough to be able to understand/explain that.
I don't really have the energy to get into this fight over Christmas, but here's some good takes on why the government can go suck a fat one.
http://wonkhe.com/blogs/burning-books-on-boxing-day/
If you aren't that is the worse username ever. Did you reject "Never Walk Alone" and "Liver Bird" on the basis that they weren't Liverpudlian enough?
Far from it. It is just stunning the range of openly racist and sexist opinions on here. Most of this stuff wasn't even debatable 20 years ago.
Well done. Have a biscuit.
A bit busy with the current one thanks.
Not neccesarily. Like most men, me included, you probably just don't always think deeply enough about how you say things about sexism and women's rights. I'm sure you were trying to be nice and supportive. But women don't need our permission and we all tend to "grant" permission by mistake.
you just mistook my statement for being granting permission, maybe I did not wrote it properly.
But anyways just leave it, as at the end of the day, both you and me are on the same page that women has as much right as we, to do stuffs according to their will and choice, provided it is not harming society and environment.
I am not based in UK so don't care about this particular instance, it was more of a general take. This take by Tory Govt should not be a surprise though, it has always been the right wing who is ready to trample free speech.
https://www.standard.co.uk/stayingi...ter-is-rebranded-in-new-tv-show-a3727361.html
Genuinely not sure if this is a wind up or not.
Genuinely not sure if this is a wind up or not.
Not sure what a children's TV show being rebranded has to do with PC. It's not even the first time they rebranded it.
Was gonna post that. Fair enough. He probably shouldn’t have said what he said. All the hooplah about him “bullying” the kid is fecking mental though.
You don't think it's been sanitised beyond recognition then?
Why on earth did he post it online though? That's the real scummy part of the whole deal.
I also think you're a bit out of touch if you don't see any element of bullying there given it's a fecking toddler. Not sure why there would even be a debate about this story. He's a cnut, end of.
I guess it is in some ways inappropriate, but seems a massive storm in a teacup. I'm sure a hell of a lot of us deep down would find it weird for a three year boy to be wearing a princess dress.
Well yeah, putting it online was dumb. But 'bullying' is a tad strong. Doubt the kid has a clue what is going on.
Uncles have teased nephews for aeons. The reaction to that is completely over the top. However I think Lewis probably shouldn’t haven’t uploaded it for all of Twitter to see given the amount of followers he has. Don’t think the kid needs the hassle of seeing himself in a tutu when he’s older.