Has political correctness actually gone mad?

I love the caf, come for the political arguments, stay for the Latin lesson.
 
I feel like we've gotten to the point where complaining about political correctness has gone way further than political correctness itself. Seems some people will moan at even the slightest hint of acceptance or inclusiveness.
Google definitions show it as the state of being male or female. For the most part, definitions are pretty set in stone. We may just have to coin a new term in place of gender.
Historically, there have been many societies in which women could become men, or vice versa. In the Balkans, you had sworn virgins. They'd be women who took an irrevocable oath to live in celibacy, and would after that be allowed to live as a man and do manstuff, like smoking pipes, getting sloshed, talking to other men, owning a gun or being the head of a household.

In those societies, gender wasn't defined by what you had between your legs, gender defined what you were allowed to do. Being a woman meant giving birth to kids, raising them and cooking and whatever else, while being a man meant drinking and smoking tobacco, apparently.
 
I was recently told that all movies with male lead actors should be remade with the women in those roles, and only then can we truly say women are equal. I'm not good at holding my tongue, nor did I particularly want to, and said how stupid it was.
 
I was recently told that all movies with male lead actors should be remade with the women in those roles, and only then can we truly say women are equal. I'm not good at holding my tongue, nor did I particularly want to, and said how stupid it was.

Brokeback Mountain should be first. :D

JUST KIDDING

I am assuming the person who said this also wanted to see the female actors in all those original movies replaced by male actors. Otherwise what you are talking about is a bunch of movies that are just all female casts which would be a bit odd in many cases.

It would be weird for any film based on a real historical figure. I mean Abe Lincoln was a male so not sure what would be the point of having it be Abby Lincoln instead.
 
Brokeback Mountain should be first. :D

JUST KIDDING

I am assuming the person who said this also wanted to see the female actors in all those original movies replaced by male actors. Otherwise what you are talking about is a bunch of movies that are just all female casts which would be a bit odd in many cases.

It would be weird for any film based on a real historical figure. I mean Abe Lincoln was a male so not sure what would be the point of having it be Abby Lincoln instead.

You're being logical, so that'd be wrong. The internet is coming to life, and I've met more self-described feminists this year than ever before. It wouldn't bother me much if the opinions weren't so consistently stupid.
 
You're being logical, so that'd be wrong. The internet is coming to life, and I've met more self-described feminists this year than ever before. It wouldn't bother me much if the opinions weren't so consistently stupid.
Feminists, United fans... with most groups of people the loudest opinions are consistently stupid.
 
I was recently told that all movies with male lead actors should be remade with the women in those roles, and only then can we truly say women are equal. I'm not good at holding my tongue, nor did I particularly want to, and said how stupid it was.
Yeah, Rambo III with a female lead should be a huge step towards emancipation.
 
You're being logical, so that'd be wrong. The internet is coming to life, and I've met more self-described feminists this year than ever before. It wouldn't bother me much if the opinions weren't so consistently stupid.

So basically they want every movie that had a sex scene in it to become a movie with a lesbian sex scene in it. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Some of the sport movies could be fun. North Dallas Forty, Any Given Sunday for example, entire NFL teams of women players. Nothing wrong with that either.
 
I'd be up for seeing an all female Saving Private Ryan.

Julia Caesar and The Last Temptation of Christine would also be pretty good. Possibliities are endless.
 
I thought of putting it here because that question seems to go out of its way to avoid using "trigger" words like slave, captive...
 
I did wonder if replying with "You're" would have qualified as cyber bullying.

I think if you see the actual replies you'll be quite low down the list.

I also don't understand how looking at tweets = thought police - once you've typed and shared your thoughts, that defence is meaningless.
 
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I can't even make sense of that article...it reads like the transcript of some drunk old man muttering gibberish to himself just before he falls asleep in his armchair
 
as this was a framed field experiment in which individuals knew they were part of a study, there is potential for subject reactivity or scrutiny bias. Even though this was a familiar task for participants, it is possible that they behaved differently than they would in a real recruitment situation.
Yeah...
 
Wouldn't reactivity or scrutiny bias skew the results in the opposite direction? If you're conscious that your behaviour is being observed/analysed I'd have thought you'd be even more careful/rigorous than usual.
I wouldn't have thought so, no. I suspect it results in a desire to appear more progressive.

Hard to know, though. Would take some rather better conducted social science research than that to tell us.
 
I wouldn't have thought so, no. I suspect it results in a desire to appear more progressive.

Hard to know, though. Would take some rather better conducted social science research than that to tell us.

That's what I mean. They'll be more likely to choose the minority candidate, despite being blinded. Which would skew the results in the opposite direction to what was found

EDIT: Nope. Got that completely wrong. That would skew the results exactly in the way they were presented. Mind you, isn't that the whole point? People are biased in favour of selecting minorities. Whether that be a desire to be progressive or to be seen as progressive the end result is the same.
 
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No. You were right. I was wrong! See edit above.
If you say so. I'm tired!
Mind you, isn't that the whole point? People are biased in favour of selecting minorities. Whether that be a desire to be progressive or to be seen as progressive the end result is the same.
Only if sufficient scrutiny is applied to make those who desire to be seen to be progressive have to actually be so, to achieve that desire.

And then there's the "In particular, as participation in this study was voluntary, it is possible that it attracted participants who are more likely to support diversity and gender equality." part.
 
If you say so. I'm tired!
Only if sufficient scrutiny is applied to make those who desire to be seen to be progressive have to actually be so, to achieve that desire.

And then there's the "In particular, as participation in this study was voluntary, it is possible that it attracted participants who are more likely to support diversity and gender equality." part.

It does contradict the experiment which showed that all other things being equal, black-sounding names on CVs got worse outcomes than white-sounding names. I have no idea of the methodology of that study, sample size, or anything, so hooray for a rigorous internet debate.