No one can own culture I agree, also culture is constantly changing and is often supported heavily by other cultures who adopt them.
Rap is a good example of it.
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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Rap is a good example of it.
I don't know, no one does. That doesn't prevent us from trying to improve as a society.
I'm white as the driven snow, so those are not questions for me to answer. Instead, I'll refer you back to villain's informative posts on the issue. In addition, I'll add this by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar:
To not be completely useless, i'll at least add some words of my own: The impression I get is that the issue isn't so much with the individuals doing it (unless they're doing it specifically to look mixed race or black, or create some ambiguity around their ethnicity, so as to be able to pass as mixed race or black), but the culture perpetuating it.
On villain's point about beauty standards specifically, those are in large part driven by the media, and pretty much change from decade to decade. Those we (as a society) can change, well within our lifetimes.
Wait, so I can't go out looking dipped anymore? 
Since fecking when is the holocaust a widely debated and currently controversial issue?
Gina Peddy is a Nazi.
they made a bill that everything "controversial" (like racism, since these bills were written during the "critical race theory" culture war) needed to be discussed had to be taught from both sides.
(screenshot of the law)
Will they keep the original German title of the opposing perspective ?
Regarding the whole blackfishing thing, I mean, she's hardly "just got a tan" or "just wearing an item of clothing" ffs.
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Instagram has a lot to answer for.
Regarding the whole blackfishing thing, I mean, she's hardly "just got a tan" or "just wearing an item of clothing" ffs.
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Yeah, based on that second photo she’s permed her hair. Outrageous behaviour.
Regarding the whole blackfishing thing, I mean, she's hardly "just got a tan" or "just wearing an item of clothing" ffs.
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I think i'm too old to get worked up over something like that.
You need to evolve to the point where a pop star getting a perm and a trout pout fills you with rage.
EDIT: I use the word “star” in its loosest possible sense.
Are you honestly saying if you saw those second and third photos you wouldn't assume she was black/mixed race?
It's obviously done intentionally and the look she's going for.
I think it's weird as hell.
You think I'm filled with rage, or worked up in any way?
I just think its weird as feck.
I've never really been able to get worked up about fashion and celebrities.
Fair enough on people thinking darkening their skin is dodgy (well, extreme darkening) but it's so fecking stupid to think each race should have their own basket of hairstyles that no-one else can use.
Nothing wrong with her or Adele having cornrows/braids.
Nothing wrong with her or Adele having cornrows/braids.
I don’t think you’re filled with rage, no. I do think you seem more perplexed by a pop star changing her look than you need to be. She probably just had some stylist tell her she should try a more “urban” look and it progressed from there.
I've made like 5 posts on the topic. I'm not obsessing or losing sleep over it.
I just find it strange that, considering how PC the world is now, someone thinks portraying yourself as being a different race would be a good idea, or not offensive to people of that race.
We're Irish FFS, we lose our shit when Americans say St Pattys day or put on leprechaun costumes, imagine how we'd feel if Samual L Jackson dyed his hair red and started speaking with a thick West Kerry accent.
that would be greatBit random but reminds me of this.
Appropriation of accents is a whole other kettle of fish. Inner city English white kids have been trying to sound like yardies for ages.
He's the only guy to look cool in a kilt
And that little chin beard goatee hair thing. Why??Yup, that is actually despicable.
Suit trousers, shoes and a Liverpool shirt.
I've had it with these motherfeckin' schnakes on this motherfeckin' plane!
Out of interest, what race do you think she looks like?
I view being able to put aside pre-conceived notions (such as thinking this particular issue is some recently made up thing by people who want to dictate to others how to look and what to wear) and make an effort to actually understand the issue (especially when it's clear they've never done so before) as evolving, or at least attempting to. This was clearly outrageous of me, and for that I apologise.
You keep acting like you want to understand, but when you get explanations, you ignore them and just repeat the same idiocy over and over, so maybe the reason you take issue with it is that your incapable of evolving?
Might be a radical concept in online discourse but I try to do my best to understand alternative opinions before I can decide if I agree or disagree with them. If you consider this an effort to evolve then well done me, I guess.
Ironic that you need this spelled out to you in response to post where you accuse me of idiocy.
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Yet you've been taking sly digs at my choice of wording in describing exactly what it is you're claiming that you're trying to do. Maybe you could have tried a bit harder to understand what I was getting at?
You seem to think evolving involves other people coming around to your point of view. So you shouldn’t be too surprised when people with differing opinions find this hard to take seriously, as this puts you on a pedestal - “more evolved than thou”
In all seriousness though there has to be something off with a person's mental health if they think that it's okay to transform into a whole other race. Copying fashion and style is quite normal but when a person wants to adapt everything pertaining to a certain race then they're at a whole other level.
Or Maori? New Zealand is the antipode of Italy.
Those OAN folks, and generally most people on the right in America are really unhinged.
Calling the holocaust controversial. Understatement level over 9000.
Here's the relevant bit:
The bit in bold is key here. Understanding does not equal agreement. I believe my subsequent posts have also all centered on understanding. What prompted this was several posters coming in, after black posters had explained the issue in depth, and dismissing it out of hand, the most egregious of which displayed complete ignorance of the issue in doing so. As I've said, I consider someone setting aside any pre-conceived notions they might have about an issue, acknowledging their own ignorance, and trying to understand as evolving. Maybe that makes it sound much grander than it is, perhaps I could have referred to it as "being open-minded" or "not being a fecking asshole", but regardless, I never suggested that they had to agree with me or anyone else.
Tbh I think we will have to bring her over to b&q and get a dulux paint match done. Tuscan-terracotta is my guess.