Has political correctness actually gone mad?



Some of the comments are abhorrent, and the reporting is awful, but I think this story fits perfectly in to the discussion in this thread at the moment.


Poor fecker. Its probably not a stretch to say theres a connection between his physical condition and mental state. Either way it's no way to live. When does letting someone be who they want do them more harm than good?
 
Poor fecker. Its probably not a stretch to say theres a connection between his physical condition and mental state. Either way it's no way to live. When does letting someone be who they want do them more harm than good?
Yep. If you're a close friend or family member of this guy you try to intervene and offer help.
 


Some of the comments are abhorrent, and the reporting is awful, but I think this story fits perfectly in to the discussion in this thread at the moment.


That’s just heart breaking. He’s obviously got some sort of mental issues and just seems like someone who won’t ever find peace.
 

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What’s your own position on that?

As long as he's happy and not harming anyone why should it bother me? However, I dont think he is happy and personally I think it's worrying with all the body modification surgery like the full on nipple removal. I'd be worried it's a mental illness rather than an informed personal choice that's dictated by inner knowledge of knowing something is wrong and not feeling comfortable or fitting in anywhere else or with anyone else.

His poor friends and family must be worried sick. I'd be interested to hear their thoughts.
 
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As long as he's happy and not harming anyone why should it bother me? However, I dont think he is happy and personally I think it's worrying with all the body modification surgery like the full on nipple removal. I'd be worried it's a mental illness rather than an informed personal choice that's dictated by inner knowledge of knowing something is wrong and not feeling comfortable or fitting in anywhere else or with anyone else.

His poor friends and family must be worried sick. I'd be interested to hear their thoughts.
He must have found a weird surgeon as well. 'I'd like you to remove my nipples', 'alright then, two thousand quid please'.
 
I very much got the sarcasm. It was just that really bad kind of sarcasm that was drawing equivalance between two entirely non-equivocal things..



Which bit is the half bit?



Which part of this particular story has struck you as hypocritical or misappropriated? Sarcasm or not, you seem very annoyed by it ... but I can’t for the life of me work out why? Or how anything in the article you posted speaks to that .... aside from the headline and the picture, of course. But then I’d never be so gauche as to assume you posted it on the strength of them alone, without deining to read it first? That would be a cynical take, and I hate being cynical. I can’t help it sometimes. Perhaps it’s too much time spent learning early 21st century bullshit?

So many words to make so little a point. Might be worth you looking at some videos or articles of cultural misappropriation, particularly at University. Might help you understand, as you appear to be struggling to comprehend
 
So many words to make so little a point. Might be worth you looking at some videos or articles of cultural misappropriation, particularly at University. Might help you understand, as you appear to be struggling to comprehend
I'm curious, what's really driving you in these threads? You seem to have a bit of a persecution/victim complex... Not quite like the others who argue because they like to or, play devils advocate. There's a bit of edge to it...
 
I'm curious, what's really driving you in these threads? You seem to have a bit of a persecution/victim complex... Not quite like the others who argue because they like to or, play devils advocate. There's a bit of edge to it...

I like to address areas of hypocrisy and double standards, particular around areas of race/ ethnicity. There is enough crap in this world to divide human beings, I don't like it when something as inherent as skin colour (which is no different from eye or hair colour, feet size or height) is used as a basis to break down human fellowship
 
Tell us what you’re really angry about, dude.

If you read between the lines (and he makes it quite easy to do so) of his posts in the racism thread, it’s quite easy to see what he’s really angry about.
 
I like to address areas of hypocrisy and double standards, particular around areas of race/ ethnicity. There is enough crap in this world to divide human beings, I don't like it when something as inherent as skin colour (which is no different from eye or hair colour, feet size or height) is used as a basis to break down human fellowship
Can you give examples?
Bit of a broad question, you can look through my posts to see my standpoint(s)
That's why I asked, I don't want to jump to conclusions. I'd rather you just explain it yourself... You don't have to if you don't want to of course.
 
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I like to address areas of hypocrisy and double standards, particular around areas of race/ ethnicity. There is enough crap in this world to divide human beings, I don't like it when something as inherent as skin colour (which is no different from eye or hair colour, feet size or height) is used as a basis to break down human fellowship

It is different from eye colour or hair colour though. No one is discriminated against for those traits. Whereas people are discriminated against based on their skin colour.
 
It is different from eye colour or hair colour though. No one is discriminated against for those traits. Whereas people are discriminated against based on their skin colour.

Yes. That is a fact

My point is that skin color should not matter, in the same way eye and hair does not matter
 
@niMic do we have a word in Norwegian for gender? Kjønn is asked when wondering about the sex, so I find it hard to follow conversations when I can't translate it in my head properly.

That or I just forgot, just woke up after all. :P

That's a really good question, and I'm trying to think of one. I think we possible just use kjønn for both, specifying biologisk kjønn (biological sex/gender) or kjønnsidentitet (gender identity) when it's not obvious from context?
 
That's a really good question, and I'm trying to think of one. I think we possible just use kjønn for both, specifying biological gender (biologisk kjønn) or gender identity (kjønnsidentitet) when it's not obvious from context?
Yeah, kjønn is definitely used for both now that you mention it, with the odd changes to be specific when we want to be very specific.
I think the lack of distinction in our language for general use is why Norwegians initially struggle with getting our heads around gender and sex being different things. I know I needed to read a few posts before understanding what people were talking about. :p
 
I don't know about 'realness', but the social sciences are a lot of hokum generally. All of science has an issue with reproducibility, but if you look at social science studies that problem becomes so massive you might as well call it pie in the sky guesswork, or better yet that any conclusions were probably reached by consultation with a Ouija board. That's before you get to the many journals that would fall under the umbrella of social science which are just circle jerks of fatuous opinions without even an attempt at credible research to support them.

Exactly, it's not an all or nothing thing. It's as nuanced as any other political debate point that everybody loves to be polarised about. It's not unreasonable to say that gender might partially be a social construct (nurture). That doesn't mean there aren't hugely significant hormonal and genetic components (nature).

It's not like the hard sciences are immune to issues of reproducibility, pie in the sky guesswork or circle-jerky journals. There are plenty of scientists out there who don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, for example, and many more who were sowing doubt about issues such as the dangers of smoking tobacco. And then there's Andrew Wakefield, who managed to get published in Lancet, of all places, and whose "work" has done so much damage. Additionally, every field has low quality journals and paper mills. To judge the entire field on the back of those is pointless.

I'm not saying the hard sciences and the social sciences are the same, but I am saying that to call them "a lot of hokum" is an opinion lacking any kind of insight or reflection.
 
Spotting sarcasm isn't your strong point it seems, perhaps too much time spent learning mid 1960s coastal Californian dialect (unless you originate from there, that could be considered cultural misappropriation)

Naw, Californians never, and I mean never type "dude".
'Dude' is an unconscious spoken addition to sentences that serves the spoken use of pauses like 'hmm', 'uh' or mild profanity like 'shit'. Californians don't use dude as a noun in sentences like "look at that dude over there" (not Californian). It would be more like "dud' , look at that guy over there". Most also don't consciously realize how often it creeps into speech.
 
Naw, Californians never, and I mean never type "dude".
'Dude' is an unconscious spoken addition to sentences that serves the spoken use of pauses like 'hmm', 'uh' or mild profanity like 'shit'. Californians don't use dude as a noun in sentences like "look at that dude over there" (not Californian). It would be more like "dud' , look at that guy over there". Most also don't consciously realize how often it creeps into speech.

Everyday is a school day :-)
 
I don't know about 'realness', but the social sciences are a lot of hokum generally. All of science has an issue with reproducibility, but if you look at social science studies that problem becomes so massive you might as well call it pie in the sky guesswork, or better yet that any conclusions were probably reached by consultation with a Ouija board. That's before you get to the many journals that would fall under the umbrella of social science which are just circle jerks of fatuous opinions without even an attempt at credible research to support them.

Exactly, it's not an all or nothing thing. It's as nuanced as any other political debate point that everybody loves to be polarised about. It's not unreasonable to say that gender might partially be a social construct (nurture). That doesn't mean there aren't hugely significant hormonal and genetic components (nature).
Might be better to simply accept you haven't a clue about the social sciences, which you clearly haven't.
 
Yes. That is a fact

My point is that skin color should not matter, in the same way eye and hair does not matter
It shouldn't, but it does.

Are you one of those people who says they don't see skin colour?
 
It shouldn't, but it does.

Are you one of those people who says they don't see skin colour?

No. But I try and treat people as individuals. I also don't burden them with the history of people who shared s similar colour of skin as them, because that's racism

What about yourself?
 
Take it you've elected not to give examples to illustrate your points then @Bola? Or maybe you missed my post?
 
Naw, Californians never, and I mean never type "dude".
'Dude' is an unconscious spoken addition to sentences that serves the spoken use of pauses like 'hmm', 'uh' or mild profanity like 'shit'. Californians don't use dude as a noun in sentences like "look at that dude over there" (not Californian). It would be more like "dud' , look at that guy over there". Most also don't consciously realize how often it creeps into speech.

Typing, maybe I’m with you.

Plenty of Californians would say;

“Some dude cut me off and ran a red light”
“Some dude at the store tried to charge me twice”
“A dude a work knows an MMA fighter”
“Some dude asked me if I wanted to buy Coke in the bathroom”

It’s a descriptor in the same way that English people use ‘bloke’, ‘geezer’ or ‘fella’.
 
Typing, maybe I’m with you.

Plenty of Californians would say;

“Some dude cut me off and ran a red light”
“Some dude at the store tried to charge me twice”
“A dude a work knows an MMA fighter”
“Some dude asked me if I wanted to buy Coke in the bathroom”

It’s a descriptor in the same way that English people use ‘bloke’, ‘geezer’ or ‘fella’.

No, I have to disagree there. It doesn't work quite the same way as those Brit words at all but I can understand why people that didn't live in So Cal sub-cultures might think that.

"Kid" in New York 80s-90s was more like a straight analogy to bloke or geezer or fella from the UK. "Yo" in New York 80s-90s slang serves more the function the way dude does in 80s-90s So Cal slang. Most of the time when Southern Californians start something with "dude" its not like "bloke" or "geezer" its more like "Yo".

Here listen to how this guy uses dude twice at the start. It illustrates what I mean
 
Yes. To your vague question
The examples were to explain what you meant by your post. If you don't want to provide some then that's fine by me, but I never asked you a vague question. Simply a request asking for examples of what you suggested in this post:
I like to address areas of hypocrisy and double standards, particular around areas of race/ ethnicity. There is enough crap in this world to divide human beings, I don't like it when something as inherent as skin colour (which is no different from eye or hair colour, feet size or height) is used as a basis to break down human fellowship

But clearly, this isn't going anywhere...
 
Because cultural misappropriation is the biggest ill in the world apparently

Cultural misappropriation, as with racism, is a much bigger problem when it affects groups who suffer from active bias and discrimination as it reinforces existing disempowerment amongst other things.
 
New female deadlift record in Britain. Well done I must say, hardly even looks heavy.

 
Cultural misappropriation, as with racism, is a much bigger problem when it affects groups who suffer from active bias and discrimination as it reinforces existing disempowerment amongst other things.

Straight out of the political correctness textbook
 
Cultural misappropriation, as with racism, is a much bigger problem when it affects groups who suffer from active bias and discrimination as it reinforces existing disempowerment amongst other things.
More often than not it's white liberals being offended in other people's place. In some weird way of sort of dictating what minorities should feel offended about. It's so fecking weird because the average guy doesn't give two fecks if someone braids their hair, wears a sombrero or traditional japanese clothing.