I agree with everything else you said. I think a show of that nature written by a white person would get destroyed on social media. Brooklyn 9-9, BM and New Girl are pretty "safe" shows in terms of character depictions and that's fine, I think all 3 of those shows are good. But I don't think in this day and age, those shows that try to push the boundaries, can take those types of risks anymore. Breaking bad got quite a bit of criticism for it's depiction of certain characters and some even suggested it was pushing a white supremacy narrative. And maybe that's fine, maybe we should be more critical of the types of characters and shows we put on TV and creators have to keep this in mind, maybe just a sign of the times we are living in.
Then I’m not sure what it is you’re asking?
You asked whether diverse casts can make shows that don’t center around stereotypes and I gave you a few of some of the most popular and highly rated shows in recent times.
I thought that’s what you were asking, but it appears you’re trying to insist that stereotypes are necessary to push controversial storylines, and that should be allowed?
I’m not sure why that signals a ‘sign of the times’ as far as I can tell, the quality of tv shows is higher than it’s been in a long time, and a lot of the highly rated shows have more diverse characters.
If this is a sign of the times, then I’m failing to see the problem.
I’ve never heard of that breaking bad narrative. I’m sure there are some who thought that, but this is a symptom that’s common in this thread - just because there are a few hundred, even a few thousand opinions that sound ridiculous - it doesn’t dictate the popular opinion.
What am I doing? I never claimed to be a defender of minorities. There's very little I can do.
That said, I think people who fight such committed campaigns over minor shit like a stereotype in a cartoon, actually do more harm than good. It just entrenches people's view of the left as rabid fun police. Was this a battle worth fighting? I guess to him it was, but I imagine it will be used as an example of PC gone mad for a good while. And an example that a lot of people will probably view as reasonable.
I dunno, to me it just seems like unnecessary fuel to the fire. A guy with a silly accent in a silly cartoon filled with similar stereotypes? I don't get the need for the outrage. Like I've said numerous times, I personally do not care about the removal of the character, I don't even watch the show. I just see examples of this across the internet and how people react to it and use it, and think that sometimes people need to pick the right battles.
You implied that everyone is wasting their time complaining about Apu (I don’t think anyone in here was, but still) and that that time could be better spent on defending minorities, right?
So by your logic, you could also defend minorities rather than complaining about the people who are complaining about Apu, too, right?
If you think the problem with Apu does more harm than good, for minorities, while actively not doing anything for minorities then I have to question exactly what you expect minorities to do? Or how your position helps anyone, except your own insistence that minorities should just accept it, because it’s better than being outwardly called a slur, or whatever you’ve decided is the ‘right’ battle that minorities should engage in.
You want us to accept stereotypes, fight ‘genuine persecution’ and not do anything that could dare ‘add fuel to the flame’ for the type of people who insist minorities should pick their battles, while actively not helping those same minorities fight those battles because they insist they are not a defender of minorities.
