My concern is that neither him of Lindelof are lightening quick, usually 1 of the center backs should be
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I wasn't even laughing when I typed it out either.
that's a terrible analogy.We play with a deep backline as it suits de Gea's style, so wouldn't be end of the world I suppose.
He makes mistakes, just like Maguire and Keane do. You just dont watch their teams very often so it seems like Jones makes more. They all made a bunch of mistakes last season
You have no idea how much I do or don't watch football.
Every centre back makes mistakes, you don't really have a point, just a strange tangent.
Just tell Ed to get his wallet out - 90m should get it done 
I guess that is a matter of opinion - most fans would think Magurie would be an improvement
Do you watch each United game?
Do you watch each Leicester game?
I believe that you are a United fan and watch a lot more United games than Leicester games
I think we should be looking at younger CB's than Maguire. It seems to be ok for other areas of the pitch. A good young one could go on to be best in world in a couple of years.
I do watch a of Leicester matches, couldn't I ask you the same questions?
This is getting tediously off topic, have a good day mate.
It’s really not - especially as I’m a property developer.
Comparing Maguire to a transfer 18 months ago is nonsensical - inflation, scarcity and improvements in the player make it a pointless comparison.
This transfer may be settled at 75 million plus 5 million in add on type deal since we seem committed to it, and that might not be a bad deal at all.
It'll sort out our defence for the next five years at least and that's invaluable. A solid defence would also reduce the stress on our attack and nobody would bother too much about the price about an year from now.
We've achieved nothing over the past half a decade by either penny pinching or going all out for has been's in our transfer policy. So let's see how this new approach pans out.
Selling the likes of Jones, Bailey, Rojo and darmian would also be a good step forward in reducing mediocrity of our defence and help sort out this critical area for quite a while to come.
It'll sort out our defence for the next five years at least and that's invaluable. A solid defence would also reduce the stress on our attack and nobody would bother too much about the price about an year from now.
We've achieved nothing over the past half a decade by either penny pinching or going all out for has been's in our transfer policy. So let's see how this new approach pans out.
Selling the likes of Jones, Bailey, Rojo and darmian would also be a good step forward in reducing mediocrity of our defence and help sort out this critical area for quite a while to come.
Yes, I watch more United matches and I factor that into my thinking. At the very least I have watched highlights of their matches, seeing where the goals they have condeded have come from. Therefore I've seen a lot of the times he has made a mistake that led to a goal.
Earlier on in the Maguire threads people were shitting on Maguire's form this season, making fun of him for making mistakes. I would defend him and point out where I think he has made mistakes and where he wasn't so much at fault or was let down by teammates. I'm not arguing that he only makes mistakes, only that he made some last season and so did Jones. Both made some cock ups and had other games where they did well. I'd also say Maguire is obviously better than Jones.
However, we were talking about Jones and Keane. Keane also made some mistakes and I dont think he's significantly better than Jones.
Funny how I don´t think so. Still feel he is the better defender than Lindelöf or any of the rest of the lot.
Wow, I'm a software developer, if I was to make any sort of analogy to do with computers I guess it would be a good one cause that's my specialist field?
Do you think VVD would've cost Liverpool more now than 18 months ago, given he was a world record fee and would still, at £75m, be a world record fee today?
I mean the market was already insane back then, it's not like the last 18 months have been anything like the previous 12 months were in terms of inflation.
Together.
Wolves and Everton didn't have Wes bloody Morgan as a starting CB for most of the season.
This is a myth. Diop who we tried to buy hardly had any PL experience, Laporte again never played in PL before, Blind also never played in PL before but settled comfortably. Middle table and lower middle table clubs constantly sign CBs who have no prior PL experience. The important thing is to get the correct talent through scouting and give them proper coaching. We cannot have another season of constantly rotating CBs, we need to make partnerships happen. We are not competing for any titles, next two seasons should all be about building the correct platform.
I'm a bit concerned. Maguire is clearly an upgrade to our defense, but we have so many players in that position that will cause stress in the squad.
Sell/release/shoot Bailly, Jones and Rojo then that’s that problem easily solved. Going into next season with Maguire, Lindelof, Smalling and Tuanzebe as our centre back options with a youngster or two thrown in for cup games works for me.
Ha, our club being able to sell someone. Good one.
Yeah, I can't think of a particularly good argument for retaining any of our current pool of CBs, especially Jones & Rojo, send them out on a free transfer if need be, but just get rid of them.
Well clearly a few of them are not good enough and have had their chances
It would be funny if we leaked we bid for him to proper throw everyone off the scent and then, boom. De Ligt, announced in a blaze of glory, with Ed giving the finger to everyone like Maradona vs Nigeria.
trust me when you have to watch them there is a huge difference, Evens looks like Baresi in comparison to Craptain Morgan
I would too but then I'd have most of the squad up for sale personally!
Deligt is gone mate.
Who are these other players? Everyone is a risk ... Lindelof and Bailly have been a third of the Maguire's potential price and the risk we have taken is that they are not ready to come in and significantly improve the defence, which is what has happened.
I didn't say he was a world class defender. Was referencing what was said in the post I was reply.
Prospects like Lindelof and Bailly who everyone has been grumbling about while they adjust to English football at the expense of our team/have bodies that can't cope with the demands of top flight football?
In the last few days of the window, the FA should allow clubs to have the equivalent of a car boot sale. Pile the unwanted players into a bus, park it in a field, and let the dealing begin for rock-bottom prices.
It's fine you say that and I admire your attempt at patience but most don't have that as can be seen by how quickly people write players off, such as Lindelof.
Or a swinger's party, where everyone chucks their contracts into a bowl, which is then passed around until everyone is randomly selected...
Or a swinger's party, where everyone chucks their contracts into a bowl, which is then passed around until everyone is randomly selected...
Is that what they do at a swinger's party? Inquiring minds wish to know.
Can't see other way to get rid of them unless we release them or pay part of their wages. No one seems to want to hire us any player whatsoever
I know. We really need to make up a solution in order to fix this issue that is clearly affecting our squad and finances.
75m + 5m in add-ons and he is a United player. Whether that would be a good transfer is another question.
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