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Not happy at all imo. Defensively very overrated, he's like Van djik on the ball but without the actual defensive ability. Could very well turn out to be another Bailly.

What annoys me more though is that £70m should be going towards players like Sancho to upgrade our dire attack. That our front line next season will likely be Martial - Rashford - Lingard again will be the source of our troubles, not our backline, as it has been for the last 2-3 seasons.
 
Not whatsoever. I’d be really happy with us getting Maguire, and I’m not going to cry because we didn’t get him last year. Mistakes were made, and hopefully we have learnt from that. Based on your logic the board can’t win really.

They have many years of mistakes to make up for. I'm sorry, but that's the way I look at it.
 
Not happy at all imo. Defensively very overrated, he's like Van djik on the ball but without the actual defensive ability. Could very well turn out to be another Bailly.

What annoys me more though is that £70m should be going towards players like Sancho to upgrade our dire attack. That our front line next season will likely be Martial - Rashford - Lingard again will be the source of our troubles, not our backline, as it has been for the last 2-3 seasons.
Sancho wants CL football. We can't change unattainable targets all summer.
 
Maguire for £70m is such an uninspiring option. He's slow & struggles when pressed. Surely we can do better? He's okay but i doubt he can become one of the best, so why would we spend so much on him to still be looking for a better defender in the future?

I'd rather us wait until next year if the alternative is signing Maguire for that amount.
 
Because all your other options have never made a mistake in their career? Picking out a couple of goals as if they prove a point is laughable.
He makes mistakes regularly. Just have a look through last season for Lecister and he is found out all the time.

He is no better than Smalling,Jones and Bailly.
 
What is the point of having shed loads of money if you don’t use it? Does he make us better? Yes? Ok then buy him. I’m tired of being shite
 
Maguire would immediately be our best CB if signed. I feel the criticism of his ability in this thread is harsh. There is no one out there as good as VVD for the price Liverpool paid, so that comparison is a non starter.

He's good on the ball, good in the air, powerful and reads the game well. Perhaps it's just unfashionable to praise him because he's English and plays for a mid-table side.

What other high class CBs have we been linked with? Varane isn't coming, Koulibaly isn't coming and Skriniar isn't coming. Umtiti is supposedly a liability due to his knees and De Ligt appears to be going elsewhere. It's not as if we are blessed with great choice.

I'd be interested to know who people think we should be signing at CB and what makes them better than Maguire is?
 
£120M is a lot for Maguire and AWB but it's 2 positions that are suddenly sorted and won't need worrying about again for a long time.
 
They have many years of mistakes to make up for. I'm sorry, but that's the way I look at it.
Fair enough mate. I agree they have been very poor but sometimes you just have to hope for the best. I can’t see any big changes at board level on the horizon, but I do feel like our approach has started to improve in terms of transfer policy. Time will tell.
 
That would be a dream come true..

The concern is if we get Maguire that we are stockpiling CBs. We need to be far more ruthless with getting rid of players that play 3-5 games a year and who get paid £70k a week (and probably more). Darmian, Rojo need to be sold asap. Arguments could be made for Jones as well.
 
Wait for him to move to Leicester. Wait for his price to go up even more at Leciester. Then sign him a year after that. Genius.
Haram always the first to come and defend Mourinho and his decisions
 
no, i'm talking about what VVD is worth right now. what Southampton sold him for 2 years ago is almost irrelevant to what Leicester should demand right now.
VVD is currently at a top club, is a better and more accomplished player and has also won the CL. Of course those factors will increase his valuation. I am asking you to imagine that it is 2019, VVD is 26 and still at Southampton and wants a move (that 'thought experiment' is much more comparable to our situation with Maguire). Do you think he would move for £120m? The most I could see them asking for is £90m given the inflation that has taken place since then..
 
£120M is a lot for Maguire and AWB but it's 2 positions that are suddenly sorted and won't need worrying about again for a long time.

It's two positions sorted if they end up being good enough, which is by no means guaranteed. If they're not it's a lot of money wasted and two positions we'll have to spend big again to fix in a few years.
 
I dearly hope that's the final offer and we go after Alderweireld instead.

Our record of signing supposedly top class players in the their 30's hasn't exactly worked out for us over the past 6 years. Maguire feels like a much more sensible signing, even if he's costing a lot. Exaclty the type of defender we should be going after.
 
What is the point of having shed loads of money if you don’t use it? Does he make us better? Yes? Ok then buy him. I’m tired of being shite
Exactly :lol: We can't complain about the board for signing two of the best defenders in the league when Arsenal are there trying to sign Yacine Brahimi on a free and maybe Zaha if they spend £80M somehow. Chelsea can't sign anyone so at the very least we should be ahead of those 2 next season. Tottenham have got N'Dombele yes but they have Champions League to offer.
 
The fact that the whole forum seems against it makes me want want him more. Signings we want hardly ever turn out well. This one would.
 
It's two positions sorted if they end up being good enough, which is by no means guaranteed. If they're not it's a lot of money wasted and two positions we'll have to spend big again to fix in a few years.
Isn't that a worry with pretty much any player? We've signed a lot of big names that were certainly "good enough" before they arrived and then they've been terrible.
 
According to BBC we bid but Leicester hasn’t reject it but they do value him higher, I would say don’t take the bait and keep it as £70m. If they say no then so be it. They should accept it, it’s crazy fees for a centre back.
 
Maguire.

Great in the air a set-pieces.....



Plus great at carrying the ball out of defense.....
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Taking a couple clips to make a case is just straight up dishonest. Ever single footballer on the face of the earth makes mistakes. Sometimes they are costly.

Here, take a look at this scouting compilation of highlights and skillplays by Harry instead that tells you more about what he *can* do, as opposed to mistakes anyone is prone to.

 
Setting aside the fact that it makes feck all difference to us if the Glazers have to take another 5 mill of of their annual payouts to make it 75....

Who are the other options that will provide much better value? Despite Tony apparently being available cheap since last year, no team has made a move for him - and Koulibaly will cost a lot more than Maguire

So you think we spend makes no difference? You realise who we are owned by, they don’t pump their own money in, it’s not a bottomless pit so more money spent on Maguire means less elsewhere. The Glazers won’t take less that’s for sure, you need to be realistic.

So many fans have convinced themselves there aren’t any good CB’s around and have to spend a world record fee. Do you seriously think there aren’t good players in France, Germany, Spain etc?.
 
Not happy at all imo. Defensively very overrated, he's like Van djik on the ball but without the actual defensive ability. Could very well turn out to be another Bailly.

What annoys me more though is that £70m should be going towards players like Sancho to upgrade our dire attack. That our front line next season will likely be Martial - Rashford - Lingard again will be the source of our troubles, not our backline, as it has been for the last 2-3 seasons.

I think our back line has been at the very least an equally large issue, I'd argue it's the main source of our problems due to a lack of technical quality back there totally jarring with how we try to play, both in our FBs who get more space than anyone else and our CBs who start (limply) almost every move.

We scored 65 last year, not great but not miles off, we conceded 54. GD 11 which is almost half of our competitors.

Both need overhaul and recruitment but I think it's very likely that our midfield and forwards are being severely hampered by the lack of quality at the back.

Not saying slabhead solves that problem, I'm a fan of his but 70m is the absolute max I'd pay and even that makes me gag a little.
 
Isn't that a worry with pretty much any player? We've signed a lot of big names that were certainly "good enough" before they arrived and then they've been terrible.

Yep, indeed it is.

I guess the issue here is that a lot of posters have seen quite a bit of Maguire and don't think he's that good. They well be wrong of course (and signings rate more could just as easily fail) but it does sour the mood on a potential transfer somewhat.
 
If we bow to Leicester's demands and offer even more than that ridiculous 70m bid they rejected...
 
I think our back line has been at the very least an equally large issue, I'd argue it's the main source of our problems due to a lack of technical quality back there totally jarring with how we try to play, both in our FBs who get more space than anyone else and our CBs who start (limply) almost every move.

We scored 65 last year, not great but not miles off, we conceded 54. GD 11 which is almost half of our competitors.

Both need overhaul and recruitment but I think it's very likely that our midfield and forwards are being severely hampered by the lack of quality at the back.

Not saying slabhead solves that problem, I'm a fan of his but 70m is the absolute max I'd pay and even that makes me gag a little.

Maguire would help (though I still think like Bailly, he's defensively suspect), but it's not going to cause Rashford to finish more chances, Martial to do something every game rather than 1 in 10, or Lingard to grow a new pair of legs. Our problems will consist - primarily because no team in the top ten will be remotely worried at our attack - in fact compared to the likes of Wolves etc ours is worse.
 
Ah - fair point then if it's true.

Smalling is excellent in the air though, whatever his shortcomings as a defender (and there are many), people have to at least give him that, surely?

Yeah, Smalling is excellent in the air, no doubt about it.
 
like who?
This. People just keep throwing up these mythical cbs to go get, but the market for cb is what it is. You’re not going to find a cb that is as proven as McGuire for much less. He’s better than what we currently have and will make our team better on the pitch and in the locker room. I’m fine with the 70 mil. Need more fighters and high character guys in the room.
 
Why do people expect Leicester to just bend over and sell their best players? If they have no reason to sell, which they don't, then they have every right to reject £70m
 
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