It will then be Jones or Rojo + cash, or maybe a loan for Tuanzebe. Something will be worked out
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It will then be Jones or Rojo + cash, or maybe a loan for Tuanzebe. Something will be worked out
But maguire at the team he is at, with his current contract situation IS worth £80m in the current market.
You might not value the player at £80m but the market does.
We all wet ourselves at VVD for £75m but the market has changed, whether you accept it or not it’s just a fact
It's still real to me dammit.
Thats the market rate for a centre back really? So how many centre backs have been sold for £80m in the last few years or ever for that matter?
The point is whether his net benefit to United would be worth 80m.
Oh what i would give for optimism right now!
The ineptitude of our transfer proceeding this window has left me unbelievably bored and without any faith in them at all
We see it as ineptitude but we don't really know what's cracking off behind the scenes.
Anyway, blind optimism works for me ... Followed by crushing disappointment
How many top teams have bought a ready made CB?
De Ligt a potential was £65m
Milito to Madrid - £45m and he is 21.
Dont really remember the any drama around that until the final price was announced. This on the other hand, was happening last year. Then it wasnt, then it was, then it wasnt etc. The window closed, jose had a bitch fit and got sacked. Here we are again. Its on, its off, its on, hes taking a shit, its off blah blah blah. I just dont remember the same level of its on its off as this one.
Also, it was just a crappy little joke.
You can keep saying the market does, but it just shows you do not understand how values work. The buyers decide the value for purchasing. No other club is willing to pay 80 million, and if we do not either than his value currently is lower than 80 million. He does not have much demand.
The reason VVD took longer and it wasnt 18 months, is that Liverpool illegally tapped him up, Southampton had to lodge a complaint hence Liverpool backed off and signed him in Jan.
Maybe you need to educate yourself on compensation fees and transfer fees before you start talking about shopping in Argos.
Wow, that is a first! I am going to go buy a new can and say I want to pay half the amount sorry. I don't value it more?
When was last time you bought something?
It wasn't in the papers all that time. But the negotiations were happening for a very long time in the background. Most big transfers do.
Don't trust in Twitter to give you the whole story.
I guess we'll see whether you are correct or not, but seems like a reasonable move to me and Brighton know that Leicester will have ~£80m burning a hole in their pocket and are now desperate, so the price increases to a very high level.
very goodim feeling like good ol' Bill Murray in Groundhog Day over here, waking up to the same sh*t on the radio everyday
Do you even understand the difference between value and price? Do you understand the difference between the market and the individual?
Juventus got Pogba from United for £0.8m compensation. If you think that was his value at the time, you're mental.
I never go on twitter, or social media in general. This place, talksport and the bbc sports gossip page are my only contact with this stuff. Thats why I dont see very much. So Im sure youre right.
Erm, his contract expired. So what was they paying for? His future earnings? They paid what it would have cost us to get him up to that stag of his development.
This place is effectively a new aggregator for Twitter, every single newspaper, every single radio station, every single TV station, every single journalist, etc. etc.
None? But that’s not what I said. I said current market value.
Transfer fees have been inflating since the PL started and have been skyrocketing since. What would have been considered market value has obviously changed.
It’s silly to say no defender has ever cost £80m because the market today is hyper inflated. If you take Ferdinands transfer fee from 2002 at £39 million and inflate it in line with how prices have Increased it would now be over £90 million...
You could argue maguire isn’t the same player Ferdinand was when he moved, and that would be fine, but you take in to consideration how much money Leicester have, the fact they don’t need to sell, his contract length, the fact He’s likely to be a future England captain and the fact that Leicester see themselves as challenging for a top spot and the fact that Van dijk cost £75m from Southampton a year ago then you can quite easily conceive that you could ask for £80m in this market.
Lock this thread until there is significant news.. too many Leicester fans in this thread
He’s not. It broke late on we wanted him. Got quoted £70m and that was that. There was no trying to meet valuations having a bad belly blah blah blah. We are clearly putting in more effort this time instead of our Man City type approach for him this year.
You seem to be getting a bit confused mate, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The current owner doesn't have to sell of course but if they do then they can't set whatever price they want and expect that someone will definitely pay it.
either way, given that our final preseason match is on Saturday, it's pretty much certain that we don't sign a CB in time to play him once before the season starts - and that feels like a failure in its own. We move agonisingly slow, it's super frustrating.
You’ve slightly misunderstood what he’s saying...
None? But that’s not what I said. I said current market value.
Transfer fees have been inflating since the PL started and have been skyrocketing since. What would have been considered market value has obviously changed.
It’s silly to say no defender has ever cost £80m because the market today is hyper inflated. If you take Ferdinands transfer fee from 2002 at £39 million and inflate it in line with how prices have Increased it would now be over £90 million...
You could argue maguire isn’t the same player Ferdinand was when he moved, and that would be fine, but you take in to consideration how much money Leicester have, the fact they don’t need to sell, his contract length, the fact He’s likely to be a future England captain and the fact that Leicester see themselves as challenging for a top spot and the fact that Van dijk cost £75m from Southampton a year ago then you can quite easily conceive that you could ask for £80m in this market.
Are you sure you didn't say market rate mate?
Great presentation all the same, but none of that changes the fact that £80m isn't the going market rate for centre backs. It may well be before long but lets wait until at least one goes for that price shall we.
So what would you say the going rate is ? £75m?
Can someone please, once and for all, explain to me what is the difference between value, worth and price?
Worth and value are the same. The quality of the player and how valuable he is to his current club AND the buyer.
Price is about the market.
Different spellings
I now know what my own personal hell would be.
I beg to differ. There are some businessmen who absolute mugs. Woodward has been taken to the cleaners many a time.
This did make me laugh.
Good one.
let's move on then. Love Maguire, but it's not worth more wasting time with Leicester.
I’d disagree slightly I think you’ve just shown the difference between worth and value in your post
Worth is how much the player is objectively priced at based on his quality or skill and value includes worth but then adds on how valuable he is to his current club and how valuable he is compared to similar players that have been sold.
Starting to think we should look at alternatives this deal isn't worth so much time wasting as big a fan of HM I am
This is pretty hollow article. Basically just says fee not agreed yet and Harry went back to training this morning
Famous quote: “There is no value in the market”. As if to show all players are priced higher than their real worth should be.
Lingard represents value to the club if they use him as a squad player. If we were to sell him, given the wages he is on, his market price might be close to £10m, so the club would need to buy a replacement player for £30-50m. To many of us fans, when we see how he plays, he is worth shit.
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