I'd be shocked if there's a plan b, if we don't sign him, we won't sign another CB.
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I'd be shocked if there's a plan b, if we don't sign him, we won't sign another CB.
We are not being arrogant though, we as a fanbase are primarily happy with the direction we appear to be going and the ambition being shown by our owners.
15/16 was something I never thought I would see in my lifetime and I've been going down and a ST holder for over 4 decades.
We were a yo yo club for many years mainly top 2 flights but third teir for 1 season, seeing the glory once and the rebuild since, with a dirth of mainly young talented players,coupled with some experienced quality is exciting.
If you perceive being optimistic about the direction we are going and looking forward to the season ahead, hopefully watching exciting attacking football, as arrogant then guilty as charged.
The owner has a clear plan and he is supporting BR in having a right good go at the difficult task of gatecrashing the established top 6.
Time will tell, I think it will be an interesting ride and believe me I like the majority of our fans know how quickly things can go wrong in the beautiful game.
Increased competition from the 'smaller' clubs is surely better for the EPL?
The Sky/ BT money and more oligarch and rich owners coming into the league is meaning the top heavy control is not quite so prevalent.
In the 80s n 90s Man City n Chelsea were yo yo and not so 'big' and succesful as they have been over the last few years, why shouldn't any club including us strive for improvement and European places?
As for Jones et al, it was a point being made and it's more like I would have much more faith in our recruitment process and formula than yours as present.
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I believe Maguire is plan C already, Koulibaly and De Ligt were the primary targets.
And there’s a rumor that Hummels turned us down
Yeah I can’t think of another club who have bought loads of centre backs for a fortune?
Understand Diop (for similar price) and Dunk (bit less) are plans D and E.
No maguire, and we get to see Smalling and Jones play Cb. No way is Axel getting more games than them two in the pl.
No chance we are going diop, the rumour was we were asked and quoted 60-70m. Dunk would be 40m and the melt down would be hilarious
If it comes down to dunk I’d play Jones/smalling
I totally agree with you!
This is why this is difficult for Leicester. Part of the strategy seems to be offering players with potential a route to the 1st team (Maddison, Ricardo, Tielemans, Ayoze, as well as our own u21s such as Chilwell, now Barnes, etc).
If we just flatly refuse to strike deals, it derails this approach, because as you say, such players will just go to alternate clubs. Balancing this with getting the right price, having the right players to replace them (Like we seem to be doing with James Justin coming in as understudy to Ricardo, who if hes has another great season will likely have offers next season)
Again, a great post - thoroughly agree with you.
Hey, don’t slam Dunk!
Also think this is going to be tight. I have heard there is a deadline for any bids to be entertained. If no significant movement in the 5 days or so, it is unlikely there will be movement at all. (No bowel jokes please). I am sure for sensible fans this is understood from the Utd side, as there would be a load of work for Leicester to do should an acceptable bid come in, and you may not care, but Leicester certainly will.
Harry has already been in all friendly squads since he got back, so getting a replacement over the line, embedded in the squad, will certainly take some time.
He is currently in the squad for today’s friendly versus Stoke, so unless that changes for some reason, it is certainly looking less and less likely.
Final word, I also heard the acceptance criteria is 90m not 80m. Don’t shoot the messenger.
Harry has already been in all friendly squads since he got back, so getting a replacement over the line, embedded in the squad, will certainly take some time.
He is currently in the squad for today’s friendly versus Stoke, so unless that changes for some reason, it is certainly looking less and less likely.
Final word, I also heard the acceptance criteria is 90m not 80m. Don’t shoot the messenger.
Nah £40m was the early bird Leicester price. For us at this stage in the window you're looking upwards of £60m as they know we're backed into a corner.
i'm fully expecting the next big update from the BBC or someone like Simon Peach is going to be "MUFC have finished their window after not finding value in the market and will now focus on trimming the squad"
We can all feel it deep down, this kind of story is just around the corner.
A deadline day swoop for (surplus-to-requirements) Saints Ace Lemina will satisfy the fans.
Wow I can't believe someone else gets it. There are so many other defenders at Maguire's level and higher. I'd put Webster right up there. If he went to an Everton or Leicester he'd be quality pl defender in 1 season. Then we'd buy for 60/70m. Where are our alternatives? We're just linked with the same three players constantly. Are we even using scouts? Even Ayoze Perez would have been a good squad addition for United. 30m and young, wants to improve. What are United actually doing?
Dont reckon we'd do that 2 years in a row. I'm sure we'll sign a CB if not Maguire then someone else. Would be incredible if we didn't.
Don't believe the interest in Koulibaly honestly, don't think we'd ever have been willing to spend the money needed for him.
I think even woodward was scarred by the Fellaini saga. Never seen it that bad since. However, the excuses will come soon. It will either be as i've highlighted above, or some utter nonsense put out by woodward that "ole is SO IMPRESSED by the youth this window that he doesn't feel the need to spend any more. Ole feels the balance of youth and experience is working well"
So Ole is going again with Smalling and Jones ffs.
Smalling and Lindelof
Lindelof and Tuanzebe!
Okay.
Spending £200 million on Maguire, when the likes of De Ligt, Kouibaly, Marquinhos and Varane would be available for signifcantly less, would be idiotic to say the least. Not that the Glazers would even consider sanctioning the deal. So no, I wouldn't be happy
Okay.
Spending £200 million on Maguire, when the likes of De Ligt, Kouibaly, Marquinhos and Varane would be available for signifcantly less, would be idiotic to say the least. Not that the Glazers would even consider sanctioning the deal. So no, I wouldn't be happy
Exactly. That's how the fans feel at this stage, when we have to pay reportedly 85-90m in order to get Maguire, while the likes of De Ligt, who is younger and better, only went for 67m. There are fans who are not happy about us overpaying the players who are rated lower and older, and its understandable. Its all about how much we can tolerate, some can tolerate us overpaid by extra 10m, some can tolerate 20m, some can tolerate 30-40m etc. But eventually, everyone has to draw their line somewhere. Maybe for you, 80-90m (overpay by 20-30m) is ok, but at 200m (overpay by 130-140m) is total nonsense, and you wouldn't be happy.
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There is no way to please all the fans. If we buy a young talented CB for a fair price, half of the supporters will say it's another Bailly situation. If we purchase Maguire for the quoted insane fess, the other half will say we are grossly overpaying.
The struggles in the last 6 years really have driven the whole fanbase insane.
As with one of the above posters, I genuinely would prefer Plan B to be Tuanzebe-Lindelof.
I wouldn’t understand a Plan B of Milenkovic / Diop when we have Tuanzebe already here who, I’d argue, has a higher potential ceiling than them.
I wouldn’t understand a Plan B of Milenkovic / Diop when we have Tuanzebe already here who, I’d argue, has a higher potential ceiling than them.
On this, we agree.
But we're not going to pay £200 million for Harry Maguire or anywhere close to that figure, so chill.
We cannot persist with our current CB options. Woodward needs to pay up or our scouts need to identify another option. What was even the point of doing anything this window of we're not going to get the wholesale changes we need.
Well, if our budget is limited, another option for Woodward would be to spend money on other positions, if CB is not attainable. It's good to get a CB, but RF and midfield also needs reinforcements. It's better then to spend Maguire money in midfield than don't buy anyone.
Why would you argue that though? On what basis?
Former team mate Dawson says Maguire transfer will happen.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...-news/man-utd-harry-maguire-transfer-16653976
God knows if I'm not convinced it's going to happen. We've become even tighter with money, he's not gonna rock the boat for a move and the Leicester don't need the money. Not sure if they'd have time to replace him either...
He's suggesting Leicester would sell because of the figures being thrown around. Rodgers confirmed they already rejected a huge offer. We either pay the evaluation or he isn't coming.
He seems as in the dark as anyone. If he'd said "I spoke to slabhead only this morning, and as we speak he's packing his United pyjamas..." then we'd have a story.
Too similar imho
Ole’s comments about us not changing targets just because you hit an obstacle implies we will go all in for Maguire before deadline day. This one will get done for a record fee. City have shown time and again that they will walk away and not compete with us on fees, so we will stump up the ludicrous fee Leicester are demanding for a player who will need to be replaced if we ever want to challenge for the league, he simply isn’t top tier. Anything to shut up our moaning fans will be worth it at this point,
Have said it already in this thread. Using DeLigt as a price comparison is a folly. He went for that price because Ajax had an agreement with him not to price him out of the market so he could choose where he wanted to go. Otherwise he would have gone for €100m in a bidding war.
Unusual transfer and an outlier, not really relevant to discussing Maguires alleged price tag
If that is true then it is absolutely absurd from a business perspective. Ajax risking 40m to honour a gentleman's agreement. I suppose they didn't know his value was going to skyrocket back then.
i agreed with most of this, but i just think the idea that fans have any influence over the emotions of staff or policy of the club is just false. We are like white noise to these people.
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