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I for one find it stupid when people say “It’s not my/your money & we’re not paying the fee so just be happy” - *only when context matters AKA we don’t have a need for said player with there being other priorities in the squad”

Example: when we got Alexis, there was absolutely no need for him with Martial playing the best football of his United career especially given the wages we handed him. But people said the same old ‘it’s not our money just be glad’ bs which makes no sense because 1.) it shows no direction to fix our squad from an order of priority 2.) remarks like that for senseless moves like Sanchez enables the board to keep doing these dumb moves 3.) it is our money. Fans who go to games or fans globally who buy merchandise or even watch games contribute towards United’s record breaking revenue. The profits us fans reward to the club enable them to splash money and at times, blindly and uselessly.



HOWEVER,

I don’t think Maguire fits that mould/saying in this context. I agree for this instant that let’s not worry about the fee if it means sealing the transfer because unlike above, 1.) this is a positional priority that needs to be addressed and shows direction 2.) this is not reckless like Alexis and is actually a sensible move for the squad 3.) it is our money but money we should be happy to spend considering its for the right cause.

Let’s remember, Leicester have no obligation to sell+Maguire is English+we are United with all 3 meaning a more inflated price to get a deal done. It’s no different than when City got Walker from Spurs, it’s just what needs to happen to get a deal done and in our case to get the reinforcements we need. When City got Walker, the market was inflated thus the record breaking fee they had to pay and a few years down the road, the price will obviously be higher for someone like Maguire which again will potentially be another record fee. It’s just common knowledge really and nothing out of the norm.



...so yea, I’m for this move even considering the price it’ll cost with all this considered. At least it’s in the right direction and a priority which badly needs to be addressed and not some head scratcher like previous moves. There’s a difference between the 2 and Maguire would be for the better. I don’t get the people complaining about this because we should honestly be celebrating once/if it’s completed :)
 
Not sure where this idea of a Utd tax comes from, at least in this instance? Price is 80m, some seem to think it would be less if Man City were in for him.
Why is this? Stinks of victim hood too me. I highly doubt the price would be lower for anyone, it’s the price.
Just wish this would reach a conclusion one way or another, but sure as sh*t bet the papers don’t!
 
Got to love Ed's negotiation tactics. Been haggling for weeks and he's still going to end up paying full price.

Could have done that a month ago and got Maguire integrated into the squad by now.
 
Got to love Ed's negotiation tactics. Been haggling for weeks and he's still going to end up paying full price.

Could have done that a month ago and got Maguire integrated into the squad by now.
Wait till He pays 90m for Maguire plus 20m addon if We qualify for CL next season.

The man is brilliant and I would be afraid to talk to him. Seems like a genius who lives in his own world.
 
I agree - hopefully it will be Maguire, Tuanzebe, Lindelof and Bailly for most of the season.
Think this would be decent as would also be my choice as there is a good chance Phil Jones and Rojo are going to spend a significant part of out injured. Was hoping they would have been sold but it looks like we are stuck with the two of them.
 
People honestly thinking/hoping Bailly will get in the team ahead of Smalling :wenger:

Smalling isn't good, but he's much less of a walking disaster zone than headless chicken Bailly.
 
fecking foxes :lol:
I love how most of them feel as if Leicester is some sort of rival to us. :lol:

It would be a safe bet that we do the double on them again this year, we were so shite last season, yet still won both home and away.
 
Got to love Ed's negotiation tactics. Been haggling for weeks and he's still going to end up paying full price.

Could have done that a month ago and got Maguire integrated into the squad by now.
That's what p!ssses me off with Woody he knows how much they want and knows in hid head how much he is prepared to pay. If those valuations are the same just pay it instead of haggling as by getting the player in quickly gives them ore time time to gel with the squad and get used to Ole's methods quicker which is obviously going to benefit us more the following season.
 
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Fully realising this is a forum specifically targeted at Manchester United supporters primarily, it is however open to other fans to discuss footballing issues including transfers. This is an inclusive forum, and from what I have read, the vast majority of "invaders" seem to come for sensible discussion. So it is hardly surprising that there are plenty of Foxes here when one of our top players is a transfer target who goes from
- desired target
- overpriced
- not good enough for Utd
- much better alternatives
Then just repeat the whole process again.
However, I also note that the more reactive/outraged Utd fans tend to be those with a post count of less than 1000. (Seems may need to withdraw that statement judging by the last few post :lol: )
And looking at Classic Mechanic's post lower down - recommend you don`t confuse "brand" success with footballing success!

I enjoy conversing with other fans, in a sensible and only slightly partisan manner.
Cheers
 
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I love how most of them feel as if Leicester is some sort of rival to us. :lol:

It would be a safe bet that we do the double on them again this year, we were so shite last season, yet still won both home and away.
They are deluded AF thinking Brendan is going to take them to great heights.:lol:
Will probably have a good/great 6 months before his defense starts failing on him.
 
I rate Maguire a lot and feel he would not only organise our defence but we would be far more of a unit with him in it. I can see us conceding far less goals with him in the side. Maguire, Ice man with both shaw and Spider-Man on each flank does seem really juicy. Also, back up for both centre backs will be Tuenzebe, Smalling and Bailly. I think that’s a pretty good defence. Add that to De Gea signing a new deal which could mean our defence is sorted for years. Then I believe we should start looking at the attacking areas. The reason why the defence comes first is because we do have some really talented youngsters who can make it with us. I think a CB should be our top priority before anything else.
 
Not sure where this idea of a Utd tax comes from, at least in this instance? Price is 80m, some seem to think it would be less if Man City were in for him.
Why is this? Stinks of victim hood too me. I highly doubt the price would be lower for anyone, it’s the price.
Just wish this would reach a conclusion one way or another, but sure as sh*t bet the papers don’t!
It's not hard. Teams with more money will invariably be charged more by the selling club.
 
He’s not slow. He’s not extremely fast. Stop focusing on his pace, If you’ve seen him play you’ll know it’s not an issue.

The only people talking about his pace are people who haven’t actually seen him play, the same people who think Skriniar is the best defender on the planet.
 
I hope we don’t drag this deal out to the last minute because I am afraid Leicester will not deal then. Their back ups to Maguire are a 35 yr old Morgan and two young CBs in Soyuncu and Benkovic, not very promising. I am sure they will look for a replacement if they sell Maguire, and we need to give them time to do that.
 
It's not hard. Teams with more money will invariably be charged more by the selling club.
Quite agree with that. Thats most clubs in the EPL now though, but for higher profile players (Like Harry) the premium is higher still. My point was that there isn`t a conspiracy against Utd, its pretty much "how it is now" for all clubs in the EPL, especially those from 6th and above.
 
Is dean jones from bleacher report reliable?
He’s saying it’s done at 80. BBC has referenced that report as well.
 
I hope we don’t drag this deal out to the last minute because I am afraid Leicester will not deal then. Their back ups to Maguire are a 35 yr old Morgan and two young CBs in Soyuncu and Benkovic, not very promising. I am sure they will look for a replacement if they sell Maguire, and we need to give them time to do that.

Where is Evans?
 
I hope we don’t drag this deal out to the last minute because I am afraid Leicester will not deal then. Their back ups to Maguire are a 35 yr old Morgan and two young CBs in Soyuncu and Benkovic, not very promising. I am sure they will look for a replacement if they sell Maguire, and we need to give them time to do that.
Agree with the part in bold. Been saying this for a while Leicester need time to get a replacement and if we wait too long they could tell ud to p!ss off and then we will be left scrambling for an overpriced replacement at the end of the window or even worse we don't end up signing any centre-back at all:(
 
If we don't buy Maguire, which player/s would you sign with the 80m?
 
Quite agree with that. Thats most clubs in the EPL now though, but for higher profile players (Like Harry) the premium is higher still. My point was that there isn`t a conspiracy against Utd, its pretty much "how it is now" for all clubs in the EPL, especially those from 6th and above.
The going price is still significantly higher for the top teams in the EPL than it is the bottom. I don’t think anyone really thinks it’s a conspiracy. It’s just a inconvenient truth that has to be factored in when we declare interest in a player.
 
If we don't buy Maguire, which player/s would you sign with the 80m?

We seemingly have no back up option at CB so I would look for a top class DM and Bruno fernandes with the remainder of summer budget, let's say 80m plus lukaku fee.
 
We had the best defensive record in the league going back to LVG with the majority of the same defenders. It worked because the team setup facilitated less goals going in and De Gea was brilliant. Last season however the GK was wobbly and the team was poor in helping out the defenders and we conceded sloppy goals.
It’s easy to have a good defence when you’re not commiting men to get forward and your instructions are defence first
 
If we don't buy Maguire, which player/s would you sign with the 80m?
I'd do for Diop and pay the "£75m West Ham are asking. I fear if we miss out on Maguire we are going going to get to get charged even crazier prices as teams will know we are desperate, Who would you go for?
 
I'd do for Diop and pay the "£75m West Ham are asking. I fear if we miss out on Maguire we are going going to get to get charged even crazier prices as teams will know we are desperate, Who would you go for?
I'd go for Diop and offer 50M
 
People honestly thinking/hoping Bailly will get in the team ahead of Smalling :wenger:

Smalling isn't good, but he's much less of a walking disaster zone than headless chicken Bailly.
Yeah it’s crazy. Bailly isn’t that much better on the ball either!
Smalling gets a lot of bad press because he’s not a complete footballer, he’s an old school defender. But he’s still good at that, actual defending and is the only one out of our current CBs who can competently Head the ball. He would actually compensate Maguire better than lindelof but I know that won’t go down well with the ones who think that passing is more important than defending skills now
 
He’s not slow. He’s not extremely fast. Stop focusing on his pace, If you’ve seen him play you’ll know it’s not an issue.

The only people talking about his pace are people who haven’t actually seen him play, the same people who think Skriniar is the best defender on the planet.

Have you seen him try to move his feet on the turn when he’s beaten? When people say he is slow this is what they are referring to. Not just his straightline speed or acceleration.
 
Have you seen him try to move his feet on the turn when he’s beaten? When people say he is slow this is what they are referring to. Not just his straightline speed or acceleration.
Vidic wasn't quick, nor was Bruce. They always had pace alongside in Rio and Pallister. Stam was very fast but Henning Berg or even Ronnie Johnsen weren't really that fast.What they all made up in was an ability to read the game brilliantly and organise the defence.

Too much is made of having pace. One CB who is quick and 2 FBs who are fast can make up for it. We can't all have Maldini and Baresi
 
Vidic wasn't quick, nor was Bruce. They always had pace alongside in Rio and Pallister. Stam was very fast but Henning Berg or even Ronnie Johnsen weren't really that fast.What they all made up in was an ability to read the game brilliantly and organise the defence.

Too much is made of having pace. One CB who is quick and 2 FBs who are fast can make up for it. We can't all have Maldini and Baresi
Which would be good if he was good at reading defensive situations and had good positioning. Vindictive had good feet by the way and was quick on the turn. Maguire is not. We are talking about vastly different things here than just pace.
 
Agree with the part in bold. Been saying this for a while Leicester need time to get a replacement and if we wait too long they could tell ud to p!ss off and then we will be left scrambling for an overpriced replacement at the end of the window or even worse we don't end up signing any centre-back at all:(
Exactly, it seems that we have pretty much put all our eggs in the Maguire basket and will be forced to make a desperation move if this doesn’t go through. We could play the waiting game if we were in City’s position, but given the circumstances I think we need to bite the bullet and pay the premium.
 
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