AWB and Shaw will have to be on alert. Perhaps we will not be pushing both fullbacks up in the same way. AWB does not seem like he has a strong delivery so he might be there to stop counters while Shaw is strong at carrying the ball.
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AWB and Shaw will have to be on alert. Perhaps we will not be pushing both fullbacks up in the same way. AWB does not seem like he has a strong delivery so he might be there to stop counters while Shaw is strong at carrying the ball.
That's what I'm implying in response to him. If he's better than Ake (which he is) and our current CBs then I don't care about value for money.
I haven't taken the time to compare them so I'm not sure. Ake does seem like he has the potential to go up a level though.
It doesn't bother me. In fact, I just find it interesting. I find the Ed Woodward led transfer policy of Manchester Utd truly fascinating. An lesson in how not to run a football club.
If Maguire was a flavor he would be vanilla. Boring, but curiously exquisite. He'd also go well with other flavors, like Tuanzebe, who would be custard (I sidestepped this one. We live in sensitive times)
Bit pot and kettle from a club who spent roughly 100m on sigurdsson and Richarlison.
This is something I had considered. I'd rather sign or develop a holding midfielder that drops in as a half back and makes a 3 with the centre backs, freeing up the full backs to both push forward. A bit like De Jong and Busquets have done in the past. I guess any improvement on the team is an improvement. Wan Bissaka is a particularly good covering defender.
I can understand people are excited that United will finally buy a CB.
but. 80m for a (and i'm trying to be nice) 30m player?
but. 80m for a (and i'm trying to be nice) 30m player?
What a complete load of shite
Yeah, I think the only one we have been linked with is Rice though. That has dried up.
Everton are hardly the blueprint for success.
This is probably what Woodward was thinking last summer.
Im not a big fan but he is worth more then 30m
ok, seriously. 30m was maybe a bit harsh. What if the good ones weren't already taken? What would he be worth to you then?
Not even worth 30m - can't understand why utd are after another donkey - we already have 2
Oh, you were kidding back there? Silly me. I thought you're a WUM. Good con.
I wouldn't want to know how are you when you're rude, then.
50m max but just glad to see it addressed.
Everton now have a DOF who knows what he's doing. That, in itself is a big upgrade over Utd.
Everton should be a force to be reckoned with next season then it seems.
It takes time. They are heading in a good direction.
I'd be furious if Woodward signed Delph.
£44.2m
Straight cash. That is what he’s worth.
+ £10m because he’s English
+ £20m because we’re UTD and have a Chief Ex. that says things like “we can do things other clubs only dream of”
+ £5m - £20m( depending on player and buying club) tax on the market brought in when oil rich Royal families starting owning football clubs.
And you left with Maguire for £80m +
However, we are at that point where we have no choice.
Straight cash. That is what he’s worth.
+ £10m because he’s English
+ £20m because we’re UTD and have a Chief Ex. that says things like “we can do things other clubs only dream of”
+ £5m - £20m( depending on player and buying club) tax on the market brought in when oil rich Royal families starting owning football clubs.
And you left with Maguire for £80m +
However, we are at that point where we have no choice.
Nathan Ake is a potential world class defender. Seen plenty games of his, he's had a solid season for Bournemouth. He's a great reader of the game, has good positional sense, is moderately aggressive in his play and a keen awareness for danger which is something a majority of defenders in the league lack. Reminds me of Puyol in a sense given his lack of physicality but intense directness in his game. You have to consider both the lack of quality in defence and Eddie Howe's nativity in his application to tactics for the fact they concede so many goals.
I've always said 100 million combined for Brooks / Ake is good business. Both players improve the starting 11 and brooks would drastically close the door on Lingard / Mata's playing time. This however is only in terms of value, Maguire is the better defender overall as of now but give Ake two more years in the premier league he's going to be quality.
I've always said 100 million combined for Brooks / Ake is good business. Both players improve the starting 11 and brooks would drastically close the door on Lingard / Mata's playing time. This however is only in terms of value, Maguire is the better defender overall as of now but give Ake two more years in the premier league he's going to be quality.
Well he'll soon join a world class team then surely...
We’re all quivering.
This idea that you need pace to play a high line is a bit nonsense to me.
Barcelona played with a high line and they had Pique as a CB. Positioning is always more important than sheer pace.
Barcelona played with a high line and they had Pique as a CB. Positioning is always more important than sheer pace.
No, you just move to the next player and see if you can get them for a more reasonable price. Then if Leicester want the money they'll have to come down instead of us bending over
Or £80 million because Leicester do not want or need to sell Maguire, so they set a price (if one has been set) where it is too good for them to refuse... their I do not want to sell price, just like we have set a tag of £150+ million for Pogba... you want him you pay over the odds and through the nose.
Also bear in mind that Leicester need to replace Maguire, now if Utd have scouted and decided that Maguire is worth £70+ Million it is because they have failed to find players matching Maguire's credentials for less, this means that Leicester are not easily going to be able to find a like for like replacement for Maguire or at least one which is not going to have them paying through the nose also or a player they have to take a risk on.
In short even at £80 million it is not a great deal for Leicester a club who have won the Premier league more recently than us and who has serious designs on finishing 6th or higher next season, losing Maguire is a big dent in those ambitions and the profile that the club is building.
I know we are Utd, one of the biggest clubs in the world but Leicester are well backed, managed and are in a prime stable situation to build on their recent success, they are not a minnow to be bullied.
The situation is not different to Madrid and De Gea, Leicester want £80 million or more it is up to them and the only reason or justification they need to set the price that high is that he is their player under a long contract, time some of the fans on here woke up and smelled the coffee.
No he isn't he is slow and will only get slower and is really really average .
So the classic "No value in the market" line at the end of the window then? Because that is inevitably where your method takes us.
Yeah but FIFA
well played I like thatWoodward shouldn't even dare go on the tour until a CB and two midfielders are signing.
TBF I’d take Tierney at £25m, he can also cover rightback too.
Seems Celtic turned down 25m from Arsenal so it would appear his price is higher. Not sure he is worth it considering the SPL is a lower standard than the Championship and there are injury concerns.
This
This is the issue, I don't understand why we're in for him. Best teams in the league play with wing backs but we won't be able to. A slower CB is ok if we have a sweeper keeper but we don't. We also have a ridiculously slow DM.
If Lindelof-Maguire is our CB pairing I think we're in real trouble and that's not because they're bad player individually but I think it's a disaster pairing. Unless, and this is my biggest fear, Ole is planning to setup exactly as Mou did and just have faster players on the counter. Sitting deep, full backs play a limited role, long balls through to faster players.
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