Harry Maguire | Signed

[AlexUTD]

You watched Leicester many times and came to the conclusion that Maguire is poor technically and can’t pass the ball forward? I call bullshit

I have 100 different football channels so not hard to catch any premier league game.

You didint mention slow so i guess you agree on that.

How many times have you watched Leicester and Maguire this season then? Seem to me that you watched only youtube clips of him, everyone looks gifted in those videos.

After a bad season with a defence with Maguire, they hardly could keep a clean sheat, wich part impressed you the most?

 

[berbasloth4]

They didnt say that I did., they just laughed at the valuation and high opinion that the English have of him

ake wouldn't be far off being a better choice, cheaper just as a good, couple years on him and can also play full back..

the high valuation over rating of Maguire is unreal - would rather take johnny evans back from leceister

 

[Suv666]

Unfortunately are we in a position where we can be that picky? We're desperate.

Seems like we've learned nothing from the VG window. Rather than buying mediocre the club should get some high rated younglings like the Sampadoria lad. Maguire is a decent CB tbf but feck me the price is beyond mental.

 

[esmufc07]

Would be such a bad signing.

 

[RedSky]

Thanks.

Yeah 90 million is really absurd and if that's the case we should follow City and abort the plan. We really should have alternatives lined up.

The alternatives that have been mentioned in the press are all pretty shit as heading the ball for what its worth. Their strengths all come from their ball playing skills which is better than Maguires.

Koulibaly, Alderweireld, Dias and Anderson all have less than 60% win rate for headers. As does Tuanzebe.

 

[BrunoLCFC]

Has a mistake in him like most players I would say not a huge upgrade defensively for you. Fantastic in the air, a good leader and his ability to start attacks is second to none in this league including Laporte in my opinion.

I don't agree with these ridiculous fees but for example Palace wanting £60m for a player who has had one season (a very good one admittedly), No international caps you can see why we will be greedy for more also.

Plus our owners don't need to sell or want to.

 

[roonster09]

The alternatives that have been mentioned in the press are all pretty shit as heading the ball for what its worth. Their strengths all come from their ball playing skills which is better than Maguires.

Koulibaly, Alderweireld, Dias and Anderson all have less than 60% win rate for headers. As does Tuanzebe.

If we improve our team play and basics, we don't really need a CB who is very dominant in the air. IIRC Laporte wins 59% and Kompany is also around 60% but their defensive positioning to pick up loose balls is fantastic.

 

[AdNani]

I have 100 different football channels so not hard to catch any premier league game.

You didint mention slow so i guess you agree on that.

How many times have you watched Leicester and Maguire this season then? Seem to me that you watched only youtube clips of him, everyone looks gifted in those videos.

After a bad season with a defence with Maguire, they hardly could keep a clean sheat, wich part impressed you the most?

I didn’t mention slow because it’s pretty obvious he’s not the quickest? If you said ‘I’ve Watched him many times and he is slow’ I’d of agreed with what you said, but you said he’s poor technically and cannot pass the ball forward. Which is bollox.

I’ve watched him in total about 20ish games over the course of the last 3 years and I would of taken him from Hull.

Out of our Cbs Only Smalling is good in the air, poor with ball at Feet, Lindelof is our best on the ball, weakness is in the air. Maguire is better in the air than Smalling and better on the ball than Lindelof. Would be our best defender, comfortably

 

[Eckers99]

Why comment on a player you’ve clearly never seen play properly?

You're absolutely right but since when has that been a pre requisite on here?

 

[AdNani]

You're absolutely right but since when has that been a pre requisite on here?

Agreed, infuriating, they see that he’s English, 6’4 and assume he’s Titus Bramble ffs

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Out of our Cbs Only Smalling is good in the air, poor with ball at Feet, Lindelof is our best on the ball, weakness is in the air. Maguire is better in the air than Smalling and better on the ball than Lindelof. Would be our best defender, comfortably

100%.

Not sure why you’re continuing a debate with a guy who’s clearly never seen Maguire play. I mean, he said he’s shit on the ball ffs

 

[john moran]

How is spending nearly 150 million on 2 players shows lack of ambition?

Lack of ideas? For sure but how can it indicate lack of ambition.

Ambition may be the wrong word , ideas or desperation is probably better.

In order to compete at the very top again and because of mis management at all levels we probably need to spend 800 million - 1.5 billion on quality players .
Not players of Maguires level.

If and when we are sold to the Saudis that is exactly what will happen

 

[Enigma_87]

If we improve our team play and basics, we don't really need a CB who is very dominant in the air. IIRC Laporte wins 59% and Kompany is also around 60% but their defensive positioning to pick up loose balls is fantastic.

They also play high line, which is yet to see if we are going to also do. If we play deeper we would need a dominant in the air defender.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

You watched Leicester many times and came to the conclusion that Maguire is poor technically and can’t pass the ball forward? I call bullshit

Same here. He's brilliant at playing out from the back.

 

[Red Devil Rising]

We could do a lot worse than Maguire.

Strong, good in the air, good with the ball at his feet, knows the Premier League and would add some much needed leadership to the back 4.

 

[Kush]

He is easily better than any CB at Utd right now and probably top 5 in the Premier league not to mention England's top CB. Glad you think he's an oaf.

The quality of current CBs at United is shocking, there are no of CBs in every league who'd be an improvement upon them, that doesn't mean we should sign them.

Coming to Top 5 bit in PL, the league is hardly brimming with quality of CBs is it? There are only two standouts in the league in form of van Dijk and Laporte, rest are far behind. If Maguire was in Top 5 when the league had the likes of Terry, Carvalho, Rio and Vidic then I'd agree with you. Same applies for England as well, his competition are Smalling, Keane, Jones and Stones.

He's a decent CB who isn't worth the sum you lot would be asking for, end of story. £17m signing doesn't become worth £90m in space of 2 decent seasons.

 

[Red Devil Rising]

The quality of current CBs at United is shocking, there are no of CBs in every league who'd be an improvement upon them, that doesn't mean we should sign them.

Coming to Top 5 bit in PL, the league is hardly brimming with quality of CBs is it? There are only two standouts in the league in form of van Dijk and Laporte, rest are far behind. If Maguire was in Top 5 when the league had the likes of Terry, Carvalho, Rio and Vidic then I'd agree with you. Same applies for England as well, his competition are Smalling, Keane, Jones and Stones.

He's a decent CB who isn't worth the sum you lot would be asking for, end of story. £17m signing doesn't become worth £90m in space of 2 decent seasons.

So you're saying we should sign a CB that isn't better than what we currently have..

 

[Kush]

So you're saying we should sign a CB that isn't better than what we currently have..

You need to brush up your comprehension skills, I'm saying there are lot many CBs in every league who'd improve us because the current benchmark of CBs at United is pretty rubbish. Just because they're an improvement over the current shower that doesn't mean they are a) of the required quality b) worth the quoted money.

 

[Steve McGivern]

The quality of current CBs at United is shocking, there are no of CBs in every league who'd be an improvement upon them, that doesn't mean we should sign them.

Coming to Top 5 bit in PL, the league is hardly brimming with quality of CBs is it? There are only two standouts in the league in form of van Dijk and Laporte, rest are far behind. If Maguire was in Top 5 when the league had the likes of Terry, Carvalho, Rio and Vidic then I'd agree with you. Same applies for England as well, his competition are Smalling, Keane, Jones and Stones.

He's a decent CB who isn't worth the sum you lot would be asking for, end of story. £17m signing doesn't become worth £90m in space of 2 decent seasons.

£8M Andrew Robertson says hi

 

[doriandun]

I agree we should be able to find other options and it wouldn’t take a world record fee for a defender to improve our defence.

The time to buy Maguire was when he left Hull, would have been cheaper than Lindelof. Now he isn’t for sale and would cost significantly more than VVD despite not being anywhere near as good. We should be able to identify and sign other options.

We could of got him for 70 mill last season, then offload, Darmian for 8 mill, Rojo for 10 mill, and Jones for between 10 and 15 mill, thats a total of £28 mill to £33 mill recouped, thus getting him for just under 40 mill.

Maguire would probably form a good partnership with Linderof, just look at Linderof's partnership in the Sweden national team.

Ed doesn't play poker, because the hand he played with Mourinho, is at a lost to the club, not only are we out of champions league, but we will get fleeced in the transfer market for quality additions this summer, we can only hope the clubs gravitaze will encourage players to come.

Our scouts should of been woking overtime over the last year to identify affordable targets, find a way to get deadwood of the books, even at a lost, before pre season, which is about three weeks from now.

Just look at Real, thats how you go about your business, get the important stuff out the way, and then everybody can relax, go on holiday, and tie up the smaller piece of business at your leisure.

 

[devilish]

Or it maybe the simple case of other teams playing better than England on that particular day.

That doesn't explain the defensive brainfarts.

 

[devilish]

We could of got him for 70 mill last season, then offload, Darmian for 8 mill, Rojo for 10 mill, and Jones for between 10 and 15 mill, thats a total of £28 mill to £33 mill recouped, thus getting him for just under 40 mill.

Maguire would probably form a good partnership with Linderof, just look at Linderof's partnership in the Sweden national team.

Ed doesn't play poker, because the hand he played with Mourinho, is at a lost to the club, not only are we out of champions league, but we will get fleeced in the transfer market for quality additions this summer, we can only hope the clubs gravitaze will encourage players to come.

Our scouts should of been woking overtime over the last year to identify affordable targets, find a way to get deadwood of the books, even at a lost, before pre season, which is about three weeks from now.

Just look at Real, thats how you go about your business, get the important stuff out the way, and then everybody can relax, go on holiday, and tie up the smaller piece of business at your leisure.

I very much doubt it. Both are comfortable with the ball but painfully slow. Maguire is better in air which is a good thing and something Lindelof lack but you don't spend 80m to end up with a central defence which can't counter pacey players. Not to forget that neither players are leaders.

If we want a tall lump whose comfortable with the ball then we should go for Joachim Andersen. He shares Maguire's weaknesses and strengths but he's younger and he's cheaper.

 

[Mcking]

He looks awkward cumbersome, and makes a lot of mistakes. Caf would hate him after a few months.

 

[Deleted 112447]

He'd be decent but not for 75-80 mil. For that money you expect a nigh perfect defender and he is far from that. Hazard left for 100 mil and Leicester want 80 for Maguire ? No way. Anything more then 50 mil and we should look elsewhere or continue with Lindelof and hope Bailey stays clear of injuries while we look for a proper World Class CB.

 

[roonster09]

That doesn't explain the defensive brainfarts.

What?

 

[devilish]

What?

The defensive brain farts witnessed against Holland and Croatia.

 

[roonster09]

The defensive brain farts witnessed against Holland and Croatia.

Yeah it was Maguire's leadership that made Walker and Stones to switch off against Craotia.

Just say anything randomly to make a point.

England losing has nothing to do with Maguire's leadership.

 

[devilish]

Yeah it was Maguire's leadership that made Walker and Stones to switch off against Craotia.

Just say anything randomly to make a point.

England losing has nothing to do with Maguire's leadership.

A true leader would make sure to anticipate any mistakes made and keep the defence in line. I assume you don't remember Rio Ferdinand playing alongside the like of Mickey Silvestre and constantly off form Wes Brown (due to injury) don't you?. Our defence improved drastically when Rio was in it and it nosedived the moment he got suspended. That's what a true leader and WC player can do in a meah defence. Not that I am suggesting that England's current defence is filled with hyped 70m rated defenders who aren't anywhere near to WC.

 

[roonster09]

A true leader would make sure to anticipate any mistakes made and keep the defence in line. I assume you don't remember Rio Ferdinand playing alongside the like of Mickey Silvestre and constantly off form Wes Brown don't you?

I remember Rio very well and I also remember us losing many games too. Wonder why Rio couldn't stop Vidic's brainfarts vs Liverpool.

 

[devilish]

I remember Rio very well and I also remember us losing many games too. Wonder why Rio couldn't stop Vidic's brainfarts vs Liverpool.

We're going in circles here are we? Just because you have a natural leader at the back that doesn't mean you won't lose games. There's a difference between losing a game and the defence ending into some sort of a parody. Regarding Vidic, well prime Torres was a force to reckon with. He was like playing against RVN or Henry. Neither current Holland nor Croatia have strikers of that level.

 

[roonster09]

We're going in circles here are we? Just because you have a natural leader at the back that doesn't mean you won't lose games. There's a difference between losing a game and the defence ending into some sort of a parody. Regarding Vidic, well prime Torres was a force to reckon with. He was like playing against RVN or Henry. Neither current Holland nor Croatia have strikers of that level.

Keep digging man.

 

[Sterling Archer]

If true that we're after both De Ligt and Maguire, that's fantastic. I trust Ole even more.

 

[DRM]

If true that we're after both De Ligt and Maguire, that's fantastic. I trust Ole even more.

We're not in for him, if you believe the press its between barca and psg

 

[FujiVice]

If true that we're after both De Ligt and Maguire, that's fantastic. I trust Ole even more.

We'd instantly have the best back four in the Premiership if we got:

Wan Bassaka---De Ligt----MaGuire----Shaw

Not hopefully obviously. That's dream world shit.

 

[Member 101269]

If true that we're after both De Ligt and Maguire, that's fantastic. I trust Ole even more.

De Ligt Maguire Wan-Bissaka and Shaw

 

[Kaglish10]

The alternatives that have been mentioned in the press are all pretty shit as heading the ball for what its worth. Their strengths all come from their ball playing skills which is better than Maguires.

Koulibaly, Alderweireld, Dias and Anderson all have less than 60% win rate for headers. As does Tuanzebe.

Who did you suggest we go for? We need a dominant defender to partner Lindelof. Eventhough I like Ferro because of his terrific passing skills and vision, I don't think he's this kind of dominant defender. He looks like a good tackler and also quite good in the air but there's something missing. He's not really aggressive. (I think Dias, his partner looks more like one but I don't fancy him because of other things).

If it were up to me, I will get Ferro and still look for another central defender to partner him.

 

[poleglass red]

He looks awkward cumbersome, and makes a lot of mistakes. Caf would hate him after a few months.

He certainly doesn't look awkward or cumbersome when he's running with the ball. I get what you are saying, he looks like he should be with his physique. He's had a tough hard season after a very good world cup. He's had a couple of shaky games in a row. I'm not sure about him myself, but fair dues to him, on the ball he's very good.

 

[AltiUn]

We'd instantly have the best back four in the Premiership if we got:

Wan Bassaka---De Ligt----MaGuire----Shaw

Not hopefully obviously. That's dream world shit.

But the best player there would be De Ligt and it seems fairly obvious we're not getting him. In all honest I'm still not convinced the back for you listed is as good as Liverpool's anyway.

 

[charlenefan]

We'd instantly have the best back four in the Premiership if we got:

Wan Bassaka---De Ligt----MaGuire----Shaw

Not hopefully obviously. That's dream world shit.

Nah man for man Liverpool's is better

 

[Zoo]

Howson was correct. He had Stone on his channel recently.