Harry Maguire (Out): Chelsea eyeing a shock swoop for Harry Maguire | Utd say not for sale

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Yagami said:
I don't give a shit about how much he's won.

He was one of the best players at the Euros and was let down by clowns. He was our best player in that season we made it to the Europa final and was again let down by clowns

Pep and Tuchel are two of the best managers in the world. They both rate Maguire. I'm not shocked because he's good and will win stuff there whilst we repaint our retirement home for the new folk.
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No, he wasn't. He had some good months after a horrid start that extended till we're out of the CL, he also still made a lot of errors even in his good period.

Harry Maguire will never win a major trophy in his career as a starting defender, you can quote me on that.
 

Still the most inexplicable piece of defending I have ever seen.
When he's under pressure, he panics. A terrible trait for a captain.
 
Eventually a very clever move by Chelsea. Chelsea buy the dip :D It’s perfect business to buy devaluated United players.

I expect United to receive max. £10m extra and I’m not surprised if United receive no money

Pulisic is a great player, but that kind of player (position) isn’t hard for Chelsea to replace. They’re probably more in need for a CB, which is hard to find theses days.

Pulisic will probably improve the team immediately and United will not suffer a lot if Maguire leave. Maguire doesn’t look happy here and maybe that’s why he struggles and doesn’t have a significant impact. I’m not surprised if Maguire gets a boost and becomes a success in Chelsea.

From a sport perspective a Pulisic - Maguire trade is a win win for all parts, but we have to expect and accept a £20m loss on Maguire.
 
Yagami said:
I don't give a shit about how much he's won.

He was one of the best players at the Euros and was let down by clowns. He was our best player in that season we made it to the Europa final and was again let down by clowns

Pep and Tuchel are two of the best managers in the world. They both rate Maguire. I'm not shocked because he's good and will win stuff there whilst we repaint our retirement home for the new folk.
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Saf bid for Celio Silva and gave game time to Prunier. He had a better eye for CB then Pep or Tuchel has.

It's always someone else's fault with Maguire. Yet we saw him play and he keeps making basic mistakes.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
In business point of view, Pulisic is still 23 years old, at that age, he has selling value in the future. Contrary to Maguire who is 29 years old.

In football point of view, conceded lot of goals with Maguire is no difference with conceded lot of goals without Maguire. While there is difference quality in Pulisic and Elanga.
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Fans just like a shiny new toy....Pulisic is quite injury prone and he is another one who wants to play from the left, there's a reason why we are going big for Antony when this option is available, he actually prefers the right giving he's left footed, Pulisic would just be much of muchness, injury prone and no better than what we have.
Plus this report is just the regular journo garbage, its only being discussed because Maguire isn't popular here.
 
His pace in the high line isn't the problem. The problem is that he's a poor one on one defender that sells himself short way too often.
 
devilish said:
Saf bid for Celio Silva and gave game time to Prunier. He had a better eye for CB then Pep or Tuchel has.

It's always someone else's fault with Maguire. Yet we saw him play and he keeps making basic mistakes.
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You can keep your head in the clouds all you want.

Fact is, top managers want him. Have wanted him for YEARS. No one else in our squad has Tuchel or Pep wanting them.
 
Nonsense, there’s no way on Gods Earth Chelsea would be interested in Maguire. He’d stick out like a sore thumb next to the likes of Koulibaly, Alonso and Azpilicueta.
 
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Alan Partridge said:
I shudder to think where all the fans’ hate and abuse will be directed if he does leave.
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De Gea, Rashford, Shaw etc etc

Plenty of hate to go around these days, don't you worry about that.

Everybody here wants a team rebuild but nobody actually has the balls to sell 1st team players to start that rebuild, so mediocrity it is for us until all these players contracts run out or retire.
 
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TheNewEra said:
I think Maguires a good defender I just think no functional midfield doesn't help him.

He has been caught out though of course.

The issue is the defense being dragged all over the place with players like Dalot at RB too. The biggest issue for me is he doesn't get enough goals at the other end from set pieces.

Varane was injured too much last season as another point.

Unless we are somehow going for Pau Torres to replace him, I don't see the point.

If a nice bid came up, to get a top CB in then sure. If not then I don't see why.
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The biggest issue with a centre back is never that they don't score enough!
Maguires issue is he keeps giving loads of goals away and I'd done for in one to one's pace wise.

Casemiro could only help though .
But high line and slow players is not a good mix.
 
Grande said:
To be quite honest with you, yes. You wrote things like ‘He's arguably the worst player i saw play for United’. If you claim that’s you trying to be truthful, I don’t believe you. You can call that condescending and cnutish, and if I’m wrong, and you never saw Massimo Taibi, William Prunier, Luke Chadwick, Bebe nor Alexander Büttner play for this club, or if you actually believe them to be better players than Harry Maguire, then I was condescending. But I don’t believe you, it’s true. I wrote a post against hyperboling and writing black/white condemnations, and you answered that with what to me is impossible to not see as more exaggeration and one-sidedness. If that was you being reflective and sincere, I’m in the wrong, but I don’t believe that. I’m guilty of acting boorish and overly serious, sure, but I don’t think I’m condescending when I say that, I believe I’m honest.
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Fine, even including the meme players you just posted - yes.

Harry Maguire is a worse player then all of the above put together.

There, i said it, and i'm not even joking.

He's a natural born LOSER.
He loses games. He lost games in every club he's ever played for, got relegated several times, lost crucial games with England and is continuing his path of destruction at United.

Get your rosy specks off and see the truth.

No amount of "progressive keepers" or "high lines" , "clowns in defense", crap you and the likes of you who defend this abomination of a player can hide the fact he's THE shittiest player ever to put on a Manchester United shirt.

There's no way of sugarcoating his poor play.

And he's not a young player who's gonna evolve and raise his game.....

He's a 29 year old who's only going to get worse.

The only thing keeping that man playing is his extraordinary ability to stay fit.
I'll give him that.
 
Yagami said:
You can keep your head in the clouds all you want.

Fact is, top managers want him. Have wanted him for YEARS. No one else in our squad has Tuchel or Pep wanting them.
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Actually I keep my head in front of the TV screen during the game. Thus I don't need anyone to do the thinking for me

Chelsea and City had never bid the silly money we did. They tend to have a huge staff turnover which means that if things go wrong with a signing then they will replace him few months later. That keeps risks to the minimum
 
We'll need a replacement but this solves so many issues. Honestly I don't buy it though, it's more than likely his agent leaking this on the defensive as he's about to be dropped.

He's simply a bad defender in anything other than a low block system. Ranks below Brown, Silvestre and Smalling for me.
 
devilish said:
Actually I keep my head in front of the TV screen during the game. Thus I don't need anyone to do the thinking for me

Chelsea and City had never bid the silly money we did. They tend to have a huge staff turnover which means that if things go wrong with a signing then they will replace him few months later. That keeps risks to the minimum
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How people can't see that no matter what talent people believe is there, he just can't do it under the guise of Manchester United captain is staggering at this point.

It is too heavy for him and there is too much shit on him now, he needs to go.
 
Trex said:
Fans just like a shiny new toy....Pulisic is quite injury prone and he is another one who wants to play from the left, there's a reason why we are going big for Antony when this option is available, he actually prefers the right giving he's left footed, Pulisic would just be much of muchness, injury prone and no better than what we have.
Plus this report is just the regular journo garbage, its only being discussed because Maguire isn't popular here.
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He might be injury prone but that's the only downside of this business. Did you not think other things why we should move on from Maguire??
  • What's the difference between conceded lot of goals with Maguire and conceded lot of goals without Maguire.
  • Is Pulisic an upgrade of Elanga? If we sign Antony, he's more likely going to be the RW starting XI rather than be Elanga's replacement as backup.
  • Pulisic played more as RW than LW. He can play both and still 23 years old means has selling value if we decide to sell him for not being good enough.
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/christian-pulisic/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/315779
  • Maguire is 29 years old and we have enough of 29 and 30ish years old players on this squad. If the offers come now, then that's the best age to cash in because by the time he's in his 30ish, we would get nothing like Matic and Mata. This allows us to balance our squad's age especially after signing Casemiro.
None of those points that I made above was related to fans want a shiny new toy. It's logical and fact.
 
devilish said:
And what exactly had Maguire won in his career? The guy got more clubs relegated than Cruyff won balon d'ors. You do notice that Chelsea are desperate to add a CB and currently lack a DOF with brains don't you? Lets hurry up before they get smarter.
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Some people would refuse to see the truth even if it smacks them in the face.

I would love if he goes and then we can enjoy his blunders at some other club.
 
It's probably for the best for both parties. He's done here, he has zero confidence and knows the fans don't have any faith in him. He's been a scapegoat for and symbol of the last year. Likewise, there's still a good player in there somewhere who can thrive in a back three at a stable club, just not here.

The real problem is it means we really need to commit to Martinez then and he's already shown himself to be a bit... short at times. We'd also need Varane to stay fit. Is it worth the risk? Possibly.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
He might be injury prone but that's the only downside of this business. Did you not think other things why we should move on from Maguire??
  • What's the difference between conceded lot of goals with Maguire and conceded lot of goals without Maguire.
  • Is Pulisic an upgrade of Elanga? If we sign Antony, he's more likely going to be the RW starting XI rather than be Elanga's replacement as backup.
  • Pulisic played more as RW than LW. He can play both and still 23 years old means has selling value if we decide to sell him for not being good enough.
    https://www.transfermarkt.com/christian-pulisic/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/315779
  • Maguire is 29 years old and we have enough of 29 and 30ish years old players on this squad. If the offers come now, then that's the best age to cash in because by the time he's in his 30ish, we would get nothing like Matic and Mata. This allows us to balance our squad's age especially after signing Casemiro.
None of those points that I made above was related to fans want a shiny new toy. It's logical and fact.
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If we sign Antony he takes the Greenwood spot, that would mean we rotate between him, and the English duo.
The fourth choice either Elanga or Garnacho would feature in cup fixtures, you think Pulisic is coming here for that?
 
It's bollocks Imo this story, Nobody wants Maguire were stuck with him and to his defence he's not as bad as people think he's still not good enough for UTD though . International level is a drop down from the Prem or CL even El in some extent so he does play well for England.

Swap deal for Pulisic can't see it Chelsea want rid, and they think UTD want rid of Maguire I'd swap him for Antony or a striker .
 
TheLord said:
I will forgive Chelsea for all their sins including dumping us past-their-prime Mata and Matic and even Lukaku (indirectly) if this deal goes through.

Addendum: I will also be convinced that Chelsea and Todd Boehly have very little forward thinking, so that's one less competitor to worry about for top prizes in the coming seasons.
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We’ve just gone and spent £20m on one teenaged midfielder from Villa, another £15m on another teenaged midfielder from Inter, £10m on a teenaged goalkeeper from MLS, and a couple more youngsters. Also heavily linked with 21 year olds Fofana and Anthony Gordon each for mega money.

I’d say Boehly is perhaps the most forward looking owner in Europe, mate! :D
 
Smores said:
We'll need a replacement but this solves so many issues. Honestly I don't buy it though, it's more than likely his agent leaking this on the defensive as he's about to be dropped.

He's simply a bad defender in anything other than a low block system. Ranks below Brown, Silvestre and Smalling for me.
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Yep, this is the same thing we've seen Rashford's camp doing a lot of times in the last year and a half any time he was heavily criticized.
 
Trex said:
If we sign Antony he takes the Greenwood spot, that would mean we rotate between him, and the English duo.
The fourth choice either Elanga or Garnacho would feature in cup fixtures, you think Pulisic is coming here for that?
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Your logic only makes sense if the English duo are as good as Salah and Mane, which having Elanga and Garancho would be just fine. The fact is they are struggling right now and need a competition, which something that Elanga or even Garnacho couldn't give them and that's why we need to upgrade Elanga. Pulisic would rather to come here that he thinks he has better chance to compete in here than at Chelsea now. Therefore, in business and football point of fews, if this actually happens losing 29 years old Maguire wouldn't make a difference and will allow us to cash in, while getting 23 years old Pulisic will upgrade Elanga and we can sell Pulisic for some cash in the future if we need to.
 
Yagami said:
You can keep your head in the clouds all you want.

Fact is, top managers want him. Have wanted him for YEARS. No one else in our squad has Tuchel or Pep wanting them.
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Wow, you've really got it bad for this guy, haven't you? Very bizarre, but fair play to you.
 
TheLord said:
I will forgive Chelsea for all their sins including dumping us past-their-prime Mata and Matic and even Lukaku (indirectly) if this deal goes through.
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Mata was 26. Matic was 28. Not our fault you couldn’t make it work with these two very good players, though I think Matic was very solid for you guys throughout his time at United.
 
Orc said:
We’ve just gone and spent £20m on one teenaged midfielder from Villa, another £15m on another teenaged midfielder from Inter, £10m on a teenaged goalkeeper from MLS, and a couple more youngsters. Also heavily linked with 21 year olds Fofana and Anthony Gordon each for mega money.

I’d say Boehly is perhaps the most forward looking owner in Europe, mate! :D
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Chelsea have also signed a number of England's most highly rated players in the younger age groups while we missed out on many of our similar targets at that level.

As for this story. I doubt it's true. Perhaps it has come from Chelsea to put pressure on Leicester over Fofana.
 
Polar said:
Eventually a very clever move by Chelsea. Chelsea buy the dip :D It’s perfect business to buy devaluated United players.

I expect United to receive max. £10m extra and I’m not surprised if United receive no money

Pulisic is a great player, but that kind of player (position) isn’t hard for Chelsea to replace. They’re probably more in need for a CB, which is hard to find theses days.

Pulisic will probably improve the team immediately and United will not suffer a lot if Maguire leave. Maguire doesn’t look happy here and maybe that’s why he struggles and doesn’t have a significant impact. I’m not surprised if Maguire gets a boost and becomes a success in Chelsea.

From a sport perspective a Pulisic - Maguire trade is a win win for all parts, but we have to expect and accept a £20m loss on Maguire.
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I reckon that's about right.

I think it makes sense to seriously consider moving Maguire out, for the reasons you mention and also because I think you have to remove some dominant figures from this squad if they're going to get out of the current funk. I like the idea of Pulisic on loan, but less sure about him as a major permanent acquisition.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
Your logic only makes sense if the English duo are as good as Salah and Mane, which having Elanga and Garancho would be just fine. The fact is they are struggling right now and need a competition, which something that Elanga or even Garnacho couldn't give them and that's why we need to upgrade Elanga. Pulisic would rather to come here that he thinks he has better chance to compete in here than at Chelsea now. Therefore, in business and football point of fews, if this actually happens losing 29 years old Maguire wouldn't make a difference and will allow us to cash in, while getting 23 years old Pulisic will upgrade Elanga and we can sell Pulisic for some cash in the future if we need to.
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You skipped out the addition of Antony. Ronaldo/replacement, Martial, Rashford, Sancho, Antony. That would be the front three senior options with Elanga, Pellistri and Garnacho as further depth.
Adding Pulisic to this is much of muchness.
 
Adisa said:
His pace in the high line isn't the problem. The problem is that he's a poor one on one defender that sells himself short way too often.
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Laugh at me if you want but AWB would be a better CB for us than Maguire. No lack of pace and good at one to one. Just a thought.
 
Trex said:
You skipped out the addition of Antony. Ronaldo/replacement, Martial, Rashford, Sancho, Antony. That would be the front three senior options with Elanga, Pellistri and Garnacho as further depth.
Adding Pulisic to this is much of muchness.
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What do you see as risk with those front options with the cost of selling 29 years old Maguire? I don't see it as risk, so I'm not sure why you see it as risk.
 
We'll need a replacement, not against him going though.

He's at a good age to sell, I don't see him getting any better here, only much worse quickly, I suspect physically he's one that peaks early and drops off massively approaching 30, already slow before but had enough to get by at ~27. If he's here he has to play with costing 80m and Mr England defender. It's a big millstone for the club like De Gea. Maguire at 31-32 is scary.

We should remember that United lost 4-0 to Brighton last season and he didn't start, it was Varane, Lindelof, Telles and Dalot. We have so many poorly playing defenders. Maguire has been very slow and clumsy for a long time and we saw it again at Brentford.

Perhaps if you have a fit enough side and strong midfield you can accommodate Harry and unitize his clearing heading ability.
 
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As for Maguire,boehly and tuchel won't go near him. If you are a betting man put your house on it. Maguire to chelsea won't happen.

His style totally opposite to what tuchel looking in defender. He is not agile, got panic when players closed down,passing is wayward and get reckless in tough situation.

If marina still in her post it could have happened. Sorry United fans it's not the case anymore. :)
 
Rajiztar said:
As for Maguire,boehly and tuchel won't go near him. If you are a betting man put your house on it. Maguire to chelsea won't happen.

His style totally opposite to what tuchel looking in defender. He is not agile, got panic when players closed down,passing is wayward and get reckless in tough situation.

If marina still in her post it could have happened. Sorry United fans it's not the case anymore. :)
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Please dont destroy the dream. Chelsea are buying him. Let me enjoy the idea until reality sets in and he will still be captain of Manchester United :(
 
Rajiztar said:
As for Maguire,boehly and tuchel won't go near him. If you are a betting man put your house on it. Maguire to chelsea won't happen.

His style totally opposite to what tuchel looking in defender. He is not agile, got panic when players closed down,passing is wayward and get reckless in tough situation.

If marina still in her post it could have happened. Sorry United fans it's not the case anymore. :)
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Stop ruining the fun. I choose to believe that it will happen.
 
He can't move. I've already named my fantasy team 'The Slabhead Express'. I've gone all in!

You are my slabhead
My only slabhead
 
Drawfull said:
I assumed he played CB because he's a better midfielder playing in defence than any CBs you've got.
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No he's been rubbish in defence. He plays in the team simply because he’s a big unit and that he plays in the EPL.
 
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