Yeah this! Let's just let these guys fight it out, destroy whatever they like and run riot in the streets! Why? Because the Greek police dared to arrest one of our players for his own actions
Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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His lawyer has denied all allegations.
Elite hipster centre backs vs Alleged Police assaulting wannabe centre backs.
You’re not worth my time on this subject. Waste someone else’s time.
Yes, it is, actually.
The right of self-defense:
Also called, when it applies to the defense of another, alter ego defense, defense of others, defense of a third person, is the right for people to use reasonable force or defensive force, for the purpose of defending one's own life (self-defense) or the lives of others, including –in certain circumstances– the use of deadly force
If a defendant uses defensive force because of a threat of deadly or grievous harm by the other person, or a reasonable perception of such harm, the defendant is said to have a "perfect self-defense" justification If the defendant uses defensive force because of such a perception, and the perception is not reasonable, the defendant may have an imperfect defense as an excuse.
Arguing with another member
Stop replying to me then you halfwit
Wonder if Maguire shouts out a particular phrase when he's angry,like "ITS SLABBER-HEAD TIME!" y'know similar to The Thing from the Fantastic Four.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice change of tune here. If Maguire is innocent then there's no problem & I take no issue with your comment but don't act like I'm disagreeing with you on that point. I have an issue with your comments that he was within his rights if he physically assaulted a police officer because that's just factually incorrect.
Exactly.They did. There was an article the other day about Rashford and Lingard being over there and having to be on alert and ready to leave in case Greece was added to the quarantine list as training begins Sept 1st. Maguire being in Greece isn’t the issue, him potentially smacking a police officer is
To some extent, whether this develops into a legitimate charge and court case is not the key issue. The key issue was Maguire, a star player and club captain at arguably the most high profile club in the world, putting himself into a situation where could even find himself arrested and charged. He shouldn't have been there in the first place or doing anything at all that might have harmed the reputation of the club and himself.
I am happy to assume his innocence with these charges, but still see him as having big questions to answer to as to his role at Old Trafford.
That's a deep Caf cut from the past.
It's Greek Island, they should have done a decathlon to sort out their differences.Yeah this! Let's just let these guys fight it out, destroy whatever they like and run riot in the streets! Why? Because the Greek police dared to arrest one of our players for his own actions
I mean, people, we have a massive thread in the Current Events forum about police in the US and UK doing a terrible job, being unecessarily agressive with people during interactions and there are even poeple in this thread who've posted content in there turning on Maguire...because Greece, the second most corrupt country in the EU suddenly has police who are beyond reproach? Not to mention the attention this stuff has received world wide since the death of George Floyd.
Come the feck on. Let's wait for more information to come out before we pass judgement on one of our own players.
Come the feck on. Let's wait for more information to come out before we pass judgement on one of our own players.
No, it's not. That's in the case of self defence when you believe your life is in danger. Unless you're saying that Maguire expected he and his friends to be murdered by the police officers and was therefore in his rights to attack an officer(s)?
Also good of you to omit this bit which would clearly have been in effect on this occasion: The rule that the defendant can rely on any honest belief is altered where the defendant has consumed alcohol or drugs.
Oh, it's also interesting that you're quoting English law for a Greek crime, you do know that the law changes dependant on where you are and not where you're born right?
Oh Harry. What a silly thing to do as a captain. Pogba is trending in relation to this too 
Apparently he was tackled to the ground after trying to out-run the police.
Hearing that the CCTV footage has been reviewed and we’ve been awarded a penalty. Bruno is currently en route to Greece take take the penalty.
Hearing that the CCTV footage has been reviewed and we’ve been awarded a penalty. Bruno is currently en route to Greece take take the penalty.
"We were just practising for the pankration."
It’s Ok unless he’s not injured. Harry is a big boy and have head on his shoulders.
This is an odd take, you act like he's been caught in a drug den or something.
"Are you enquiring for a Maguiring?" *fists up, bouncing back and forth*
Poor form by Maguire, not just the assault, hanging around large groups of celebrities, drunken disorderly, bad example to set.
From what I’ve been told Rashford and Williams are also on holiday there. Hopefully they’re not involved as well.
They were with him during the day, but not there at night.
I can't grasp this. I'm sure footballers are subject to all sorts of shit which is totally unfair and especially where nightlife is involved but how is a professional athlete, earning millions a year even arriving in these situations during what is essentially a very short recovery break. Surely they just book into high end resorts with privacy and lessen the chances of this type of stuff. I don't like too much reactionism but if he actually verbally abused and hit a police officer as reported, I would prefer him to lose the captaincy. Might give him extra incentive to improve, solskjaer and opportunity to show some ruthlessness and we have other candidates.
If the head doesn't fit, you must acquit.
Getting a bit of continental experience the hard way eh Harry?
Attempted bribery of an employee? Eh? What?
Oh Harry. What a silly thing to do as a captain. Pogba is trending in relation to this too
I mean, you have to ask where Pogba was tbh and why he wasn’t covering his captain.
Agreed with all the above
Over in the U.S. we call that a "tip" but ok Greeks.
That's what comes with being a high profile figure where a massive amount of your value to your organisation is tied up in your reputation and sponsorship opportunities.
If you don't want to deal with the fall out of a drunken night, don't go out for a drunken night in the first place. Being an elite athlete isn't a 9-5 job, it's a 24/7 vocation.
In 1990 I was quite the party animal so yes is the answer. I didn't see the need to tell everyone that I won two World Wars and one World Cup though.
Maybe that explains it.
Should we review his captaincy role after this? We have Bruno who can fill that role for us. This doesn't sound good at all.
By the way shame he couldn't outrun the police.
By the way shame he couldn't outrun the police.
Him playing for Leicester probably wasn't used to all the fuss, joke aside I agree, very poor judgement, he seem like a genuinely nice fella, probably not used to the high life as such! Also all those people crowding, not exactly the brightest thing to do in a pandemic with so short time to start overall not exactly captain choices any of these!
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