Errrm, why? Pogba has not got a captain's bone in his body. Been there, done that, it failed.
i agree with this. As mad as it sounds it has to be Bruno next if we were to switch and think about it. over the last 6 years have we brought in or let go of any leader types? Just Herrera untill Ole brought in maguire and Bruno....
Imagine waiting in a cell for Woodward to pay the bribery fee. He will be in a Greek cell 6 months deep by the time Ed picks up the phone.
Feck he will come home fat with a Greek accent.
We could call him ‘my big fat Greek centre back’
So, more witnesses, and not just couple of cops?From Efsyn, one of Greece's biggest newspapers:
I imagine more details will come out soon.
ah well once Fern says so its must be true - who the feck is Fern Hawkins?
I don't recall worse. Fights can happen but bribery shouldn't sit well with anyone what an idiot. He can't remain captain after this as simple as thatWe've had previous captains do worse than this. Why the clamour to strip him of captaincy?
Who are you like fecking Al Capone?
No way, I would not strip the captaincy until the judgement goes into the appeal at the very least, and hopefully the lawyers fight this. And this is normal: no legal process is final until you've been through all the appeals. And this time, I hope the defense present the proofs they have properly.When?
You’re literally claiming this to be something that would occur if you went out on the lash regularly, leading to a simple slap on the wrist etc. . You couldn’t normalise the aggravated assault and bribery more if you tried.
I mean I know you’re saying it mostly in jest, or at least I hope , but I don’t think it’s right to play it down as a nothingness/every night on the lash occurrence.
The charges are serious, and should be treated as such. It may well be that something dodgy is at play here, but we have to take the guilty verdict right now and he has to be punished by the club accordingly, until any other evidence/developments arise. When/if they do then he can be handed back captaincy etc.
But until that moment, as a club, they can’t disrespect the judicial system of another country and effectively accuse them of lying by not punishing Maguire as if he is 100% guilty.
Or they could have just accepted a hefty bribe and heard nothing more of it? No publicity, nothing.Obviously a sham trial and off the scale levels of corruption, no surprise in that part of the world.
No doubt the boozed up group including Harry did some shitty things, after scumbags drugged his sister which mitigates it quite a bit. Then some scummy bent police turned up and failed to handle it properly. The court then promptly cover up for the police's failings. They get a nice fat payday to round it off. The end.
"Clear set up." What utter delusion. Print your t-shirt.Are you a little hard of thinking to equate a racism charge in England, to a clear set up abroad?
How?
ah well once Fern says so its must be true - who the feck is Fern Hawkins?
"Clear set up." What utter delusion. Print your t-shirt.
Or what if the fabricated it to create the heaviest penalties, and then use their weird system of converting it into heavy fines to get paid?Can't be that corrupt as they didn't even take Harrys bribes!
Do they do it Greek in Greek prisons? What’s pass the soap in Greek?
I think he is guilty of everything he has been charged with and can imagine it happening, when he was drunk and in a highly emotional state.This is just such a horrific look. As a club, we’d been fantastic throughout this pandemic, and then our club captain goes and does this.
Question the veracity of the Greek judicial system all you please, it doesn’t make this any less scandalous from Maguire.
I have never once mentioned anything in relation to what you’re now spewing. Deary me. Talk about moving the goalposts. Show me where I’m discussing the verdict and time taken to reach it, rather than discussing you claiming that assault is part and parcel of any Friday/Saturday night out on the lash.Honestly have a word with yourself.
You really think you can prove aggravated assault and bribery in a one day trial?
Some of yous have your panties in a bunch over nothing.
There's a huge difference between believing a black man when he says he's been the victim of racist abuse and believing a copper when he says he's been hit by a professional footballer.The same people who were laughing at Liverpool fans with Suarez years ago are probably the same now saying "He's been stitched up!"
Loads of his ex-team mates etc, most notably Rio, has said he isn't this nice guy everyone thinks he is because he has a babyface.
Just look at how he's dealt with players he didn't want at the club. There's no reason to believe he's a nice guy who doesn't lay down the law.
Are you a United fan? Is this aggressive view you have down to the fact he’s English? Some people are so transparent..."Clear set up." What utter delusion. Print your t-shirt.
Agree. Harry should have been more sensible, but the way the trial has been held is disgusting. I think they have made sure no rich footballers will be going there again.Thinking Maguire behaved terribly and saying the trial was a shame are not mutual exclusive.
Just look at the details and process of the case. His guilt or not is irrelevant because the process was nonsense and likely corrupt.
What's the difference? Why would you believe one more over the other? Specifically Evra - Maguire scenario, or in all of them (different players)?There's a huge difference between believing a black man when he says he's been the victim of racist abuse and believing a copper when he says he's been hit by a professional footballer.
Possibly although Fergie had to personal go to the station in order to pick Keane up after he was arrested for allegedly kicking a woman. I'm pretty this happened on the same week as the FA Cup final in 99.Ha ha!
Maguire should not have even allowed himself to be in that situation. Absolute stupidity. And it shows the players don't have anywhere near the same fear/respect they did with Fergie.
Ole will have to start laying down the law. Mr nice guy won't be enough to manage this situation. I wonder if he has it in his locker?
It's literally 10 times more likely that the police were working with the scumbags who attacked his sister. They're genuinely that bad.
Or what if the fabricated it to create the heaviest penalties, and then use their weird system of converting it into heavy fines to get paid?
It’s entirely possible they are. Why is that so hard to believe? We have two police officers word against Maguire who is claiming they hit him. According to the defence there is video showing Maguire being mistreated at the station. The request to delay for this evidence to be reviewed was rejected. The defence were only told two hours before the hearing what the charges were that they were defending against. The entire thing sounds like a bit of a sham.
Pogba !!!! Are you joking , Pogba is not a leader and never will be and has never shown leadership in any match I have seen.just give that captaincy to Paul Pogba...just do it..this has been too much pressure on Harry
So you’ve gone from “just a typical night out” to “well you can’t prove it anyway “Honestly have a word with yourself.
You really think you can prove aggravated assault and bribery in a one day trial?
Some of yous have your panties in a bunch over nothing.
People just casually brush over his sister maybe have been injected with a daterape drug