Pretty much my feeling. He turned around what seemed the impossible but doesn't hide the fact that he shouldn't be given a new contract.
5
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 16
- Clean sheets
- 5
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 4
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
Pretty much my feeling. He turned around what seemed the impossible but doesn't hide the fact that he shouldn't be given a new contract.
And people want him to stay. Please let him go to serie A and look dominant there
He cares, it is clear, he is trying hard and winning most duels in the air but that is not enough. He has been here for a long time. We know for a fact that he isn`t the player we need.
I thought he was ok. Tried at least and you saw it.
Absolutely. I'm expecting us at the very least to exercise the option though. I wouldn't personally but that's just my view.
Quality control
Casuals once again exposing their complete lack of football knowledge. The Maguire thread is always one of the go-to threads for this purpose.
But I guess if you claimed Martínez was "far and above him" just 4 months ago and laughed at me for basically claiming the opposite, maybe you're reluctant not to push certain agendas.
But I guess if you claimed Martínez was "far and above him" just 4 months ago and laughed at me for basically claiming the opposite, maybe you're reluctant not to push certain agendas.
Come on Rojo, you are the king of agendas, being on favor or against a certain player
I think he was one of the very few who was attempting forward passes to Amad.
Those aren't agendas for me. If I'm proven wrong I'll gladly admit it. I think Maguire is one of the most suited players out there for this CCB position in Amorim's system and I believe he's one of the most underrated players in the last decade, considering the general opinion on him. I'll keep fighting the horde regarding Maguire.He's our best CB. Make of that what you will..
Obsessions??
Our best CB nowadays, by some distance, which is a little sad to see (much as I like Maguire himself). Think he and De Ligt have to play as much as possible and then figure out the third one match by match.
De Ligt is no better than Maguire, and the only reason anyone can be saying so must surely only be based on his performances for Ajax or just the fact he's new and so still carrying some of that new signing magic..
Agree with this, he regularly looks for forward passes, De Ligt on the other hand far too often looks to pass sideways or backwards.
Obsessions??
Sometimes.
I don't get the love in for De Ligt personally. Found him to be really underwhelming.
What does de Ligt even have over Maguire?
The latter is miles ahead of him in the build-up (progressive passing, ball carrying, providing calmness in the build-up (which is funnily enough often seen as a negative thing by posters who want him not to take a lot of time on the ball) ), is a lot more dominant in the air, and is much better at pinning down opposition attackers and agressively intercepting opposition passes by stepping into the midfield at times.
They're both relatively slow and as a result, cannot defend the wide channels against any pacey attacker, and maybe I'll give de Ligt the edge if we compare their mobility. But what else?
Maguire seems to clearly be the superior profile of the two, despite the similarities.
De Ligt has simply always been a better footballer than Maguire and it's been true this season too.
It has?
I've found him to be quite a tame cb.
His development hasn't gone anywhere since his Golden Boy days at Ajax. It has arguably deteriorated at this point.
Can you tell me what's de Ligt been better at than Maguire, especially considering you think he's always been better? Is it FIFA ratings and FM stats?
I think he's a better defender and he's better on the ball, more decisive, quicker to move the ball around, and I just trust him more at attacking set pieces. Just as an all around player I think he's better in every department than Maguire who is still pretty average at best even with his improvement.
De Ligt is calmer on the ball, more mobile and more aggressive than Maguire. Definitely not having that Maguire is a better player.
Maguire will never be the answer in a team trying to play on the front foot.
Maguire will never be the answer in a team trying to play on the front foot.
Maguire is just as bad as he ever was, now the whole team have caught up with him.
Did well today overall. Could have done better for the first goal to stick to Isak but otherwise he was ok.
One of our better defenders at the moment.
One of our better defenders at the moment.
When he played as a three for England wasn't he the left sided one? I'm sure he wasn't central and the left side allowed him to charge forward with the ball without the risk of being fully exposed. Surprising we are having him in the middle
His positioning for Isak's goal was perfectly fine, if you want our defenders to have contact with the attacker when the crosses come into the box you will complain when they get in front of the defender and have a clear header on goal. If that cross doesn't get deflected Maguire is in total control, there's no way Isak gets in front to meet the cross and if the ball goes over Maguire then it would be out of reach for Isak as well.
It looks stupid when an attacker gets a free header that close to the goal, but some things, like deflections, is almost impossible to defend.
De Ligt is considerably more athletic. Agility, speed.
He may have played at CCB on occasions but you're right, the first choice back 3 was Walker at RCB, Stones CCB and Maguire LCB.
Unfortunately this is true. We have become so average, his shortcomings have become normal
Contract extension talk here: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/maguires-redemption-one-year-option-triggered.484286/
Please use that and leave this thread for performance.
Please use that and leave this thread for performance.