You can say the above for any other player in the squad. We’ll see soon if Maguire is poor due to coaching or if he’s just naturally not good enough for a team with CL qualification aspirations.
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He didn't look very good for England in the nation's league.
Absolutely shite in fact.
Agreed with you on this case, mate.
You'd think that modern players could just pay someone c£40k a year to act as a 'moral advisor', to stop ambiguous posts/acts like this adding to an already well-stoked fire!
We all want players to be honest and open, not peddling the same old "we're taking it one game at a time" lines. In certain cases though, players really need to be helped from themselves.
We all want players to be honest and open, not peddling the same old "we're taking it one game at a time" lines. In certain cases though, players really need to be helped from themselves.
For Harry, he might as well never do or say anything in public if he starts taking into consideration fans who’ll just look for absolutely any reason to hate him, even when there is none.
I think what has a lot of people worried is the fact that ETH's style is very different to Southgate and that his strength's are more suited to the latter's than ETH's. When I think of Maguire's strengths, I think "big, strong and aerially dominant CB"
ETH's seems to prefer mobile CBs that can deal with being pressed with a lot of technical ability and height doesn't seem to be an important consideration for him. Think of De Ligt, Blind, Martinez and Timber. Only De Ligt is tall and his best form at Ajax didn't come from hugging his teammates and heading away balls in the box.
I’m sorry but Cristiano Ronaldo has never spared a second thought for anybody that isn’t, well, Cristiano Ronaldo.
Is there a possibility that Maguire plays RCB paired with a new LCB signing?
Varane and Lindelof as backup.
Varane and Lindelof as backup.
Very likely if Varane continues to be unreliable.
I’d say that’s the most likely scenario.
If we are going for a setup without a out and out DM then I have a hard time seing Maguire in the starting line up. Our defenders need to be press resistant and he is the opposite of that.
Maguire is top 5 defensive headers in the league. ETH didnt need that in holland, but there is a good chance he will need that in the premiership, especially if another centre back is tiny ala martinez.
Maguire is also an incredible long passer, which some sides would make good use of, although not clear that ETH will have a use for it if he wants a more patient build up style.
Maguire is also an incredible long passer, which some sides would make good use of, although not clear that ETH will have a use for it if he wants a more patient build up style.
But Varane and Lindelof aren't?
Not the biggest fan of Harry but I will always root for our players to turn it around and I have high hopes he can do so under Ten Hag.
I dont think Lindelöf is press resistant either. Varane under a proper coach again will be good for us.
My guess is that we will use Varane and Martinez.
I've seen nothing in Varane to suggest he's anything more than average on the ball but his biggest issue is he can't stay fit. I'd rather have a dependable partnership available most games whichever two it is.
Varane at his best is a fantastic defender. I am hoping Ten Hags coaching can get that back. His injuries last season where concerning.
Maguire at his best is a fantastic defender. I am hoping Ten Hags coaching can get that back. His loss of form last season where concerning.
Does Ten Hag ever play a 3 at the back?
Very good defender on his day. We need him to be consistent and reliable again. last season wasnt good enough.
While many of us wanted to see the back of Maguire, I don't think Erik would irrationally pick him if he continues to be a liability. Either he improves and we get a good CB in form, or he continues being shite and you'd imagine the manager would drop him.
With Martinez hopefully coming in, I don't think Maguire has the luxury anymore of being shite and still expecting to be a nailed on starter.
With Martinez hopefully coming in, I don't think Maguire has the luxury anymore of being shite and still expecting to be a nailed on starter.
Maybe so, but that's not what the article said that everyone is making a big deal about
Yes, he did so at Utrecht and in his last Ajax game, I believe.
In fact, even when it's said 4-3-3 on the team sheet, he often used 3 at the back in the build up.
Is he fit? Heard some reports he has a knock.
“But he is an established captain for a few years and he has achieved a lot of success, so I don't doubt about this issue.”
That's a bit of a head scratcher.
Indeed it is. But now 3 managers has chosen him, so maybe he is the best one for the job
Great day for the club indeed.
All the twitter rumours were buried today, the Maguire captaincy was never in doubt and now he can focus on going back to his best form.
Great decision by ETH.
All the twitter rumours were buried today, the Maguire captaincy was never in doubt and now he can focus on going back to his best form.
Great decision by ETH.
I don’t really care who is captain, as long as the captain is not an automatic starter.
Very optimistic, I just don't see anything changing with him.
If we don't address the centre back position properly our goal difference won't be any better this season. How can we start next season without addressing the biggest glaring issue the club has faced? I was hopeful Pau Torres was going to be signed but I haven't heard anything on that front.
Martinez isn't the answer a 175cm defender, maybe as a DM but not as a centre back.
Harry Maguire is going to have an incredible season and be up there with the best defenders of the league, if not the best by the end of the season.
That is my prediction and I'm confident it will happen. With a manager that has a brain, I have no doubt how good Maguire can be. Quote me on this in a few months.
That is my prediction and I'm confident it will happen. With a manager that has a brain, I have no doubt how good Maguire can be. Quote me on this in a few months.
Clearly, ETH has done no research on Maguire.
Taking away the captaincy would simply placate certain sections of the fanbase, it’s irrelevant. If he plays well he’ll keep his place, if he doesn’t then he’ll no longer be captain by default.
All we know is that when he starts he’ll walk out first. EtH won’t suffer his poor form.
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Great! And put him in your fantasy team if you want those thundering headers to count as points!
I genuinely hope you’re proved right & me wrong. I tend to go fullbacks in defence for my fantasy teams though.
I hope so; I really don’t think there’s a problem with his ability. His lack of agility might be an issue.
ETH seems like the sort of manager who won’t take kindly to players who are unwilling or unable to follow their instructions. My only real doubt about Maguire is whether he’ll be able to do that; he seems rather a stubborn type. People from his part of the world tend to be
I hope so; I really don’t think there’s a problem with his ability. His lack of agility might be an issue.
ETH seems like the sort of manager who won’t take kindly to players who are unwilling or unable to follow their instructions. My only real doubt about Maguire is whether he’ll be able to do that; he seems rather a stubborn type. People from his part of the world tend to be
And one that will seem very prominent in a haphazard team with a leaky midfield.
I'd like to think it's not that he's stubborn but never had a good coach. I feel our tactical maturity will cover up his lack of agility. If he has the platform to just defend and contribute with his ball playing ability he's gonna be a real asset.
Fair enough. I agree it's a defect that can likely be worked around.
He's more than decent on the ball, certainly. It's his decision making in progressing play that's his weakness. Can that be fixed with decent coaching?* I'd like to think so; I just don't get the impression he'd be a very willing student. I may be completely wrong of course!
*Edit: one thing that should immediately improve his dodgy decision making is to make his life easier by having midfielders who actually want the ball.
Side note but some people seem to be treating the news that Maguire will stay on as captain as a sign he's guaranteed to play, which isn't the case. Not every manager has that LVG "my captain shall always play" mentality. Just look at Liverpool, where Henderson has been kept as captain since 2015 but has still had extended spells where he wasn't part of the first choice eleven.
Which isn't to say he won't be first choice, even if someone like Martinez signs and Maguire ends up competing with Varane for the RCB slot. But if he's not part of our first eleven then being club captain doesn't then become some sort of problem. Plenty of club captains aren't guaranteed starters week in week out.
Which isn't to say he won't be first choice, even if someone like Martinez signs and Maguire ends up competing with Varane for the RCB slot. But if he's not part of our first eleven then being club captain doesn't then become some sort of problem. Plenty of club captains aren't guaranteed starters week in week out.
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