[LARulz]

Did he give a post match interview? I've not seen one but I swear he never gives one as captain, only when we win wanking himself off as the reason the team one

 

[amolbhatia50k]

He has to go. Not only has he become a laughing stock but he creates nervousness in the team when he plays.

 

[kouroux]

It will take some PR excellency to spin this positively

 

[Cnaiür urs Skiötha]

Like I said elsewhere:

De Gea's pass was not great, but the goal is 90% on Maguire. It started with him taking too much time before giving the ball back to de Gea. Then he did not run in de Gea's direction to receive the ball so Sevilla had enough time and space to get in shape for the press. And he is just so slow and not mobile enough that he has poor decision making when under press. And opposition teams absolutely realize this and get something out of him every time.

How there is even a discussion if he is good enough or we should keep him is beyond me. Nothing against the person and all the best to him, nobody should receive abuse for not being very good at kicking a ball around.

 

[Acole9]

On one of our corners when Sevilla tried to counter, watching him trying to run back...what a donkey.

 

[kouroux]

Like I said elsewhere:

De Gea's pass was not great, but the goal is 90% on Maguire. It started with him taking too much time before giving the ball back to de Gea. Then he did not run in de Gea's direction to receive the ball so Sevilla had enough time and space to get in shape for the press. And he is just so slow and not mobile enough that he has poor decision making when under press. And opposition teams absolutely realize this and get something out of him every time.

How there is even a discussion if he is good enough or we should keep him is beyond me. Nothing against the person and all the best to him, nobody should receive abuse for not being very good at kicking a ball around.

And you didn't even cover the fact that his pass was basically on the ground. Proper crazy football

 

[Semper Fudge]

He basically is. Every game he starts

He didn’t get near the team when our first choice CBs and Shaw were fit.

 

[Gandalf Greyhame]

For the sake of everyone, please go. Just go away.

 

[Alonzo]

The nerve of this guy to say “i have nothing to prove”. The new Phil Jones, minus the self awareness, talent, or excuse of being injury prone. Scandalous if he’s still here next season

 

[Devil81]

Why didn't he just put De Gea's bad pass into the stands and issue him a good b*llocking!!

That's what a captain does, instead he costs us the game inside the first ten minutes.

 

[RedBanker]

Terminate contract /release on a free.

 

[Mwooyo]

Did he give a post match interview? I've not seen one but I swear he never gives one as captain, only when we win wanking himself off as the reason the team one

Exactly...maguire is not fit to be the captain. This dude hides when things are bad. If he gives an interview it is to blow his own trumpet. I dont know how so many fans see this dude as worth keeping next season, he should be the first one out the door

 

[Glorio]

That annoying, frivolous stat the press kept going on about "United have not lost any game Maguire has started" is thankfully over.

 

[NK86]

He has to go. Not only has he become a laughing stock but he creates nervousness in the team when he plays.

The nervousness is absolutely palpable. Unfortunately we have to tolerate it this season. I hope he is the first one out the door along with DDG and Sancho when the transfer window opens.

Shaw too suffers from keeping his head in high pressure matches but at least he has quality the remaining times, but those three above seem to have the weakest mentality currently in our team.

We desperately need more winners in the team who know what it takes to win the crucial moments. Half our team crumbles when they find themselves at the business end of a tournament.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Upamecano esque. Biggest reason why we are knocked out

 

[roonster09]

Upamecano esque. Biggest reason why we are knocked out

Biggest is De Gea, Maguire is second biggest.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Biggest is De Gea, Maguire is second biggest.

Not even close. Maguire's og (bad luck or not) cost us a win in first game. In second game, he killed morale and any momentum with gifting early first goal.
And it is funny how his mistakes are always "shared". De Gea, Varane, Lindelof, Shaw....it is always someone.

 

[Pirlo'sBeard]

Upamecano esque. Biggest reason why we are knocked out

Unfair comparison. Upamecano was actually having a great season until the City game and is relatively young.

Maguire is just completely useless. Slow, rash decision making, ponderous, lacks leadership, positionally terrible and causes anxiety in the team anytime he plays. This is our supposed captain.

 

[roonster09]

Not even close. Maguire's og (bad luck or not) cost us a win in first game. In second game, he killed morale and any momentum with gifting early first goal.
And it is funny how his mistakes are always "shared". De Gea, Varane, Lindelof, Shaw....it is always someone.

Wtf are you even talking about. First goal should be shared between the chuckle brothers and his role in 2nd and 3rd goal is hilarious.

Apart from all that, him being glued to line is a big problem for every single set piece.

After that performance, I don't know how anyone can say De Gea wasn't the biggest reason is beyond me.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Wtf are you even talking about. First goal should be shared between the chuckle brothers and his role in 2nd and 3rd goal is hilarious.

Apart from all that, him being glued to line is a big problem for every single set piece.

After that performance, I don't know how anyone can say De Gea wasn't the biggest reason is beyond me.

Yeah pathetic to suggest that DDG wasn't to be blamed for the first goal. He has a better view and could have used his head to make better judgement. I would say DDG shares bigger blame for this.

 

[zenith]

Maguire is diabolically bad. My God he's terrible. Why on earth did he call for the pass when he cannot handle the press. The opposition knows at this time that he's a nervous wreck and can't handle himself.

We will be lucky to get 30 million out of him. Jeez what a write off and what's most annoying is that he's not modest either and thinks no end of himself. In that way he gives me jlingz vibes.

Terrible, just terrible

 

[roonster09]

Yeah pathetic to suggest that DDG wasn't to be blamed for the first goal. He has a better view and could have used his head to make better judgement. I would say DDG shares bigger blame for this.

Exactly, he had full view of the pitch. "Maguire asked for the ball" is such a weak response, players calls for the pass 100 times only to be ignored by the player in possession as they see what's behind the player who is asking for the ball.

De gea was at fault and Maguire too for the first goal. It's not even first time this season that De Gea randomly decided to play high risk pass.

 

[DickDastardly]

After that performance, I don't know how anyone can say De Gea wasn't the biggest reason is beyond me.

Easy.
De Gea wasn't the biggest reason.

He plays the same past to Martinez the whole season. Have we conceded a goal like that from his mistake? No.

The same pass gets played by a possession based team every game at least 10 times.
Ederson or Allison play the same pass 20 times in a game if pressed the same way.

You take Harry out of the equation, you've just put 3 of Sevillas players out with a simple turn, or a pass.

It's the way today's football is played.
Ball playing goalkeepers and ball playing center backs.

Yes, DDG isn't a ball playing GK, but that pass was a perfectly fine pass.
The kind you want him to play.

 

[Loon]

Luke Shaw inspires more confidence in the team when he plays CB. Says it all. I thought this guy would be a solid, if unremarkable, CB when he signed, like a Cahill. He's not even that. He needs to play in a defence more suited to him, and we need to get a decent figure for him. Both big asks.

 

[roonster09]

Easy.
De Gea wasn't the biggest reason.

He plays the same past to Martinez the whole season. Have we conceded a goal like that from his mistake? No.

The same pass gets played by a possession based team every game at least 10 times.
Ederson or Allison play the same pass 20 times in a game if pressed the same way.

You take Harry out of the equation, you've just put 3 of Sevillas players out with a simple turn, or a pass.

It's the way today's football is played.
Ball playing goalkeepers and ball playing center backs.

Yes, DDG isn't a ball playing GK, but that pass was a perfectly fine pass.
The kind you want him to play.

We conceded goal vs Brentford in the exact same way. Just because Licha was very skillful to avoid the press once doesn't mean it's a good pass.

Players like Ederson, Alisson would have casually played the lofted pass to FBs or a man who is free without breaking a sweat.

You don't have to pass the ball to CB all the time, De Gea does it because he is so poor at picking the free man who is 20-25 yards away from him.

When there are 3 Sevilla players surrounding Maguire then it means at least couple of players who had enough space, i didn't check replay but from what i remember FBs were free.

 

[ManRed]

Luke Shaw inspires more confidence in the team when he plays CB. Says it all. I thought this guy would be a solid, if unremarkable, CB when he signed, like a Cahill. He's not even that. He needs to play in a defence more suited to him, and we need to get a decent figure for him. Both big asks.

At the moment i dont even care for a fee. Similar to Pogba and lingard he is another soul s**king virus who needs to leave the club immediately.

 

[Barthez]

Can see him ending up at a club like West Ham

 

[Oranges038]

The pass was accurate and not on the wrong side if you look at the position of the opponents players. There was also plenty of time, space and options for him to deal with. He could have simply let the ball running through there was no one behind him. Or pass the ball to the space between Lindelof and the half line. Or simply pass it back to DDG.

He just fecked up and tbh imo it's a bit daft to blame DDG in this situation.

The passs was "accurate", but that's not really the problem, it's the quality of that pass that is. Just kicking the ball at him does not make it a good pass.

Pass should have been zipped out to his left foot so he could turn into the space first time. It was slow, bobbly and to his wrong side. Maguire actually had to check his movement to try and deal with it. Put any amount of players in there and they will struggle to come out of there with the ball.

This is exactly the sort of finer detail that makes the difference between fcuking up and conceding a goal and just about beating that press and taking those 3 players out of the game. People can blame Maguire all they like, but if I'm Maguire I'd be giving that cnut an absolute ear full for putting me in the shit like that.

 

[roonster09]

He has to go. Not only has he become a laughing stock but he creates nervousness in the team when he plays.

Yeah, the moment he steps on the pitch he brings the team level down. He is a nervous wreck, always does something silly which gives momentum back to opponents. Unsettles the defense all the time.

Even if we had one more fit CB he should be benched and shouldn't play a single min.

 

[roonster09]

The passs was "accurate", but that's not really the problem, it's the quality of that pass that is. Just kicking the ball at him does not make it a good pass.

Pass should have been zipped out to his left foot so he could turn into the space first time. It was slow, bobbly and to his wrong side. Maguire actually had to check his movement to try and deal with it. Put any amount of players in there and they will struggle to come out of there with the ball.

This is exactly the sort of finer detail that makes the difference between fcuking up and conceding a goal and just about beating that press and taking those 3 players out of the game. People can blame Maguire all they like, but if I'm Maguire I'd be giving that cnut an absolute ear full for putting me in the shit like that.

Tbf Maguire could have easily played the pass back to De Gea. It was mistake by both of chuckle brothers. Problem with Maguire is, he is shit but he thinks he is some great ball playing CB.

Oh anyone wondering, no Lindelof isn't a chuckle brother, it's Maguire and De Gea.

 

[zenith]

Lindelof and shaw for the rest of the season please. Malacia and Dalot can handle the lb position amongst themselves

 

[Loon]

Yeah, the moment he steps on the pitch he brings the team level down. He is a nervous wreck, always does something silly which gives momentum back to opponents. Unsettles the defense all the time.

Even if we had one more fit CB he should be benched and shouldn't play a single min.

Essentially, I see him as one of the players the Sevilla guy referred to in that press con when he said they could smell the fear.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

The passs was "accurate", but that's not really the problem, it's the quality of that pass that is. Just kicking the ball at him does not make it a good pass.

Pass should have been zipped out to his left foot so he could turn into the space first time. It was slow, bobbly and to his wrong side. Maguire actually had to check his movement to try and deal with it. Put any amount of players in there and they will struggle to come out of there with the ball.

This is exactly the sort of finer detail that makes the difference between fcuking up and conceding a goal and just about beating that press and taking those 3 players out of the game. People can blame Maguire all they like, but if I'm Maguire I'd be giving that cnut an absolute ear full for putting me in the shit like that.

This post typifies his United career perfectly.

It’s always ‘the finer details’, was the pass to him good enough? His first touch would have been better if. . . etc.

We’re in 2023 & people are still having to forensically dissect his actions. Had he not messes up there, he’d have found some way to mess up later, surely people can see that by now.

Arguing over whether he or DdG should shoulder most blame is the problem. Neither are good enough. DdG would play that exact same pass to a Martinez & it’s only Martinez’s ability that would make it ok, that’s still DdG being crap. Same as a better goalkeeper would fire balls in at Maguire & he’d struggle to compose himself at some point.

Finer details are he’s never been good enough & anyone trying to claim he was at any point, I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[united for life]

If he leaves, and I hope he does leave, we will be better off. But I also believe that him leaving will be the best thing for him. He needs to go to a midtable team, he’ll settle in well and will do just fine. His confidence level drops as soon as he wears the united shirt. It’s been a terrible move for him and the club and I hope it ends soon

 

[BootsyCollins]

How can anyone blame DeGea for the first goal? Second and third, yes, but not the first one.
Harry is wide open for a pass and when the pass is made 3 Sevilla players go into press him. Thats good news for every team as you can easily just pass it to the wingbacks and you have beaten their whole first pressing line.
Harry takes that and either pass it directly to Wan-Bissaka or even back to DeGea and its a good build up. If he is so bad he need to take a extra touch, then atleast he can turn and beat the press by himself.
He fecks up, freezes and does the worst thing he could do in that situation.

 

[DickDastardly]

We conceded goal vs Brentford in the exact same way. Just because Licha was very skillful to avoid the press once doesn't mean it's a good pass.

Players like Ederson, Alisson would have casually played the lofted pass to FBs or a man who is free without breaking a sweat.

You don't have to pass the ball to CB all the time, De Gea does it because he is so poor at picking the free man who is 20-25 yards away from him.

When there are 3 Sevilla players surrounding Maguire then it means at least couple of players who had enough space, i didn't check replay but from what i remember FBs were free.

Yeah well, check it then.
No point in discussing it when you can't see it clearly and watch it several times.

Pass to AWB was blocked.

Sevilla players purposely left Harry free so that the pass could be made. It's what's called a fake press.

Once he has the ball, considering he's the usual pressing point, you press him. And it worked.
They scored off his mistake.

You do that to any other CB in the league, you get left on your ass, and you're high press is broken.

That was a book example of how a GK should play the pass.
It was also a prime example of how a fake press should be executed.
And, it was also a perfect example of how to scout a bad center back.
Considering you have a scout tag, can't actually tell if you're pissing about or you actually believe Harry is even a decent player. Let alone a good one.

 

[Loon]

Running this in my head and I thought: "Maguire is pretty much the Jim Leighton of this side. His fear transmits through the team."

Ten Hag has to take Ferguson steps

 

[roonster09]

This post typifies his United career perfectly.

It’s always ‘the finer details’, was the pass to him good enough? His first touch would have been better if. . . etc.

We’re in 2023 & people are still having to forensically dissect his actions. Had he not messes up there, he’d have found some way to mess up later, surely people can see that by now.

Arguing over whether he or DdG should shoulder most blame is the problem. Neither are good enough. DdG would play that exact same pass to a Martinez & it’s only Martinez’s ability that would make it ok, that’s still DdG being crap. Same as a better goalkeeper would fire balls in at Maguire & he’d struggle to compose himself at some point.

Finer details are he’s never been good enough & anyone trying to claim he was at any point, I have a bridge to sell you.

Yeah, largely agree with this. Both are good enough, shouldn't be part of next season squad. If possible this season too but its not possible.

 

[Fabio Rochemback]

Should DDG of passed to Maguire there? No, of course not, but it doesn't excuse what Maguire did with it.

 

[Godfather]

The way he nervously pointed at his feet for the ball to be passed to him right before his cock up for the first goal....