I don't see the issue with DDG playing the pass, Maguire had loads of time and space to turn into. It was a shit pass to him, slow and bobbly. Totally killed any chance he had of turning away or playing it safely first time.
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I don't see the issue with DDG playing the pass, Maguire had loads of time and space to turn into. It was a shit pass to him, slow and bobbly. Totally killed any chance he had of turning away or playing it safely first time.
If not, then he should have used his position as the manager to lay down the law by stripping the captaincy off of Maguire from the very start.
That might be something you'd do if you thought nominal captaincy really mattered, which you probably shouldn't.
Or that dramatically stripping players you will need to use of captaincy on day one would help, which you also probably shouldn't.
At least, he's open to move, if the rumor is true.
He's one of the players I'm confident United can sell if club really try. The others, I wouldn't be so sure.
He's one of the players I'm confident United can sell if club really try. The others, I wouldn't be so sure.
I disagree. All on De Gea? They share the blame for that. Maybe even Ten Hag, for imposing a style that the two of them are ill equipped for. But on the other hand, I agree with Ten Hag when he says that the team shouldn't stray from trying to implement a style of football that he wants the team to play, even if it means exposing the likes of Maguire and De Gea.
He basically is. Every game he starts
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm agreeing, it was stupid for ddg to make that pass to Maguire. The pass was on but ddg is incapable of pinging the ball.
Also Maguire might ask for the ball, but Ddg sees the whole situation.
For me I'm just saying Maguire isn't good enough himself. Even if it was pinged to him, Maguire, if he was good, would not have panicked and been able to turn out of that.
The true conundrum of Harry Maguire is that, even though he isn't at fault for all of our calamitous errors and goals, he somehow always seems to be somehow involved in these calamitous goals and errors
Which is why he is memed so much
Which is why he is memed so much
We can argue about whether De Gea should be passing to him there but if the team is commanded to play out from the back then the pass wasn’t all that bad from De Gea. It was straight to Maguire. It didn’t require a first touch to control.
The problem I have is with Maguire’s complete lack of awareness around him. Any top class defender would scan around him before asking for the ball. The fact that Maguire asked for the ball despite not having a clue of where the players around him were epitomises the general problem with him. He’s clueless to his surroundings.
Nevertheless, even then he still has the opportunity to play the ball first time much better than he actually did. None of the 3 players actually got tight to him. They just circled around him. He panicked and made a mess of it.
No it wasn’t. Not the best pass but not as bad as you’re making out. There was enough pace on it for Maguire to deal with it. It was on his right foot so wasn’t the wrong side.
De Gea is clearly instructed to follow the team style and play out from the back. He played it straight to Maguire.
Look at how Martinez deals with the situation in a nearly identical scenario.
These aren't the same.
That pass was played to Martinez' right foot, as in his back foot, which allowed him to turn out like that, if DDG gives him that on his left foot, it's more similar.
De Gea plays the ball to Harry's right foot, which was wrong, it should have been fired into his back foot, (his left foot) then he can turn out in one motion. Because it's played to his wrong side, Maguire actually has to check his movement and ends up with no option but to try and scoop it to AWB.
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To be honest, I've seen Maguire perform similar maneuverers but only when he isn't under pressure. Maguire can't adapt when the stakes are high. His self-belief outweighs his skill which is a dangerous combination for us.
Let him score against a country without democracy or something and watch him cover his ears celebrating or shutting the critics.
God I dislike him
God I dislike him
League one player at best.
There's a video of Martinez getting out of a similar situation against Betis. Im not asking Maguire to do that, he doesnt have the ability, all Im asking is him being aware of his surroundings he could have pass it to De Gea again or just kick the god damn ball out of play.
The worse part is Maguire doesnt seem to realize how limited he is, he has the confidence of Nesta with the ability of a snail. He tries to do things he's clearly not capable of, he'd be way better if he knew his level and play safe instead he keeps shitting the bed time after time.
There's a spanish saying that goes "there's nothing more dangerous than a stupid with initiative"
I really do feel we should take the armband off him. At this point it can only help the team and Maguire himself.
Erik will get slaughtered by the media, who will inevitably turn it into a saga. He's actually done the right thing and letting him have the armband but just dropping him. Pretty sure the entire dressing room knows who the real captain is.
Realistically he wouldn't play if we weren't shit out of luck with injuries.
Ole must have been smoking some really good shit making him the captain right after signing him. Had no trophy winning experience and has no fight in him whatsoever.
He is so good in interviews though.
He is so good in interviews though.
That is not the same pass and I don’t know how you can say there was nothing wrong with the pass.
At this level that’s a criminal pass and I would only expect something like twitter to spin it into something normal.
And even if Martinez dealt with it that’s not the point. If this was a player anyone other than maguire we’d have no issue blaming DDG
I'm numb to his poor performances. The inevitability of night following day. Even so, kindly feck off.
Blaming DeGea for that pass is stupid. Maguire had plenty of time, he just telegraphed his pass like an idiot.
Now should we expect DeGea to know that passing to this clown of a player in that situation would result in that? Probably.
I've never been more embarrassed by a United player/Captain. Not his fault for being bad but at this point I'd rather see youth players/Shaw playing CB.
Now should we expect DeGea to know that passing to this clown of a player in that situation would result in that? Probably.
I've never been more embarrassed by a United player/Captain. Not his fault for being bad but at this point I'd rather see youth players/Shaw playing CB.
Maguire with another meme today. Surely he has to be the footballer with most meme?
You know that clip of Sideshow Bob and the rakes? That is what Maguire seems to do. You just have to laugh.
I yell at the fecking TV watching that shit.
The only problem with De Gea, he shouldn’t make that pass to Maguire, because it’s Maguire, who has tendency to feck up big time when under pressure. If it’s same ball to Martinez or Varane, it should be totally fine.
Identical? Think you need to have another look. Maguire was under far greater pressure. Was blatantly obvious to everyone other than Dave that it needed to go out to the right. Dave shat the bed, much like he does frequently. Dave can see the players rushing to press Maguire and still makes that pass.
No it was not. Not perfect but no way a terrible one. It's not DDG's fault but Maguire's shit awareness of his surrounding.
He basically kicked us out of the EL with an own goal and that brainfart. What's worse is I'm not even mad at him. That means I got pretty used to this.
Can’t wait for his next interview where he has the temerity to tell us all how fantastic he is, how much his managers rate him, and how he has nothing to prove to anyone.
The fact this man cost us £80 million and is club captain makes me sick. Never has one player in the history of Manchester United less deserved such status. A pathetic, spineless, sham of a player who needs to never play for this club again. Just the sight of his stupid, gormless face makes me irrationally angry.
The fact this man cost us £80 million and is club captain makes me sick. Never has one player in the history of Manchester United less deserved such status. A pathetic, spineless, sham of a player who needs to never play for this club again. Just the sight of his stupid, gormless face makes me irrationally angry.
Exactly I have no problem with De Gea making that pass to Lisandro but he know's its Maguire. Even when Maguire is asking for the ball De Gea must be smart enough to not put Maguire in that situation. Every man and his dog knows Maguire is specially prone to stupid mistakes when under pressure so why put in in that situation? just kick the ball out ffs.
The club has to accept it’s one of those signings that hasn’t worked and try and eek out as much money from someone. Won’t be easy but other clubs are brilliant sellers so we need a Dan James style deal. We can then reinvest in enhancing our back up CB options.
You guys are really blaming De Gea for passing to the wrong foot of a professional football player? Or blaming he should've known not to pass to Maguire?
Hahahahaha
Even if De Gea just booted up the field, you'd blame him for that.
The blame is all on Maguire and shows why he needs to go.
Hahahahaha
Even if De Gea just booted up the field, you'd blame him for that.
The blame is all on Maguire and shows why he needs to go.
See my response, it really was a poor pass, choice of pass was fine, the execution of the pass was the problem.
Honestly blame both of them as much as possible. DDG was a horror show all night and did his usual waiting on the ball before meekly underhitting it to Maguire in a terrible spot. But Maguire calling for it like he's prime Busquets under pressure was fecking laughable as well. Both of them are trainwrecks
The pass was accurate and not on the wrong side if you look at the position of the opponents players. There was also plenty of time, space and options for him to deal with. He could have simply let the ball running through there was no one behind him. Or pass the ball to the space between Lindelof and the half line. Or simply pass it back to DDG.
He just fecked up and tbh imo it's a bit daft to blame DDG in this situation.
I;m gonna blame Ghananian Parliament for memeing on him!!!11
Our two first choice centre halves out injured on Sunday, and I'm still more confident knowing he's suspended.
The only thing that can be said about De Gea's pass is that he might have kicked the ball a little harder. That's quite a small thing at the end of the day.
Maguire failed on every conceivable level, though. First he demanded the ball, and him being the captain, it's not as if De Gea can be expected to stop and fecking ponder the pros and cons of who he's passing it to. Then Maguire completely lost track of his surroundings, failing to look around and remain aware of the opposing players. Then he didn't let the ball pass his feet and turn with it in order to move up the pitch, as any competent defender would. And then he passed it directly to a Sevilla player, essentially assisting their goal.
Anyone who thinks this isn't 90% Maguire's fault is out of their mind. De Gea could have delivered a slightly faster pass, and that's the end of his culpability. In terms of Maguire's position at the time when he instructs De Gea to pass to him, the keeper is doing the right thing. Maguire is simply a bad player and fecked it up.
Maguire failed on every conceivable level, though. First he demanded the ball, and him being the captain, it's not as if De Gea can be expected to stop and fecking ponder the pros and cons of who he's passing it to. Then Maguire completely lost track of his surroundings, failing to look around and remain aware of the opposing players. Then he didn't let the ball pass his feet and turn with it in order to move up the pitch, as any competent defender would. And then he passed it directly to a Sevilla player, essentially assisting their goal.
Anyone who thinks this isn't 90% Maguire's fault is out of their mind. De Gea could have delivered a slightly faster pass, and that's the end of his culpability. In terms of Maguire's position at the time when he instructs De Gea to pass to him, the keeper is doing the right thing. Maguire is simply a bad player and fecked it up.
Rip. Break time it is. Suspended in the FA Cup semi final so he can't even redeem himself there. That's literally his United career legacy last chance down the drain with that shit show.
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