If you choose to ignore it then just keep banging on with your agenda.
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If you choose to ignore it then just keep banging on with your agenda.
And what agenda is that?
Being tiresomely boring.
Totally agree. In the right system and with the right players around him he is actually ok. He is good in Southgate’s system. There are plenty of decent English CBs and he is probably the best of them, for England that is. He hasn’t looked right for us for a long while but he’s not finished and he’s not worthless.
Such a fascinating observation
Let’s face it, he’s been garbage for years - ponderous, slow, doesn’t read the game well at all and is the worst captain I have ever known in my 50 years of supporting the club. ETH is no idiot and obviously recognised this early doors and hence Maguire’s demotion to being a bit part player and cover when we are rotating the preferred starters. If we can get £40m for him in the summer then that will be a blinding deal.
Agree. He wasn't this slow at moving the ball. He was also a good ball carrier for a CB. Hard to dispossess.
In fact he was technically very assured. One you could count on to have a good base level of technique when most of the rest were so up and down.
I remember saying it was only Maguire, Shaw and Mata whose technique could be relied upon. Even having a middling game you knew there was at least solid touch and pass technique with them.
But it's got to him big time. He looks nervous. Looks like a guy who knows he's on his way. Can't be easy to keep your confidence when you cost so much, are the captain but aren't a starter. It's probably a bit embarrassing for him.
Unlike a lot here I like the guy. I always admire players who reach the top from an unlikely start.
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Doesn’t take a lot of effort if you try
You cant make this shite up even if you tried.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...kylian-mbappe-antoine-griezmann-harry-maguire
Doesn’t take a lot of effort if you try
https://www.skysports.com/football/...kylian-mbappe-antoine-griezmann-harry-maguire
Dearie me.
I actually thought you were on the wind up. Then you try to prove it. fecking embarassing.
Just stop please.
You need a few more full stops there buddyDearie me.
I actually thought you were on the wind up. Then you try to prove it. fecking embarassing.
Just stop please.
Because that team has one of the worst managers in europe.
He's practically on the halfway line. You do understand how the offside rule works and why it wouldn't make any sense to be higher up the pitch or would you like me to explain?Why was he so deep?
You have the answer already: Maguire should have been on or past the halfway line.
By that same token, every player on a World Cup finals squad is on one of the best (national) teams in the world, but I’m not sure even diehard England fans would describe their team as one of the best in the world. Did Maguire perform all that remarkably in the World Cup? England went home pretty quickly despite trying to sit deep and hope to spring counters, with the space between defense and attack kept intentionally small. I thought Maguire was average in an average team.
The main point is that Maguire is 4th or 5th choice CB in a team trying to play aggressively with players able to interchange positions, not total voetbal, but everyone is expected to be good on the ball and quick. What he did at the World Cup is largely irrelevant. Erik picks Maguire when he needs to rotate. Erik picked Shaw ahead of Maguire, for example, when it really mattered.
Maguire basically needs to find a team that plays closer to what England plays. He’s not suited to an EtH type of system. It’s not hate, just a fact.
But he's always deep. Like literally always
This happened in his first season at least 3-4 times
vs Crystal palace - Lindelof loses the aerial duel and he plays Crystal Palace attacker onside
vs Arsenal - Misplaced pass by AWB and he plays Aubameyang onside
Did the same vs Everton a year later
vs Atalanta - Maguire again
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He always slowed the game down taking too many touches. He could carry the ball very slowly and then generally would make a safe pass, and he did that because he couldn’t spot and play useful early passes. He’s obviously low on confidence now and overthinking things, but he was always ponderous. He just had better technique than someone like Smalling so got the tag as a ball-playing English CB. Standards were low. Having someone like Martinez in the team just makes it a lot more apparent.
Maguire’s contextual awareness is shocking so much so that he has to second guess his every move which translates into ponderous and lethargic movement. He just doesn’t trust his instinct because he doesn’t know what’s happening around him. With the high-line we typically sustain in most games, this becomes painfully obvious.
Half of these examples are hilariously out of context but that's besides the point. We're talking about this one instance and he wasn't deep at all
Yeah you can see a lot of these out of context comments when you go back and read all the posts from his 2019-20 season 
However fast or slow he carried the ball he still had the ability to move forward with it, which most CB's don't. It's evaporated from his game now.
Martinez is an unfair comparison though. He's about as good as it gets on the ball for a CB. He makes Varane look middling in that department.
England are ranked 5 in the world so I do not think I am wrong in saying they are one of the best teams.
Name a player at a top club that is 4th or 5th option as a CB that would be picked as regularly as Harry?
If he is as bad as what the muppets on here say he is then Erik must be stupid for picking him in any game......Erik is not stupid.
Not even sure what point you’re trying to make. Not sure anyone cares about England’s ranking, anyone but you that is. They fail the eye test. Also, Maguire is * not * picked regularly, not sure what you’ve been watching. Maybe you mean his 5 minute cameos? Or starting the FA Cup the last game when the starters needed a rest? I don’t know any 4th or 5th choice CBs, like Maguire is here, because they are essentially forgotten men. Maguire will be gone in the summer, which will be all the proof one needs that EtH knows what he’s doing.Not sure why you replied
Think he would make a good member of Backstreet Boys because he loves playing at the back.
Think they meant regularly picked for NT.
Maguire is just not a good CB. He has so many deficiencies and that's why he gets so much protection from the NT setup. You can see how poor England look at time because they are so conservative. Southgate is good for Maguire, not for the talented English youngsters.
The dude’s whole argument was scatterbrained and incoherent, but you could be right. The fact Southgate picks Maguire is more of an indictment of Maguire than a redemption because Southgate is completely out of his depth.
All I know is no United fan wants him to start against Liverpool. That's all the proof you need he's not good enough. He's not been toxic which I appreciate but it's best for all parties to move on in the summer.
What do you mean by this?
I wouldn't really say he's 4th choice. He's equal second choice for the right side, battling it out with Lindelof. The two of them basically alternate when Varane is out, although it should be noted that Maguire does come off the bench more often.
When he starts we are considerably worse defensively. 3rd, 4th (made up 2nd) choice doesn’t really make a difference. He should be replaced with someone younger who has more potential and offers better cover for our starting CBs. Lindelof should be replaced too.
Should be reinstated into the starting XI next week after today's diabolical showing.
Some might say that the defence absolutely falling apart is a fitting way to celebrate our Slabhead's 30th...
I’m not sure that self harm is the way forward.
At the end of the day it's about squad management. You can't go to anfield and lose 7-0 and expect to keep your place. If it was fergie he'd probably replace the whole starting XI to set an example.
In my opinion Harry deserves to be reinstated now for a few games providing he can perform. Varane and Martinez can't start the next game after that performance. It sends the wrong message to the squad.
100% agree.
I'm so glad he wasn't involved today though, for real. The abuse he'd have taken if he'd have been on the pitch would have been off the charts.
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