Red Royal
Full Member
He should spend the whole week practicing attacking headers from corners
I agree with this.Maguire doesn't make a mistake. He moves across to support Shaw, pick up the man he has to allow him to move out to the wide man, as the ball travels to Fulham's right centre half. Happens all the time with the odd way we consistently position our left winger (if anything, Maguire occasionally doesn't get over enough/ get over quickly enough). Bailly is free with Wan Bissaka in a set position goal side of the left-sided attacker. As standard, he should also move across the pitch as the ball transitions to the left side of the pitch, but fails to do so.
Yep, we really need to aim for someone else now because it’s not working is it?!His heading from corners is something of a parody now. It’s harder to get some of these headers off target. Sort it out.
Still unsure how people have Maguire as a solid defender, he's always got this mistake in either his positioning or awareness on a game by game basis which typically leads to goals. Speed is his problem far too lethargic to get across.
I came to say this. Feels as if his headers were a lot more frequent at Leicester but I don’t have the numbers. If he starts scoring those we’ll be so much more dangerous on the corners and will help us a lot in games like these.He should spend the whole week practicing attacking headers from corners
I could literally hear him screaming and organising for the last 10 minutes, and helped us secure the win. Not sure what game you watched?
I was screaming where are you going before the ball was even played for the first goal. You dont just decide to go press wide without communication.
And thats with me ignoring the bad heading in their box.
Not criticising his defending, but it's unreal how many headers he wins at corners without scoring. Genuinely think I've seen him win at least 10 headers at corners this season, probably closer to 15, and he hasn't scored a single one
Rio criticised Maguire too.Think i'll trust Rio's analysis on the goal over yours tbh. Think anyone criticising him for it is being unfair.
Rio literally said he fecked up?Think i'll trust Rio's analysis on the goal over yours tbh. Think anyone criticising him for it is being unfair.
Still unsure how people have Maguire as a solid defender
I don't know what has happened to him. He was highest scoring CB when he was at Leicester, he has missed at least 10 easy goals since joining us in 1.5 years. Hope he starts scoring soon. We need goals from all possible situations and from all players
On the game he was good. Apart from few poor games he is having very good season.
He's -1.2 on expected goals since joining us. -1.0 this season. If that goal wasn't disallowed last week he'd be pretty much on par. Last night was his biggest miss from a corner I can remember. A lot of his misses from corners are difficult chances. Last night was a clear header.
Usually players don't get at the end of these chances, when they do they usually score. Maguire does all the hard work and then misses the last touch.
I don't know what was the value for each chance, but when watching the game I always felt that chance should be easy goal for a CB.
Headers have a lot lower xG than people seem to realise. Corners also have much lower conversion rate than people realise too. A lot of the balls that he gets his head on he's under a lot of defensive pressure and remember that corners are a long ball whipped in. I think last night was a good chance and a poor attempt though.
I think he should have a couple more goals to his name this season.
yet that decision proved to be incorrect as;I agree with this.
Maguire makes a decision not a mistake.
If Maguire decides to stay more central Shaw is at risk of a 2vs1 if Maguire goes to Shaw he leaves space but Bailly behind to cover.
The decision to go was sensible if you trust your defensive partner to move with you as they should.
Equally Maguire could have stayed put and left Shaw in the shit.
Maguire chose to support Shaws press and trust Bailly.
Maguire had absolutely no reason to step in towards Shaw for Fulham's goal. Shaw had his man covered and Martial was tracking their RB. It's was a wrong decision from Maguire. Even if they somehow managed to go past Shaw, they'd be forced wide.
I agree with this.
Maguire makes a decision not a mistake.
If Maguire decides to stay more central Shaw is at risk of a 2vs1 if Maguire goes to Shaw he leaves space but Bailly behind to cover.
The decision to go was sensible if you trust your defensive partner to move with you as they should.
Equally Maguire could have stayed put and left Shaw in the shit.
Maguire chose to support Shaws press and trust Bailly.
Headers have a lot lower xG than people seem to realise. Corners also have much lower conversion rate than people realise too. A lot of the balls that he gets his head on he's under a lot of defensive pressure and remember that corners are a long ball whipped in. I think last night was a good chance and a poor attempt though.
I think he should have a couple more goals to his name this season.
Been immense since that dodgy start, which was perhaps understandable given the ordeal he went through over the Summer.
I just don’t understand why people can’t get behind our captain. There’s enough people lining up to knock Utd. Sure, be realistic and provide constructive criticism but some of the comments on here are insane.
We have seen this before, against Sevilla and other times. The defensive partner shifts across and so does the fullback leaving us exposed or light on one side. It wasnt a good decision as Rio pointed out.I agree with this.
Maguire makes a decision not a mistake.
If Maguire decides to stay more central Shaw is at risk of a 2vs1 if Maguire goes to Shaw he leaves space but Bailly behind to cover.
The decision to go was sensible if you trust your defensive partner to move with you as they should.
Equally Maguire could have stayed put and left Shaw in the shit.
Maguire chose to support Shaws press and trust Bailly.
My God this place could find a way to blame Maguire for every single goal conceded
I presume you've never played at any level at 11-a-side football?
Maguire HAD to go out to deal with the player and area Shaw had vacated as Shaw was rightfully going to deal with an overload, If Maguire hadn't moved over to the space Shaw left, the ball would have been passed right into. Do you know what would have happened then? Half of the Caf would have criticised him for just standing there and leaving Shaw with a 2 on1. He can't win with you lot. \
Ferdinand even said, "Maguire has decided to go over and take the man near Shaw, which is fine". So Im not sure why if one of the worlds best ever CB's is saying it's fine, but some agenda-driven internet poster is saying it's not fine.
But because Maguire did shuffle over, he needed his CB partner to then mirror what Shaw and Maguire had done. Thats what good CB partners do. Fulham spotted the space, they then shifted the ball over to the centre and passed into the space Bailly should have shuffled over to. Bailly could see everything, and chose not to shuffle over. He just stood there playing a half-hearted offside. Bailly had enough red shirts to his right and behind him to realise it was safe to move over by 5-10 yards. Not difficult, more complacency than ability levels.
Poor decision from Bailly right at the start, but he's a very good player.
How people blame Maguire for rightfully dealing with an overload is beyond me.
Maguire's form has been excellent during this run to the top of the table.
Rio said it was fine to do what he did.We have seen this before, against Sevilla and other times. The defensive partner shifts across and so does the fullback leaving us exposed or light on one side. It wasnt a good decision as Rio pointed out.
Doesnt excuse Bailly not covering though, but Maguire should only move across if Shaw goes to the winger which he didnt. Don’t blame him for the goal but not point saying it wasnt a poor decision when it clearly was and a seasoned CB has already said so