This is our Captain who in a Press Conference yesterday in response to comments by a real captain said there were leaders all over this team and dressing room and then you concede a goal that you are unlikely to see in a kids game. This doesn't happen in a team with leaders.
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Tired of him. As if we gave him captaincy after 5months. 3 years top flight football and won feck all in his career. Hadn’t even captained Leicester if I recall but we give him the role for the biggest club in the world.
He wasn’t at his best but he wasn’t at fault for the goals. First was AWB abandoning his last man position and losing the ball and Matic was sleeping. 2nd Tuanzebe abandoned Ba so Maguire had to challenge him and there was no cover in behind.
Depressingly he was our most dangerous attacker too, nearly caused the OG at the end played the best attacking pass of the game to Bruno in the first half. That was his only long ball that came off though.
Depressingly he was our most dangerous attacker too, nearly caused the OG at the end played the best attacking pass of the game to Bruno in the first half. That was his only long ball that came off though.
Hilarious. I remember during the World Cup some on here going crazy over him. I never understood it, especially his total lack of self awareness to believe he's prime Franco Baresi on the ball, and not more Chris Smalling.
Usually it's Lindelöf fecking things up for him, tonight it was Axel, poor old Harry.
The hype was around those eyecatching runs forward, a gimmick that was never going to be a part of big clubs gameplan. Slightly above average defender, more confident on the ball than good on the ball and painfully slow in a tactically restricting way. It was an odd obsession.
Well that 1st goal put Keane right back in his box
Spot on. He is painfully average.
His passing is so average. Thinks himself as Scholes with those diagonal balls which are always over hit. Lindelof is better at everything but his price tag and nationality goes against him. If he was not English, he would have been hammered by the press. Bang average defender
But according to some rigid statisticians on here, hes our best CB
. Only way we can get rid of Mr. Undroppable is if Ole gets the sack
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Every game, he must over shoot about 5 of these and sometimes it’s when it’s the stupidest decision available to him.
In a team filled with many depressing routines, the four times a game where Maguire takes 12 touches before making a 5 yard pass to his centre-back partner might be the most depressing.
Maguire's best games are better than Lindelof's, but he's so up-and-down that an argument can be made that Lindelof's average performance has been better. At the very least they'd be even anyway.
My biggest problem with Maguire is that he is not a leader on the pitch and Ole is trying to make him something which does not come naturally to him. I don’t see him organizing our defence; crapping on players for being out of position or not closing on on players. He needs to be relieved of that responsibility and then allowed to focus on his game and maybe then we might see a half decent side of his play.
Better in his passing play, much better.
A world class leader right now he is sadly not. Mick Phelan loves him.
Reminds me of Lenny from of Mice and Men.
A world class leader right now he is sadly not. Mick Phelan loves him.
Reminds me of Lenny from of Mice and Men.
Ah yes, this.
Omg I remember that book
Yes, that would be my critics of him as well, he´s a bit slow to release his passes. Otherwise, I think he has been pretty solid since the international break.
He’s not been that bad. Actually would be very good with the right partner. Manchester United....where careers are destroyed.
confidence has been totally shot being hung out by poor tactics and poor partners.
confidence has been totally shot being hung out by poor tactics and poor partners.
Sometimes I feel sorry for him because it's caused by the lack of movement ahead of him. He'll be looking for someone to pass it to but there's just no-one giving him a good option. Of course, sometimes it's just him being slow and hogging the ball himself while a faster pass to his partner would open up the play for his partner to then pass forward.
Makes the heart sink down in the chest watching that.
I don't think so, because almost always someone like Matic or Lindelof would be close by telling him to hurry it the feck up. Yet he still always dawdles, probably because it's approved by Ole.
I don't think I've ever seen a more passive Captain in all my life . Them players are in a huge need of a good old fashioned bollocking yet they stroll around the pitch as if it's a practice game .
I've only seen Bruno really having a go at the other players this season and it's simply unacceptable.
Maybe they just have the managers over niceness .
I've only seen Bruno really having a go at the other players this season and it's simply unacceptable.
Maybe they just have the managers over niceness .
Shite. But can you bench 80 m player? Disaster of the transfer.
Not the smartest lad for sure (not by looks I mean). He has zero awareness and takes 10 touches before passing to his partner be it Lindelof or Tuanzebe. And when he passes long he miss hits it. I will not even speak about his leadership qualities as I don't see any.
He's been inconsistent in general but I can't stand whenever we concede he just walks off with a "well its life innit?" look on his face. Zero accountability for any of this, we won't go anywhere near trophies while this whole lot takes no responsibility and accepts that we're shit and we have to actually physically do it and win a trophy before we can say "we're United innit lads".
The Maguire and AWB purchases are why I can't take the 'move Ole into the DOF role' crowd serious.
Ole has totally misjudged not only Maguire’s ability but crucially his personality and leadership skills. It was
obvious before he signed he wasn’t a leader and didn’t organise Leicester’s defence but Ole seems completely oblivious.
obvious before he signed he wasn’t a leader and didn’t organise Leicester’s defence but Ole seems completely oblivious.
It's all pretend isn't it. Ole's simply sticking with a pretend version of Maguire, instead of facing the reality of who he is.
That's the only explanation for strange decisions like immediately making him captain upon arrival, and then playing him in a high line without the proper pressing structure. Either that or a general cluelessness which I'm not ruling out.
Sometimes a player is in acres of space waiting for a simple pass yet Maguire will jog to the guy to make a 5 yard pass.
If you pretend long enough, it could turn out to be true in the end. Ole will be the new Klopp and Maguire will be the new VVD.
There was one last night late on when TFM did well getting back and winning the ball. As he came forward Maguire cut in like some evil villain in a rom com so he could bring the ball forward at a much slower pace.
Self awareness would help.
Self awareness would help.
Agreed.
It's so painful knowing we're gonna be stuck with him for another 3/4 years at least since we spent so much on him.
Sorry for the slow reply, read this & wanted to give it the time I felt it deserved.
Thanks for the lesson on xG; I’m from England but grew up watching NHL, NFL & to this day NBA so I’m more than aware of the role stats play in analysis so I get what it does.
You’re correct it measures underlying trends but in the years you highlight when does the xG number correlate to the actual ‘G’? Once. Thus my point of expectancy vs reality. Whilst it can spot trends & tell you whether you’re under/over performing versus the metric it can be misleading if chances simply aren’t converted/conceded.
Is there somewhere on the web I can get the xG for the team pre-Bruno & post-Bruno?
Don’t know who said ‘he should be winning the game against Arsenal’. . .
We agree on the Shaw, AWB, Lindelof points. I actually think Maguire could be the 4th best player in a decent back 4.
Maguire is not suited to play a high line, as he doesn’t have good positional awareness, or speed. And he doesn’t read the game properly when playing a high line. And, since many United games mandate that we play a high line, he is not suited for United.
As much as he cost us £80 million, we need to fix this issue ASAP, even if it cost us £30 or £40 million. We stand to lose much more if we keep playing him in a position he isn’t suited for.
As much as he cost us £80 million, we need to fix this issue ASAP, even if it cost us £30 or £40 million. We stand to lose much more if we keep playing him in a position he isn’t suited for.
Could we not get him one of those Petr Cech protective helmets, say it's because he fractured his skull but actually it's just to help him control his headers?
To think we could have just kept Smalling, saved £80m, and got Sancho the following season for another £28m. We'd be lucky to get half our money back if we put him on the market.
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