Do you think there'd be several clubs bidding £100m for him if he scores 20 goals this season?
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Do you think there'd be several clubs bidding £100m for him if he scores 20 goals this season?
Doesn't need to be several, just needs to be one. And yes, if Kane scores 20 goals this season, I see United bidding 100 mil. next season, and not blinking an eye.
A little part of me will die inside if Harry Kane becomes the most expensive player in the world by £20m because he's managed to score about as many goals as Yakubu or Santa Cruz for two seasons in a row.
The overvaluation of Kane is one of the most absurd phenomenoms I have experienced on here. Soon we'll be considering whether it's worth to sell Old Trafford and the entire team to fund the 10% prepayment on £10bn transfer of Harry Kane.
I'm not saying the price is justified in social aspect. However, Yakubu and Kane are not comparable, IMO. The question for Kane, IMO, is not about Yakubu, but it's much, much closer to asking ourselves the question, "How much would Alan Shearer go for these days?" However, I rate him highly - obviously. Some don't. I'm putting it out there that I rate Kane quite highly.
Shearer wouldn't go for anywhere near £100m these days. £100m is the sort of money you pay for Ronaldo and Messi, not Kane.
Do you even realize how much is £100m? It's what City paid for Aguero, Silva, Toure and still more. It's 4 times what Eden Hazard cost. It's more than 2 times what Fabregas and Costa cost TOGETHER. It's almost twice what Barcelona paid for Suarez and it's 40% more than what they paid for Neymar. It's £20m more than what Ronaldo cost. £100m is the world transfer record beaten SIGNIFICANTLY. And we're still talking about the same Harry Kane who wasn't even expected to feature much for Spurs last season.
Disagree, Sarni. In this day and age a top scorer in the league is worth his weight in gold practically. Both on the pitch and considering how much more success on the pitch is tied to commercial success.
Chelsea must have not got the memo when they got Costa for £25m, ditto City when they paid £35m for Aguero or Barcelona when they got Suarez for £60m. £100m is what bought Hazard, Costa, Fabregas and Matic and it's more than what bought Silva, Aguero and Toure. Together. And we're still discussing the same forward who was on loan at Leicester 18 months ago.
Where did £100 million even come from?
Post on the previous page. Apparently if Kane scores 20 goals this season then he will be worth £100m and there will be no shortage of teams willing to bring him at that price. I really hoped this was a wind up but there are apparently more people who reckon that Kane is possibly the first ever, and the only in the world, £100m player. So basically what we're discussing here is whether a 20-goal season will mean that Kane is the best player in the world.
You honestly rate Kane as highly as a prime Alan Shearer?
Lets just bid the £680million Kane is worth and get him, we all know if he does the business this year again then next season he will cost us 1/4 of Old Trafford and £1billion
Oh right. It's similar to this weird idea that Kane's value will double if he has another good season.
Shame we were too stupid to sign him in January. His price has doubled now. We could have had him for £25 million.
I agree that we should have more English players playing in the first team as we are an English club. However if they don't meet the criteria as being good enough to play for the team then why should we have to field any English players? Why should we overpay for English talent as well? Real Madrid and Barcelona don't overpay for homegrown talent and come to think of it neither do Bayern Munich.
What is wrong with the way De Gea is behaving? He doesn't want to stay anymore and wants a return to Spain. He hasn't publicly made a fuss of the situation and has declared himself ready to play first team football. I think he knows he will be here for the season and is happy to stay. If he was treating United bad then he would sign the contract extension and increased wages and next season demand to leave and make a fuss, I think he is being a professional and showing his respect to the club and the fans. The fans were chanting his name at the Spurs game, wouldn't do that if he was showing any disrespect to the club.
The max price he will go for is when he inevitably moves from Spurs and that'll be £40 million max, it'll never be higher, lmao at the £100 million.
Another good season £60m will be his ceiling price only because he is English.
Sign him at any price
Can't help it, but I would really like signing Kane. He's the kind of signing I'm 100% sure that SAF would do, and based on what I've read about some of LVG's former strikers he fits the profile
Real bid 90M on Bale and he only had one good season...
He had one fantastic season and 2 decent ones previous to it playing for Spurs. He has shown a lot more than what Kane has shown in one season so far. Not too say Kane wont progress and become a very good player but Bale showed consistency and versatility in playing different positions. Wasn't hard for him to shine in a mid table team though.
Wrong, he had one amazing season after two good ones, having been highly rated from a very young age. The fee was over the top but with Bale you could see he could go on to be a special player the way he singlehandedly won games for Spurs in his final season there which had boosted his price. Scoring 20 goals in two successive seasons for Spurs is not really THAT much of an achievement. It is good, I don't doubt, but it's extremely silly to assume it's worth £100m - if it were there would have been several £100m transfers over the years and possibly a couple of £200m ones. If Kane is worth £100m+ then arguably Suarez should have cost between £180m and £250m.
Real Madrid will have no need for Kane next season, neither will Barcelona or Bayern who have superior forwards. And you still reckon that EVERY club who can afford him will bid which means you even expect them to be interested. Barca cannot wait to replace Messi and Neymar with Kane I guess.
Much as I'd be on board the 'Kane train' if it I happened, I can't help but think it will come at the cost of one of Mata or Herrera. If he joins it seems inevitable that Rooney will drop to the number 10, with Memephis left and hopefully Pedro right, LvG is always going to play two of Carrick, Schwienstegier, and Schneiderlin imo, so that leaves Herrera, Mata, and Fellaini twiddling their thumbs when everybody's fit, ok that's not very often but it'd still be overkill, and I doubt they'd be overly keen of doing that when LvG told them that's what's happening, which he will.
Personally think we're maybe better keeping Hernandez as a fall back, but give Wilson or Januzaj the number two striker position, this time last year Kane was a nobody and really bloomed, Wilson/Januzaj could do something similar giving the chance.
Personally think we're maybe better keeping Hernandez as a fall back, but give Wilson or Januzaj the number two striker position, this time last year Kane was a nobody and really bloomed, Wilson/Januzaj could do something similar giving the chance.
Think Wilson has had plenty of chances in the team but hasn't grabbed them yet, hopefully with the new players and better balance in the squad it will help the younger players reach potential quicker so we don't have to keep spending money bringing players in.
It's not our fault that english players cost more.
They cost even more because if they are deemed worth the price then they will most likely stay at the club until they retire or deemed not necessary anymore.
Rooney, Rio, Lampard, Sterling all cost serious money & not only improve the image of the club but will have no reason to leave.
Barcelona & Madrid & Bayern dont need to fight for a players signature; they are at the top of the tree and only an idiot wouldnt want to join them even on a free - cue my thoughts on de gea.
Lampard was signed for £11m which isnt serious money as we signed Rio a season after for £30m which back then was crazy but he paid it back with his performances. You think Sterling will stay at City? If he has a couple of good seasons then Madrid will come in for him and he will be off, making the same fuss he made at Liverpool to leave. I understand your reasoning for English players but the price for some of the players is crazy and to think some people say we would pay £100m for Kane if he has another good season is beyond the joke. A lot of Spurs fans have said that every bit of luck possible Kane could get he got and made him look better than he is, I don't totally agree with it as some of his play was brilliant but there was a few occasions last season he got lucky.
Are people actually trying to justify paying £100 million for Harry fecking Kane 
We could get like 2 Sergio Agueros for that money.Are people actually trying to justify paying £100 million for Harry fecking Kane
Kane is nowhere near as proven (or as good) as Alan Shearer was when he was transferred.
Tbf on Wilson he didn't get that many chances last season, and all the strikers struggled last season, people might think I've been breathing in too many fumes, but you put Wilson in the exact same set up that Kane would likely be in if we bought him - (Pedro RW, Memphis LW, Rooney AM), then I wouldn't mind betting there would be very little in with who scores the most.
I'm all for giving or lad a proper chance before we blow a load on a kane type layer, and hang on to Herrera and Mata.
How would you describe Kane's 2014/1015 season?
Good. Not better than Costa 13-14, probably not as good. Not anywhere near the level of Ronaldo or Messi where you are putting him with £100m valuation.
Put Mandzukic, Dzeko etc. in his place and he would have got similar numbers, give or take 3 goals.
i just don't get it. Good scoring record for 6 months but none of my Spurs supporting friends had mentioned him before as a future 'star'. Loan spells at Leyton Orient, Millwall, Norwich and Leicester were far from prolific and more importantly, whenever I see him I'm distinctly underwhelmed and I see little reason to pay anything close to the prices touted.
Who knows, he may be the real deal but any purchase is based on 6 months of performances and would be hugely risky and I suspect last year was one that he'll struggle to replicate, not just this season but maybe his career.
Who knows, he may be the real deal but any purchase is based on 6 months of performances and would be hugely risky and I suspect last year was one that he'll struggle to replicate, not just this season but maybe his career.
Are people actually trying to justify paying £100 million for Harry fecking Kane
Why are people fixated with the idea that transfer fees accurately reflect a player's true value?
Every fee is a unique combination of supply and demand.
- As a start, it must exceed the minimum the selling club will accept (influenced by factors such as club's financial position, importance to team, length of contract remaining and likelihood player would renew). You then have the maximum the buying clubs will pay (influenced by cost/availability of alternatives, age, expected impact on team, marketing value).
- For a selling club to achieve a price well in excess of the minimum it would accept requires a competitive bidding process with at least 2 credible buyers.
- What the top clubs (Real and Barca in particular, and also City with Sterling) have done well in recent years is eliminate the potential for a competitive bidding process. By coming to the negotiating table with the confidence that nobody else is really bidding, it just becomes a case of establishing the minimum they need to pay. Ronaldo to Real is probably the best example, De Gea could become another. The end result is that these deals get done well below a player's true value to the buyer.
- Clearer indications of true value occurr when multiple credible bidders compete for the deal - Bale (Real and Man Utd), Neymar and Suarez (Barca and Real), Shaw (Man Utd and Chelsea). Of course, the risk of overpaying is also higher.
- He builds on last year's form and goalscoring record.
- 2-3 top clubs are seriously interested - Man Utd, City, Chelsea, Real - and value him higher than Spurs.
- Alternative signings remain unavailable.
City or Chelsea neither could nor they would pay £100m for Kane. Barca would never consider him and Real Madrid have a better forward that they like over there although they are a bit mad, I could see them bidding £95m for Arnautovic if he scored two free kicks against Arsenal in cup final.
No way is he worth 100 mil but neither is that an excuse for him not being worth 40.
Football gone mad. Someone actually suggested this? FFS.Are people actually trying to justify paying £100 million for Harry fecking Kane
The assumption that Real Madrid and every other big club will be in for him if he scores amazing 20 goals in incredible Premier League is quite far fetched too. A 20-goal striker is not such rarity.
Costa with similar record plus brilliant CL performances cost Chelsea £25million. We could probably get Griezmann for £55m.
Costa with similar record plus brilliant CL performances cost Chelsea £25million. We could probably get Griezmann for £55m.
I dont think kane is worth 100mil but none of the players you mentionrd moved in to a competitive rival in the same league.
That could add extra 10 per cent not 300%. We should hardly be Spurs rivals as well, both clubs have entirely different goals. It would be like someone moving from Villarreal to Real Madrid or from Stuttgart to Bayern.
Atletico got Griezmann with much better record for £18m while we are at it, from Real Sociedad.
Mike has his number, everytime they've faced Kane has had an uphill battle.
£100m not Euros? Seriously? He'd have to have a Messi-esque season.
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