I think Wilson will go on loan and so will Adnan imo. At least really the should. Neither are going to get proper chances here so.
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If Spurs sign Berahino we'd be signing him to play with Kane, not as a replacement.
Yeah, he'd replace Soldado and Adebayor if you can offload either of them.
Aren't Spurs also signing N'jie or whatever? If we do sign Kane it'll be next summer at the earlier I'd say anyway, can't see him leaving this summer.
If they can offload them?
You make it sound like these are players who have proven sub-standard... like Spurs have wasted a load of cash on them. If Glaston has taught us anything it's that Spurs don't waste a load of cash on average players.
Yes, it looks like N'jie is arriving, but that doesn't rule out Spurs also signing Berahino, since one option is for both players to play as wing-forwards either side of Kane.
You guys want Hernandez too, you could get Berahino and money plus Hernandez for Kane from us.
N'Jie won't be an automatic first teamer for Spurs anyway.
Adebayor has been a waste of cash in terms of wages, but (and as Jason Burt of the Telegraph has confirmed) we've so far only paid £13m for Soldado, since the other £13m was for potential add-ons that won't materialise if we sell him. Thus, if Soldado is sold, the loss will be marginal.
Yeah once they've made significant profit on Soldado and Adebayor they will be able to sign Berahino.
The gift that keeps on giving. You paid £26m for Soldado. You were so keen to add non-existent add-ons to Di Maria fee yet deduct 50% of Soldado fee pretending it to be performance based. I guess Lamela cost you £4m?
Kane is English, young, a striker, on contract until 2020, and his chairman is Daniel Levy.
Considering these factors, any guesses as to the ridiculous fee they'll want?
Considering these factors, any guesses as to the ridiculous fee they'll want?
They won't sell to us for a fee that's remotely realistic value of the player which is why we should stay away. If we pay £100m for Kane I'll die.
I don't think Spurs particularly want Hernandez. As Pochettino said a few days ago: "About Javier Hernandez, those are rumours and nothing more ...."
Where has this 100 million figure come from?
We're just making it up, although we would expect a fee way above what you'd expect to pay for a 'one good season, mostly potential' signing from a smaller (in relative terms) club.
Don't take my word for it sunshine. Jason Burt of the Telegraph: "People keep reporting Roberto Soldado cost Spurs £26m. ... was always told £13m downpayment plus £13m on targets/incentives"
Just by Spurs. Forbes reckons they're worth about 380m pounds. No use spending so much on one player when you can buy the lot.
Spurs need the money for their stadium, they will cash in whilst his stock is high
No chance United will ever pay a sum like unless its for an elite player, so your life will be spared Sarni..
I'm pretty much of the opinion that i couldnt give a shite what we spend on a player, as long as he improves the team & it's not my money blah blah blah.., but with all this Kane shizzle - i draw the complete feckin line on it.
I actually hope Kane has a stinker this season. I'd laugh my arse off because of all the usual ridiculous English hyping of players that goes on. Hope Sterling has a shite season aswell too..
Just by Spurs. Forbes reckons they're worth about 380m pounds. No use spending so much on one player when you can buy the lot.
We could buy Spurs & turn it into it's true form - an amusement park with lots of feckin clowns running around..
Well my old mate down the pub said we only paid £4.28 and a pack of fags for Di Maria so I guess we made a £45m profit.
You are amazing. You probably went through 54 different sources to find the lowest possible fee for Soldado and highest possible fee for every single United signing.I rate him quite highly, much higher than some others on here, and I don't think he's a one season wonder, but that's just IMO. I think he reminds me of Shearer a bit, too. Sarni asked, "what if he scores 20+ goals this season too?", and my opinion is he would be in Shearer territory then. Do I think he's there yet? Of course not, I rate him, but I'm not insane. I hope...:-)
And if he scored 20 goals three seasons in a row, will he already be above Maradona or not yet? Come on, there have been numerous strikers who scored 20 goals in Premier League, the likes of Phillips and Beattie got close to that numbers with some degree of consistency. There are plenty of consistent forwards in Europe. Shearer was a special player, it will take him a lot more than two decent seasons to get to that level.
All true, and we paid more than that for Di Maria who was a busted flush. For United, IMO, the decision should be based purely on how much a player can improve the team. That's a players value for me. Rio was incredibly expensive, as was Rooney, and worth every penny - even if we had paid far more. Di Maria and Veron weren't. It's not that I want or think we should pay 100 mil, course I don't. Do I rate him and think he'd improve us immensely? I do, but that's just my opinion - totally agree he has a lot to prove to live up the hype. I'd love him at United, but he ain't coming cheap. I also hope he does live up to the hype, even if it is at Spurs. I just like the kid.
Sarni, mate, I get it. You're not on the Kane bandwagon. You might be right, and I might be wrong. Of course I'm NOT thinking of Kane in Maradona terms, that's ridiculous. I'm thinking his potential is in the Lineker and Shearer range, which is very, very good by the way and would be great for United IMO. Maybe he is a one season wonder though, and I've got it all wrong. Would I take a gamble on him? Yes, for a reasonable price. But what is reasonable in football these days? And what price can United afford for success these days? It's pretty high. But ultimately I with you, I don't think United and LvG will take a hundred million pound gamble on him.
Once each. Very consistent!
If this were true, Spurs could have bought him for 13m and sold him straight after and made a profit and no need to pay Valencia anything extra, obviously it not, not how you think its broken down.
How do you even know what the incentives are? you are presuming all Spurs have paid so far is 13m.
Apologies, should have said Totally agree rather than disagree. We're on the same page, King.
That doesn't make sense. He isn't a top class centres forward right now. If he proves to be a top centre forward he will do it by the time he's 24/25/26.
I think you missed the capitalized "IF" in his statement, mate.
"IF he proves to be a world class 22 year old centre forward.."
How can he prove to be that?
We don't and we won't: Levy is not so stupid as to make the stadium financing dependent on the vagaries of the transfer market.
The star is back!
I would imagine that there would have been be a contractual clause preventing Spurs from selling Soldado immediately (and thereby ruling out the possibility of Spurs avoiding paying future potential add-ons in this way), or else perhaps a clause that made such add-on payments from Spurs dependent on the same targets being reached (in the same time-frames) even if they were achieved at a new club. Contract lawyers tend to be aware of all the possible loopholes.
I don't know what the incentives are, but for strikers they generally relate mostly to the number of goals scored and the number of starts and/or appearances. Nor do I presume that none of the add-ons have been paid, but I do presume that most of them will not have been triggered so far.
He's not around right now, but I'll defend what I think was his point. The boy is young, and has every chance to prove he's world class now. It may be at 23 or 24 at the end of the day. For me, and I'm not speaking for @Kingminger now, if he's a 15-20 goal striker this season, he's in the discussion. 20+ or the golden boot this season, and it's undeniable.
Just by Spurs. Forbes reckons they're worth about 380m pounds. No use spending so much on one player when you can buy the lot.
The table in this thread reckons different: £710m: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/what-premier-league-sides-are-worth.407836/
And when the new stadium complex is completed, the club's valuation will increase considerably beyond that.
In that case Benteke is one of the best around too. He's got the third best scoring rate over the last few years in this league. Undeniable.
Being a 15-20 goal striker and being Aguero/Suarez are too different things.
Right now he most certainly doesn't deserve to be in the discussion. He's nowhere near the likes of the above two or Costa or Lewandowski or Ibra.
Agreed. Glaston is right, this has nothing to do with their Stadium funding. This is all about Kane, his potential, and whether United are interested. After that, it is about the appeal and allure of playing for the most prestigious, storied, and successful football club in England, with the largest worldwide fanbase and wages on offer that would far out-strip anything Spurs could offer. Would that appeal to the boy? That's what this is about.
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