Yeah I know. He gets all bullish about how Spurs conduct amazing businesses while United keep signing the wrong players.
Harry Kane
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You're about to get blown the feck out with Glastonmathics where he'll prove that we've lost more on ADM than they did on those flops because of recession, inflation and hurricanes in Far East.
The majority do stay in the PL Beckham and Bale are the only high profile ones that have chosen to go abroad, the former being sold off more than anything.
But we can say the same right now, Chelsea need a striker what if they go in for him this summer? You are always are going to get competition for the best players, you can't always sign all your targets, if he comes great, if not we will find someone else. TBH i don't think he's worth 40-50m after one good season.
Sorry but I think with pedro we got that covered. We don't need yet another wideman, we need a typical number 9
It's all irrelevant anyhow
No. You paid £64m for di Maria and got back £44m ... and 8% of even this apparently goes back to RM. That's a loss of £23m .... far, far more than we lost on Paulinho.
As for Soldado and Lamela, I wasn't aware that we've sold them.
No. You paid £64m for di Maria and got back £44m ... and 8% of even this apparently goes back to RM. That's a loss of £23m .... far, far more than we lost on Paulinho.
As for Soldado and Lamela, I wasn't aware that we've sold them.
Ah fair enough, forgot about Pedro's arrival. Only thing I might worry would be LVG's reluctance to play a right-footed player on the right wing (as he insists on playing with inverted wingers). We're about to see though I guess.
As much as I love bashing Spurs and discussing what we need, how do people think he's going to get on against us?
I still think he's going to do sweet FA.
I still think he's going to do sweet FA.
No, we didn't pay £64m for him you nutjob
How predictable that you'd change all the numbers to fit your agenda.The fee was £53m or something near that rising to £59.7m, the fee we're selling him to PSG for is apparently £44.5m possibly raising to around £50m. You've just gone and picked up the maximum fee we could end up paying for Di Maria, then added £4.5m on top of it and then picked up the absolute lowest amount we could receive from PSG. It's absolutely mental.
We haven't lost more than £10m on him and a lot of loss is down to exchange rates. You paid £41m for Soldado and won't sell him for more than £6m now and £4m will go to Valencia, Lamela cost you £37m and he's probably worth around £15m out of which £12m will go to Roma anyway.
Not really - they've signed three in the last year, one of whom is clearly their main man and is only 26.
Our main man is 30, and the only backup we've got is an unproven kid, and a guy we thought had played his last for us a year ago. No way Chelsea are battling us for him this summer.
Good point. You'll do well to get any money for those two.
He'll score 2 goals and we'll be talking about the Kane Train again.
Kane would be a good addition to the squad..
My problem is not what we might pay for him..
My problem is, if Rooney starts because he is captain.. And Kane starts, well because we paid 40 or whatever million for him..
Then are we again going to play a variant of 4-4-2, when manager says he prefers 4-3-3..
Even if Rooney plays No.10 in a 4-2-3-1.. That would mean we play Mata out of position on the right and if Pedro is also signed, he takes one of the wing positions.. Memphis needs to play so that would be on the left..
So Mata and Herrera gets benched.. Not to mention the likes of Januzaj, Pereira and Wilson never getting a proper chance to establish themselves..
Even if we sign Kane and not Pedro, Mata plays on the right and he doesn't have the pace and would be better off as No.10 and Herrera would rarely get a chance..
That is my problem with signing Kane.. Not whether he is overpriced or not..
We should get Pedro and eventually find a Rooney replacement.. Maybe wait on Kane another year.. Let's give chance to Januzaj and Wilson and I mean a real chance to prove themselves..
My problem is not what we might pay for him..
My problem is, if Rooney starts because he is captain.. And Kane starts, well because we paid 40 or whatever million for him..
Then are we again going to play a variant of 4-4-2, when manager says he prefers 4-3-3..
Even if Rooney plays No.10 in a 4-2-3-1.. That would mean we play Mata out of position on the right and if Pedro is also signed, he takes one of the wing positions.. Memphis needs to play so that would be on the left..
So Mata and Herrera gets benched.. Not to mention the likes of Januzaj, Pereira and Wilson never getting a proper chance to establish themselves..
Even if we sign Kane and not Pedro, Mata plays on the right and he doesn't have the pace and would be better off as No.10 and Herrera would rarely get a chance..
That is my problem with signing Kane.. Not whether he is overpriced or not..
We should get Pedro and eventually find a Rooney replacement.. Maybe wait on Kane another year.. Let's give chance to Januzaj and Wilson and I mean a real chance to prove themselves..
Pretty sure we paid just over £50m for Di Maria actually Glaston. The rest of the fee was tied up in performance bonuses. It's just the media are always very lazy and like to sensationalise fees by including the performance bonuses as the final figure.
Glastonspur's zombie affection has affected SarniNo, we didn't pay £64m for him you nutjob
The fee was £53m or something near that rising to £59.7m, the fee we're selling him to PSG for is apparently £44.5m possibly raising to around £50m. You've just gone and picked up the maximum fee we could end up paying for Di Maria, then added £4.5m on top of it and then picked up the absolute lowest amount we could receive from PSG. It's absolutely mental.
We haven't lost more than £10m on him and a lot of loss is down to exchange rates. You paid £41m for Soldado and won't sell him for more than £6m now and £4m will go to Valencia, Lamela cost you £37m and he's probably worth around £15m out of which £12m will go to Roma anyway.
depends if anyone else might be sniffing around. Might not have the luxury of waiting another year.
Glad to know that by Glaston logic we did not lose any money on Anderson in the end because instead of selling him we just kept him and released him in the end.
Griezmann is different player to Pedro.
He's Villa type of forward and will play centrally, not on the wing like Pedro.
He need a flexible and interchangeable forward line, not out and out striker IMO.
of course it isn't but at that price it's no brainer as Griezmann is the better player.
we should pass on him exactly because Spurs would probably take us to the cleaners and overvalue him couple of times.
Kane may be another Carroll, so far he has had 1 great season.
Griezmann main position is centrally, has good movement and positioning and eye for a goal. He's also good header of the ball despite his size. Can play one touch football and is very quick and sharp. I'd bring him in this year, rotate with Rooney and Depay and he should succeed Rooney as a false 9.
Depay/Pedro--Rooney/Griezmann--Pedro/Mata
looks very good. He can be our Aguero.
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Yeah, since we're operating with nonsense numbers then it makes sense to keep using them throughout the whole discussionGlastonspur's zombie affection has affected Sarni
Actually they lost £7m on Paulinho, will likely lose around £20m on Soldado and if they decide to offload Lamela it will be around £10m loss as well. They basically wasted nearly all Bale money on 'Glaston great business scheme'.
No, we didn't pay £64m for him you nutjob
The fee was £53m or something near that rising to £59.7m, the fee we're selling him to PSG for is apparently £44.5m possibly raising to around £50m. You've just gone and picked up the maximum fee we could end up paying for Di Maria, then added £4.5m on top of it and then picked up the absolute lowest amount we could receive from PSG. It's absolutely mental.
We haven't lost more than £10m on him and a lot of loss is down to exchange rates. You paid £41m for Soldado and won't sell him for more than £6m now and £4m will go to Valencia, Lamela cost you £37m and he's probably worth around £15m out of which £12m will go to Roma anyway.
crushingly brutal, devastatingly accurateYou're wrong. We payed 85m for Di Maria and now we are selling him for 35m to PSG, but then we have to pay to Madrid an extra 40m. So 85 - 35 + 40 = 125m losses in Di Maria. Adding the wages 12m a year, it becomes near 150m. With the taxes is just a bit less than 200m losses in him.
Seeing the business done by Spurs laid out like that is brutal. Levvy is horrendous. @GlastonSpur
It's always difficult to take a player from one of Europe's big 3 (Real Madrid, Barcelona and Tottenham), but I think Kane would be worth the trouble.
Not to mention that Greece saw AdM as being on the up last year after the CL and World Cup campaigns and invested heavily in his brand, which lead them to the fiscal disaster we've seen in the last few months. So we've fecked up several billions there.
Arsenal can't do the deal for obvious reasons..
Chelsea already have Costa, Falcao and Remy.. With Costa as the main striker.. Even if they are interested, they would still be quoted the same price which might make them think.. Remy is an able back up and Jose has made Falcao his project to show everyone how he apparently got him back to his best.. So can't see it..
City can either spend the money on Kane or on De Bruyne.. He will be behind Aguero as he is probably the best striker in the league.. They have a chance of the teams listed to go for him.. But can't see it..
Liverpool: Dont they already have like 7 strikers.. Plus, Liverpool affording Kane?!
That leaves us.. Can't see any foreign team going for him..
I think we can afford to wait another year.. To see if he can repeat his form this season.. Plus if we are going on a bidding war with City and Chelsea, with our money and PL money and the CL money, can't see us losing the bid..
Glastonspur being obsessed with our spending shocker.
They may well be, but my point was that Spurs fans are hardly in a position to criticuse United's Transfer policy given where they are.
mmmm very very true. So really all we are probably trying to do is get him now for one price, instead of risking him staying there another year and excelling and costing us even more next year. I understand that tacticArsenal can't do the deal for obvious reasons..
Chelsea already have Costa, Falcao and Remy.. With Costa as the main striker.. Even if they are interested, they would still be quoted the same price which might make them think.. Remy is an able back up and Jose has made Falcao his project to show everyone how he apparently got him back to his best.. So can't see it..
City can either spend the money on Kane or on De Bruyne.. He will be behind Aguero as he is probably the best striker in the league.. They have a chance of the teams listed to go for him.. But can't see it..
Liverpool: Dont they already have like 7 strikers.. Plus, Liverpool affording Kane?!
That leaves us.. Can't see any foreign team going for him..
I think we can afford to wait another year.. To see if he can repeat his form this season.. Plus if we are going on a bidding war with City and Chelsea, with our money and PL money and the CL money, can't see us losing the bid..
I put Glaston on ignore around a year ago and never intend on reading one of his posts ever again. Do yourselves a favour and do the same.
Absolutely love how you come up with £125m when the real result of that calculation is £160m
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The amount of twisted bull shit in Glaston's above post is astounding. He's such a detestable figure.
He's such a detestable figure.And yet, still finishing ahead of them, barring 1 Moyes season
BOOOOMMM!!! Kostur called it
You have to admit though that he always tries. Soon we'll find out about £20m fee for Schweinsteiger, £32m for Schneiderlin, £28m for Depay and £18m for Darmian (because he always uses the highest possible quoted transfer fee and translates it 1:1 into £s - so if you pay $50m it's £50m in United's case). Obviously incorrect signings, all of them.
No. You paid £64m for di Maria and got back £44m ... and 8% of even this apparently goes back to RM. That's a loss of £23m .... far, far more than we lost on Paulinho.[/QUOTE]
Are we just making shite up now? For the life of me I can't understand how a poster with just negative opinions about United is still here..
Are we just making shite up now? For the life of me I can't understand how a poster with just negative opinions about United is still here..
Yu're right man, 85 - 35 + 40 = 160m. Add 12m wages (in euros that is 17m euros) and so the cost becomes 177m pounds. In Spain taxes are 40% (as we payed for Herrera) and so the total cost is 247.8m pounds.Absolutely love how you come up with £125m when the real result of that calculation is £160m
Feck, soon we'll go into bankurpcy cause of Di Maria.
Again wrong.
£160m + £12m + €17m (translation into Euros) = £189m * 40 (tax rate in Spain) = £7,560m = £75.6bn
Think we need to fold the club now.
He already said earlier in the summer that we've paid 31 million pounds for him.
Says it all about him when you were exaggerating figures to show your sarcasm about his creative use of ourdealings, yet still underestimated the actual figures he comes up with.
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