every player develops at other stage. Kane may not become Henry level but he can easily come close to Alan Shearer..
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Kane didn't even start for Spurs until after a good chunk of the season had already elapsed. Also, comparing Kane to Rooney on the basis of short tourney is silly when you consider that he scored 31 club goals across the season, plus many goals for the U21s prior to the finals.
One season wonder.
Its a international tournament, one lit up the senior version and the other one did little in the kids version.
And it not like Rooney lived off one tournament and I am not saying Kane is a one season wonder, but there are lots of English players that have done what Kane has done and did little of note after; James Beattie , Marcus Stewart, Dean Holdsworth,Kevin Phillips, Andy Johnson, to name a few.
This is the company Kane is in at the moment, the Rooney comparison is laughable. Rooney, before he moved to United was probably regarded as the best young player in the World and this was ahead of Messi and Ronaldo at the time.
If your comparison is just done on goals, being a English top scorer, well than, Kane is no better than Darren Bent at this stage.
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Scored a really decent goal yesterday for Spurs
Yeah, defending is obviously crap but the finish is excellent.
Lovely goal that.
He's great at shooting with little back-lift. He also shoots early, and gets the ball out of his feet very well.
For these reasons, I don't believe he'll suffer too much of 'second season syndrome'. He doesn't need acres of space or to even be in the right place all the time.
For these reasons, I don't believe he'll suffer too much of 'second season syndrome'. He doesn't need acres of space or to even be in the right place all the time.
I'd be surprised myself if he has second season syndrome. He might struggle to do just as well as last year, but he's clearly a talented player. Presuming injuries/mentality don't hold him back, I don't expect him to just slip into obscurity.
He's the real deal.
They haven't done that though. Kane scored 31 goals last season, Beattile, Philips and Johnson weren't close (the other two were before my time).
But more importantly, they didn't do it when they were Kane's age. When Beatties was Kane's age he scored 6 goals in 70 or appearances. When Philips was Kane's age he was playing in first and second division. When Johnson was Kane's age he was still playing in Division 1. Only Bent comes close, but still it is a difference of 9 goals.
Yup, one of the few strikers around that looks capable of scoring from any distance. Can make something out of nothing. Very dangerous.
Great striker of the ball. Really reminds you of shearer (not saying he is anywhere near as good or will be).
It is pretty easy to be the top PL goalscorer of all time by a clear 70 goals, tbf.
I don't expect him to reach 30+ goals again time around ... not least because he's going to be the focus of much more close attention from opposition players. But if he does have two successive 30+ seasons, and still be only 22 years old at the end of it, then that really will be phenomenal.
Barring injury I'd predict a 20+ season.
Aye, 20+ in all competitions seems more likely. Obviously it'll depend on how Spurs do as well, and the level of service he gets.
This. Shearer is consistently underrated, I don't know whether that's us United fans being a bit bitter that he snubbed us (he was fecking dearer) but he's the best striker the BPL has seen imo.
Ridiculous striker. As near to complete in the old fashioned sense (Re: not pacey) as I've ever seen. He's the benchmark, not a consolation prize. Kane would do well to get anywhere over half his numbers. Which isn't an insult.
I've been meaning to make a thread regarding Shearer but I'm far too lazy.
I think there's a big risk of failing to acknowledge just how good a striker he was.
I think there's a big risk of failing to acknowledge just how good a striker he was.
I think RVN was up there with him for the "traditional striker" prize. I guess you'd give it to Shearer though, if only because he did it (in the PL) for longer.
Young Shearer was like a train before the injuries.
Don't mean to digress on Kane but just had a quick look at the all time leaderboard (PL top scorers), top 5:
260 - Alan Shearer
187 - Andy Cole
185 - Wayne Rooney
177 - Frank Lampard
175 - Thierry Henry
It's pretty obvious that Wazza isn't gunna catch him or even come close, the next highest ranked player still playing in the Premier League is Defoe ranked 11th on 128 goals. Stunning stats really.
Obviously not the Prem era, but even Shearer pales in comparison to Jimmy Greaves: Spurs' highest ever goalscorer (268 goals), the highest goalscorer in the entire history of English top-flight football (357 goals).
It'll stand the test of time. The only thing that could challenge it is some warped reincarnation of Lionel Messi breaking through at 16.
And that's limited to PL (ie. since 1992) alone, if you incl. the entirety of the first tier of English football you get:
357 - Jimmy Greaves
317 - Steve Bloomer
310 - Dixie Dean
287 - Gordon Hodgson
283 - Alan Shearer
257 - Charlie Buchan
255 - Nat Lofthouse
248 - Joe Bradford
246 - Hughie Gallacher
243 - Joe Smith
Apart from Greaves and Lofthouse, Shearer is the only post-WWII player in that top-10 (and the only one post-1960s).
He was the definition of a 20+ goal striker. He scored over 20 in all competitions 10 times in his 14 PL era seasons, and 2 of the times he didn't he played less than 25 games, and the other 2 he was over 35.
#Shearerlovein #statfest #yolo #derailingthread #lol
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Probably won't catch him, but I wouldn't be so sure about not coming close.
Say he gets 20 this season (whihc is prefectly possible, given that it looks like he'll be played up front, and pretty much all the time too). That leaves him 55 short.
Andy Cole left United at the same age Rooney would be then - 30. He went on to score 51 more Premier League goals for other clubs.
Not that I'm saying Rooney will be off in a year too, but if he stays that should only increase his chances. Could quite easily pick up 50 in 3 more seasons at United, leaving him needing 25 in his "dotage" - three more seasons at 8-10 a season and he's there.
Shearer was absolute class, and would have scored shitloads of goals for us.
A dirty cheating b*****d, but deadly in front of goal
A dirty cheating b*****d, but deadly in front of goal
He wont ever become even remotely close to Henry and I seriously doubt he will get close to Shearer.
It's a shame cause I reckon if Ronaldo had stayed with us he could have had a damned good go at it. If he averaged 25 goals per season in the league (hardly beyond him) it'd have taken him around 7 more seasons from when he left us, would have been this season coming up..
Henry could (and probably would) have done better if he had played the same amount of seasons/games in the PL as Shearer.
Shearer: 260 in 441 apps (0.59 gpg) over 14 seasons
Henry: 175 in 258 apps (0.68 gpg) over 8 seasons (and a half)
Henry was a great player in a great team. Shearer was in an average saints team. I think he pretty much won Blackburn the league and Newcastle were also hit and miss. So how many would Shearer have got if he'd have joined United and not had the injury which stole his pace really?
I just can't see him scoring 50 for us over the next 3 seasons, furthermore a 36 year old Rooney still knocking in 10 goals a season?
Not neccesarily. If Ronaldo would ave stayed here, he would have easily broken that record.
The problem though is to get an absolutely top player who will be in England for 15 seasons or so.
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