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Seriously, they were not playing in those leagues for 1 season.

Why does it matter? People rate Dybala and Vietto despite scoring less, in their break out season and in supposedly weaker leagues, what is that based on? And Scheinderlin has been doing it in the PL for like 3 seasons.
 
:lol: Is that his Play Station valuation? Get in the real world ;)



Watch this space ;)

I said IF his valuation was around there.

For the second part my reference was for Hernandez when he was banging them in the first season :)

For Kane this window it would be ludicrous if someone shells 40m pounds. I doubt that we're that dumb.

Explains why we signed Herrera for 30m and Di Maria for 60m?
Herrera had 5 seasons in La Liga and we triggered his release clause.

AdM was one of Real's best players in his last year, winning CL and had 4 seasons in La Liga, previously being excellent in Portugal.

Both cases have nothing to do with Kane or Schneiderlin.
 
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Who gives a feck how much he costs, this is what all those sponsorship deals are for!

I'd love Kane here, he's a brilliant striker. Couldn't care less how much he costs.
 
No its based on past transfer fees of strikers who have come from such leagues and have good goal scoring records. I'm not saying he isn't quality, and tbh I don't think anyone is.
All people are saying is that for the price, its a huge risk, especially when hes only done it for one season

We either spend the money or let the Glazers keep it like they did for so many years, I know whuch one I prefer.
 
Why does it matter? People rate Dybala and Vietto despite scoring less, in their break out season and in supposedly weaker leagues, what is that based on? And Scheinderlin has been doing it in the PL for like 3 seasons.

I'm not saying anything about Scheinderlin I'm talking about Kane. People also rate Kane, but Dybala and Vietto aint going to cost £40m+
 
Who gives a feck how much he costs, this is what all those sponsorship deals are for!

I'd love Kane here, he's a brilliant striker. Couldn't care less how much he costs.

This. Fans have become economists that value the worth of a player, based on absolute nothing, funny.
 
I'm not saying anything about Scheinderlin I'm talking about Kane. People also rate Kane, but Dybala and Vietto aint going to cost £40m+

How did you know then that Kane would cost £40m? I've seen this fictional figure being thrown around everywhere.
 
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The difference is, ALL, your top players have been poached for as long as i can remember. Who is the last Spurs player to have matched Rooney/Ferdinand/Giggs/Scoles/Robson/Neville etc, etc & not been head turned by a bigger club. Who is the longest serving Spurs player in recent times?


Spurs are a selling club, usually at the first opportunity. Come on, admit it, Mr Levy can't resist a decent wad of cash. ;)

Yes, Spurs are a selling club - like all clubs are if a player want to leave and enough money is offered. But this is usually not at the first opportunity: the preference is to keep talented players if at all possible, or if this proves not to be possible, then to hold out for a very large sum.

Ledley King is the answer to your other question. And he was certainly a match for Rooney, Ferdinand etc.
 
This. Fans have become economists that value the worth of a player, based on absolute nothing, funny.

The cost of the player causes pressure and huge expectation.
Look at Di Maria and Bale this season, if they didn't cost as much as they did, they wouldn't have got such hard times like they did.
 
It really would be a risk and ideally I wanted to see what he would be like this season before Utd went nuts

But I also cannot deny that I would be excited if we got him now. He is the closest thing I have seen to another Alan Shearer and looks a country mile ahead of one season wonders like Beattie, Carroll and Davies
 
Yes, Spurs are a selling club - like all clubs are if a player want to leave and enough money is offered. But this is usually not at the first opportunity: the preference is to keep talented players if at all possible, or if this proves not to be possible, then to hold out for a very large sum.

Ledley King is the answer to your other question. And he was certainly a match for Rooney, Ferdinand etc.

King would have definitely left Tottenham if it hadn't been for his injury issues which had basically made him unable to fulfil his potential. Had an offer from United or any other top club been on the table he'd have played elsewhere.
 
His current preference is to stay at Spurs. Most of your post is speculation about what might have happened (or might happen) in hypothetical scenarios and not proof of anything. You're saying that what happened with Modric and Bale was lucky, whereas I'm saying it resulted from club policy. Don't they say that the proof of the pudding is in the eating? Well so far the "eating" is all on my side of discussion.

It's not as if playing in the CL on massive wages for PSG or B. Munich or Juve (or whoever) would be a hardship. And nor am I talking about forcing a player to do so. They'd have a choice, as I've said.
I know his current preference is to stay at Tottenham. That has nothing to do with it. Your so called policy will apply differently for British players and foreign players. It's common sense, really.

You benefited from the fact that Bale was wanted by Madrid. Where would he be playing if Madrid had a different player in mind instead of Bale? This is a man who missed training, and had no plans of staying at Tottenham.
Madrid did you a favour twice. They can't/wont keep doing it. Not every Brit has a hard on for Madrid, and Madrid wont be after every player who does well at Tottenham.
 
I never really care about fees, they're only ever useful to normal fans like us when the player is a flop and we can use it to take the piss out of opposing fans (Carroll for £35m being my favourite).

We should just leave the finance to the experts at United, who will be working with Van Gaal and the coaches to find a price limit. If we land him for £20m or for £50m I don't care!

It pissed me off so much at times when Fergie was always on about "value in the market" and refused to splash out on players we so blatantly needed!
 
Put it this way though. Why would Spurs sell for less than £40m?

Then they should get fecked until next summer, when we can be more sure hes the real deal.
 
Put it this way though. Why would Spurs sell for less than £40m?
Exactly. They hold all the cards. He's just signed a 5 years contract. When Bale goes for more than Ronaldo and all other examples of Spurs getting great value for their hot players there's no reason for them to settle for less than 40m.
 
Then they should get fecked until next summer, when we can be more sure hes the real deal.
Not the time to be angry now. We're in desperate need of a striker that can go straight into the team and perform. Not many of those available. We'll have to suck the dick.
 
He's scored 21 goals in the premier league. Good achievement for a young player but people go on with his "scoring record" as if he's been doing it with some sort of regularity. One season. 21 premier league goals. That doesn't deserve a fee that would have been our record transfer fee a year ago.

He scored thoae goals at his age, tell me who can match that or has done similarly and not become a top striker?
Danny Ings, for instance, has a better goalscoring record. Kane has had ONE good season. Ings was out scoring him consistently prior. Would you suggest spunking stupid money on him?

So ings has outscored him in the league at his age? Couldnt back that up could you?
 
Not the time to be angry now. We're in desperate need of a striker that can go straight into the team and perform. Not many of those available. We'll have to suck the dick.

Exactly, we have no idea whether Kane is that, which is my main point. If we did, then who cares if he costs £200m
 
Where are people getting the fees of 40-50m from?

It’s the way it is now for young English players who look incredibly talented. We may scoff, and it is a bit daft, but we paid something like £30m for Luke Shaw.
 
He scored thoae goals at his age, tell me who can match that or has done similarly and not become a top striker?

Lukaku: 17 league goals aged 20 and 15 league goals aged 21
Benteke: 19 league goals aged 22
 
Yes, Spurs are a selling club - like all clubs are if a player want to leave and enough money is offered. But this is usually not at the first opportunity: the preference is to keep talented players if at all possible, or if this proves not to be possible, then to hold out for a very large sum.

Ledley King is the answer to your other question. And he was certainly a match for Rooney, Ferdinand etc.

Ledley was great but unfortunately a crock who because of this, had little transfer value or interest. Could have been absolute world class & then sold to the first bag of cash to come a knocking. How long did Gazza stay or Waddle, Sheringham, Redknapp, Carrick, Berbatov, Bale, Woodgate, Modric - my point is, that Kane will be no different.
 
Just throwing a hypothetical one out there...Imagine next season Rooney gets a long term injury, we throw Wilson in (because we don't sign a striker this window and RvP is still shite) and he then goes on to score 31 goals in league and Europe, gets called up to full national team scores on his debut etc. Us fans and the media all singing his praises then in the summer Chelsea and Roman want to buy him...what price would you all find acceptable when a money bags team comes calling?

I actually believe the reported price for Kane of 40m to 50m to be a joke by the way.
 
Just throwing a hypothetical one out there...Imagine next season Rooney gets a long term injury, we throw Wilson in (because we don't sign a striker this window and RvP is still shite) and he then goes on to score 31 goals in league and Europe, gets called up to full national team scores on his debut etc. Us fans and the media all singing his praises then in the summer Chelsea and Roman want to buy him...what price would you all find acceptable when a money bags team comes calling?

I actually believe the reported price for Kane of 40m to 50m to be a joke by the way.

As a club, we’d probably be looking for similar prices to what Spurs want for Kane. He’d arguably not be worth that much (akin to Kane), but then we’d have no incentive to sell at a lower price. Especially if we’re looking to compete with Chelsea again.
 
As a club, we’d probably be looking for similar prices to what Spurs want for Kane. He’d arguably not be worth that much (akin to Kane), but then we’d have no incentive to sell at a lower price. Especially if we’re looking to compete with Chelsea again.

my thoughts exactly
 
Just throwing a hypothetical one out there...Imagine next season Rooney gets a long term injury, we throw Wilson in (because we don't sign a striker this window and RvP is still shite) and he then goes on to score 31 goals in league and Europe, gets called up to full national team scores on his debut etc. Us fans and the media all singing his praises then in the summer Chelsea and Roman want to buy him...what price would you all find acceptable when a money bags team comes calling?

I actually believe the reported price for Kane of 40m to 50m to be a joke by the way.
That scenario doesn't work, United would not sell a successful 21 year old Wilson. However, for the sake of debate, his value would be around £50M.
 
Exactly, we have no idea whether Kane is that, which is my main point. If we did, then who cares if he costs £200m
We have some idea. All signing come with risks. The main risk with Kane is if he will continue to develop into a great player imo.
 
That scenario doesn't work, United would not sell a successful 21 year old Wilson. However, for the sake of debate, his value would be around £50M.

Aye, that’s the way it is, ultimately. I mean, some of our fans were unhappy that we didn’t push for £20m+ for Welbeck, and he’s barely outscored Kane’s tally last season throughout his entire career.
 
Id rather go for Benteke or Berahino who are cheaper
Despite Benteke going completely off the boil & his appallingly lack luster performance for his country in a massive game last night, which followed his non appearance in the Cup final. As for Berahino - he's in the same bracket as Morrison for reliability, well, maybe not that bad but a risk. Neither of these two have the slightest marketability either whereas Kane would recoup some of his outlay.
 
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