I actually don't want us to sign him, i just quite liked that ditty which i'm totally sure is 100% original.
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I actually don't want us to sign him, i just quite liked that ditty which i'm totally sure is 100% original.
Do you watch the Serie A regularly, and follow Palermo?
Do you also follow Tottenham?
Can yo honestly say you've watched them both enough (and is qualified) to assess that Dybala is a much bigger talent than Kane?
Sounds like bullshit to me.
Also, you don't think someone who has had the form that Kane has had this season is a big talent?
We're talking about a 21-year old who has scored 21 goals in his first proper season in the Premier league as a striker.
He isn't small, he doesn't show weakness when put up against defenders neither when he takes them on dribble nor when he plays more as a target-man. He scores goals with both feet and his head and he isn't a immobile striker who doesn't work hard for the team.
He has proved that he is a great talent this year, It's just a question about if he can progress and not fade away.
A lot of huge talents fade away, that doesn't mean they weren't talented.
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No, I don't think it's been a fluke at all. He has a good set of skills and looks determined to make it which is why he won't disappear into mediocrity. Man Utd should aim higher than him though.
No, I don't think he's a top talent. He's a decent talent, will go on to be a good Premier League striker, will never be in the same bracket as players like Aguero, Benzema or Suarez who are currently the best in the world and for a £50m+ fee you'd expect that.
Ah I see you went to college.
Well played sir, well played
Just like getting ya wang out randomly?
feck it, why not
Yeah, they wanted Wenger didn't they?
While I definitely think it’s too early to judge Kane fully, since he could turn out to be a one-season wonder, I don’t agree that he’d just be a “decent” league striker if he continues to develop and improve as a player.
Of course, there’s no guarantee that development will happen, but his season has been incredibly impressive for someone of his age, and he’s a far better player than Carroll ever was. I feel like people could potentially be giving him less credit than he deserves due to the history of the British media hyping up any British talents to absurd levels.
Money doesn't matter, we're loaded. Just buy the fecker
He's been very good for Spurs, I agree and was a standout player in last season's campaign. Watching him play I don't get the impression that he's going to develop into one of the best players in the world and a fee that he'd very likely command would be of a kind that'd normally be supposed to get you the very top talent.
As I've said, for up to £25m I wouldn't mind him and pushing it I'd be happy with a £30m deal. It's not going to happen though and we'd likely have to pay £50m+ to land him and I don't think he's worth that. The forward we should go for is Vietto, 20 goals for Villarreal last season including 12 league goals, very good set of skills and a £14m release clause. Very promising and the rest of money could go towards someone like Firmino. I think we should look abroad because there's very little value in PL.
That is utter rubbish.
This was the player they almost released 18 months ago right? Until Sherwood put a stop to it, or something like that anyway.
Say we offered £40 million + Hernandez it would be hard to turn down for them, and it'd be a huge risk from United to offer it and see him as main goal scorer in the prem and Europe.
He has had one great season and is not a Rooney type starlet that just has that extra something, if he backs it up next season then fair enough but it'd be a risk for Spurs to think he can when top money, and a proven goal scorer is on offer, for me if they have the same amount of game time Hernandez might well out score him.
Say we offered £40 million + Hernandez it would be hard to turn down for them, and it'd be a huge risk from United to offer it and see him as main goal scorer in the prem and Europe.
He has had one great season and is not a Rooney type starlet that just has that extra something, if he backs it up next season then fair enough but it'd be a risk for Spurs to think he can when top money, and a proven goal scorer is on offer, for me if they have the same amount of game time Hernandez might well out score him.
So there's a lot of negativity about this potential transfer. Obviously the Daniel Levy factor means we would pay well over the top for this guy. If it happened would people actually give him a chance in a United shirt? Most of the time we get right behind our transfers but I worry that if he didn't hit the ground running the crowd wouldn't take to him.
It isn't really. He is a better player than Carroll which is why spending £35m on him wouldn't be as ridiculous, but increase that amount by 50% and it looks about the same in terms of madness.
This is why I always doubt the club when they say every player they buy has been watched for years etc.
This kinda screams of LVG watching MotD this season and picking the best striker that isn't at a top four club.
If United are going to get back to the top they they need to be clever in the transfer market.
Kane will cost shitloads and the current club captain is only useful when played up top...so this buy would make little sense football wise or financially.
If RVP/Hernandez join Falcao and leave this summer then United should just buy a backup for Rooney and let Wilson/Wingers fill in when needed.
Spunking 40+ million on Kane will create problems, not solve them.
This kinda screams of LVG watching MotD this season and picking the best striker that isn't at a top four club.
If United are going to get back to the top they they need to be clever in the transfer market.
Kane will cost shitloads and the current club captain is only useful when played up top...so this buy would make little sense football wise or financially.
If RVP/Hernandez join Falcao and leave this summer then United should just buy a backup for Rooney and let Wilson/Wingers fill in when needed.
Spunking 40+ million on Kane will create problems, not solve them.
I think he is potentially one of the top forwards in the world and after 2 or 3 years here he would be that.
I’d agree that he probably won’t be one of the very best players in the world, but there’s a fair difference between that and only being “decent”. There have been plenty of strikers over the years who haven’t been the best in the world, but were very good and still excellent players. I can see Kane fitting into that category.
I don’t actually disagree with you on most of it though – it’s arguably not worth paying the sort of fee for him that Spurs will demand at the moment, and there may be other, better options abroad.
While I agree with some of this, I disagree hugely with that. If we’re going to be getting rid of RVP and Hernandez, I think we need more than just Rooney and Wilson up front. Very few clubs only have two strikers, especially when one of them is relatively inexperienced. We don’t necessarily need to buy Kane as such, but if Rooney’s going to be our only major striker left, we need to buy someone else, even if it’s just some decent backup.
The timing of this reeks of fabrication by a British press desperate for something United related to get mileage (views, newspapers, clicks and retweets) out of for a couple of months. They've known next to nothing about almost all of LvG's signings so far, until the deal has been agreed.
For the sort of money being talked about I sure hope that is all this is.
For the sort of money being talked about I sure hope that is all this is.
I just don't see it with Kane, sure he had good stats this season but when watching him he never really does anything that makes me think he is/will be a top player. The prices being mentioned are outrageous.
This idea that @GlastonSpur has that Spurs have some grand policy that they will 'never sell to an English team again' 
They've just been lucky that the last two players that outgrew them gathered interest from abroad. Just like if Liverpool can sell Sterling to a team abroad, they will. Its not a policy, its just common fecking sense. Unless @GlastonSpur is suggesting that, had Madrid not wanted Modric/Bale, and the only interest had been from Chelsea/United, that they'd still be Spurs players today?
As for Kane...no thanks.
They've just been lucky that the last two players that outgrew them gathered interest from abroad. Just like if Liverpool can sell Sterling to a team abroad, they will. Its not a policy, its just common fecking sense. Unless @GlastonSpur is suggesting that, had Madrid not wanted Modric/Bale, and the only interest had been from Chelsea/United, that they'd still be Spurs players today? As for Kane...no thanks.
Haven't quite a few places said we'd done a deal with Spurs for Bale last summer after the deal was more or less done with Madrid? So, if true, that suggest they'd do business with us if the fee was high enough.
It's semi true. Andy Carroll was very impressive at New Castle (his last 2 seasons), I would say. He seemed to be a real deal and I remember Cafs giving him a praise too. Never a 35m pound player though, 25m would be more reasonable.
No matter what he cost he was a poor fit for Liverpool.
If Kane's thinking about Champions League experience then it could be even easier to get him now. It's doubtful that Barca, Bayern and Real are for him at the moment.
GlastonSpur is so disillusioned that he sees Spurs as being almost in the same category as United.
Good player but not worth what he'll cost, basically.
We signed a left back for 31m last summer, yet some people dont think a 21 year old english centre forward who scored 21 premier league goals, 31 in total, last season is worth more than that? if you dont fancy him as a player fair enough, but unfortunately in todays market, that we ourselves have helped to escalate, he's going to cost in the 40m+ ballpark.
Spurs want to finish in the top 4 again, just as they have done twice before in recent seasons, and to do so regularly. The achievement of this ambition would not be furthered by selling Kane to United, regardless of whether or not you see Spurs as a top 4 contender. Moreover, Spurs don't need the money and Kane, who has just signed a very long contract, doesn't wish to leave. So all in all I think it's you who needs to "be real here".
Don't Spurs have to finance a few stadium somehow? How do they plan on doing this successfully without selling some of their assets/players?
Arsenal had to sell their best players for years and they actually made the CL every season unlike Spurs who don't have a realistic chance of doing that consistently or even a few times in the coming years. Is some billionaire owner bankrolling this stadium for Spurs or something?
Arsenal had to sell their best players for years and they actually made the CL every season unlike Spurs who don't have a realistic chance of doing that consistently or even a few times in the coming years. Is some billionaire owner bankrolling this stadium for Spurs or something?
The difference is that Shaw was coming off the back of two very successive seasons in the PL, and was a player that had been being monitored by the likes of United and Chelsea for a good few years, before his 'breakthrough'. He clearly wasn't a one season wonder.
Kane, on the other hand, has had a 7 great months (not even a full season as he didn't start the season as first choice). He isn't the type of player (like Shaw was) that had been identified from a youngish age as a potential star by the big boys. He'd been on loan a good few times, and I don't think many were expecting him to become a world class player. Now he could just be a late developer, of course. And I'm not saying he will be a flash in the pan, one season wonder, but what I am sating is that he could very well be.
Obviously if he has another great season, then sure, I'd be all for going in for him. But to sign a player on the back of less then one great season, and for huge money, is a massive massive risk. And one we don't need to take. Come back in 12 months, and lets see how his second season went.
This idea that @GlastonSpur has that Spurs have some grand policy that they will 'never sell to an English team again'
There will always be interest from big clubs in other leagues when it comes to talented players from the Prem. Thus the option of selling abroad will always exist (unless the player concerned refuses to leave England) and so the stated policy is entirely viable and not dependent on mere luck.
He's an average player. If we sign him I think it'll only confirm beyond doubt that the club has gone completely bonkers.
the personality he has is incomparable with someone like Carroll. He has the mentality to reach at lest the level of Shearer and that's good enough for Manutd for me, can't care less about the price. This is unfortunately very unlikely to happen so I will enjoy watching spurs next season just to see him and Ericksen play, personally hope Kane confirms his worth. Had never thought he may be this kind of heavy weight player in transfer market when I saw him 3 years ago for u21 but that's a good sign the palyer who works hard to get to the top. Again he has the mentality, and that never fails...
Don't think we should spend anything over 25m-30m on him. He does seem to have plenty of promise but then I'm not overly convinced on the extent of his potential - something intangible, I know. He seems to have an extremely well rounded game - good technique, decent pace, good hold-up play, aerial threat, finishing, work-rate, link-up play etc and most importantly seems to be grounded and someone who will strive to fulfil his potential. However, there doesn't seem to a pronounced edge to his game - if you will. There isn't exactly a particular aspect of his game which really stand out to me.
Can't quite phrase my point right, as he did bang in 21 league goals last season... Kane did have a fantastic goalscoring season but we've seen quite a few one-season wonders (Andy Johnson, D.Bent etc) which does leave me a bit sceptical. It's quite special that he had a great campaign at such at just 21 and in his break-out season, unlike most of the one-season wonders, so I could be off here.
Do think we need to see more of him before judging him and don't quite think he is ready for a move to a bigger club yet. After all it's a different ball game altogether, performing for Spurs as opposed to one of the top clubs.
Can't quite phrase my point right, as he did bang in 21 league goals last season... Kane did have a fantastic goalscoring season but we've seen quite a few one-season wonders (Andy Johnson, D.Bent etc) which does leave me a bit sceptical. It's quite special that he had a great campaign at such at just 21 and in his break-out season, unlike most of the one-season wonders, so I could be off here.
Do think we need to see more of him before judging him and don't quite think he is ready for a move to a bigger club yet. After all it's a different ball game altogether, performing for Spurs as opposed to one of the top clubs.
They can be 'big clubs', but unless they're Barcelona or Madrid specifically, English players aren't going to favour them over Chelsea and United.
If Kane has another stand out year, you're basically praying that those two are after him, because there aren't any other clubs abroad that I'd expect a Brit to favour over Chelsea, City and United.
Being English and playing well for six months is a prerequisite for stardom these days. Surely to feck he has to prove himself a top notcher yet.
Would be beyond stupid to spunk money on him at this stage, forget 40m or 50m. Though we have prided ourselves in being stupid since Fergie retired.
This is exactly how I feel. There are a few things he does well but there is nothing that really stands out in Kane's games which suggests that he is worth upwards of 40m and can become the nex great striker at United. At least not yet.
This is exactly how I feel. There are a few things he does well but there is nothing that really stands out in Kane's games which suggests that he is worth upwards of 40m and can become the nex great striker at United. At least not yet.
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You people are so bad 
Have you not learned your lesson yet?!
Last summer, no one expected Herrera, Di Maria, Rojo or Falcao to come here. They did.
Point is, none of us, including the press, have a notion who we are interested in. This Harry Kane thing is bollix
Have you not learned your lesson yet?! Last summer, no one expected Herrera, Di Maria, Rojo or Falcao to come here. They did.
Point is, none of us, including the press, have a notion who we are interested in. This Harry Kane thing is bollix
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