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Exactly. If Kane continues his development and attracts interest from Spain then he'll end up there. Spurs would obviously rather have that.

If he ends up a top player but with no Spanish interest then he's getting sold domestically. No amount of bravado can change that.

How do you work that out?

I would say 98 out 100 English players would choose United over anyone abroad.
 
How do you work that out?

I would say 98 out 100 English players would choose United over anyone abroad.

I'm not sure 98 out of 100 players would choose to join us over Real Madrid, or maybe even Barca.
 
Actually I keep telling you that Spurs will never again sell to another Prem rival (it's not exclusive to United). But despite the fact that the Berbatov saga was 7 years ago and counting - and despite the fact that United wanted Bale and that both United and Chelski wanted Modric - not many Caftards appear to have realised this reality ... at least not judging by this thread.
But why keep going on and on about it? We might as well not discuss the possibility of any Spurs player and close thread then. And this is a United forum where we currently talk about a player from a club inferior to ourselves, wich is very unlikely to consistently compete for trophies and will continue to be a stepping stone. It probably wont happen but it's not shocking that some see the possibility.
 
Madrid wanted Modric and Bale. If they didn't they would be playing for Chelsea and Utd respectively. This 'wont sell to an English club' thing is nice bravado but that's all it is, bravado.

I keep being told this. But the evidence of the last 7 years all supports what I've said, whilst zero evidence supports what you're saying. Moreover, I'd guess I know rather more than you about the post-Berbatov policies of THFC.
 
As I told you a while back when you re-quoted "Levy is lying on the beach laughing about Real's £80m bid for Bale", Levy was later seen laughing all the way to the bank to deposit the £90m that we actually ended up getting. And whether or not you think a rejection of £60m for Kane would be stupid, it would still be rejected ... for all the reasons I outlined many weeks ago.

Let me put this another way: the odds of Kane signing for United are 60 million to 1. Dream on.

First of all you didn't get £90m and secondly you said at the time it was going to take at least £160m to get him. Honestly, even if you had got £90m (you didn't) your post about laughing at £80m still looks absurd seeing as it's slightly over 10% more.

I don't even want Kane here, why would I dream about that?
 
Do not want...yet. Let him have another season to prove himself. Spending big money on someone so unproven is crazy imo. He's basically had 6 months of real performance at a top level. Spending big money on that is Zaki-stupid.

To be honest I still dont' see it either. He doesn't have any outstanding attributes, short of putting the ball into the net. Inzhagi I hear you scream, well yes, but if that's the case he needs to do it over a bigger time frame.

This reaks to me of Levy leaking rumours saying 'United are going to try to grab all our players, but don't worry Spuds army, I shall not let them have them!'. When in reality we don't really care.

On a related side note, if you were a player who honestly believed that you need to move to a prem club to show you stuff, and then move to a top club, is Spurs the worst team in the world to join? Levy would rather let players rot them sell them. I saw Spurs just released some player they signed in 2011 who literally never set foot on the pitch for em.
 
But why keep going on and on about it? We might as well not discuss the possibility of any Spurs player and close thread then. And this is a United forum where we currently talk about a player from a club inferior to ourselves, wich is very unlikely to consistently compete for trophies and will continue to be a stepping stone. It probably wont happen but it's not shocking that some see the possibility.

I agree that it's not shocking that some see the possibility. And I'm not suggesting that the thread should be closed ... it is at least entertaining. You might also bear in mind that there are only two (?) Spurs fans on this forum, with many United fans making comments that IMO bear little relation to reality ... so it's not so surprising that some response-repetition is involved.

As for stepping stone, your club also appears to be a stepping stone to RM. And since we finished above you last season, and finished only one place and 6 points below you this season, is it so surprising that Levy doesn't wish to strengthen you at our expense, regardless of money?
 
Do not want Harry Kane. Let's see how he performs for another season before spending crazy money.
 
First of all you didn't get £90m and secondly you said at the time it was going to take at least £160m to get him. Honestly, even if you had got £90m (you didn't) your post about laughing at £80m still looks absurd seeing as it's slightly over 10% more.

I don't even want Kane here, why would I dream about that?

No, I didn't say that it would take "at least £160m to get him", or if I ever did (?) then it obviously wasn't a serious comment. And yes, we did get £90m: 85.2m + 6.5m later add-on because RM won the CL, minus £2m ('FIFA Solidarity Payment' paid to S'hampton) = £89.7m
 
I keep being told this. But the evidence of the last 7 years all supports what I've said, whilst zero evidence supports what you're saying. Moreover, I'd guess I know rather more than you about the post-Berbatov policies of THFC.

You have had two 'in demand' players in that time frame and Real wanted both of them. In that same time frame Arsenal have sold multiple first team players domestically

They didn't have a choice and neither would you if no Spanish clubs get involved. Bigger clubs than Spurs can't keep hold of players who want to leave. Believing Spurs are different is delusional.
 
I agree that it's not shocking that some see the possibility. And I'm not suggesting that the thread should be closed ... it is at least entertaining. You might also bear in mind that there are only two (?) Spurs fans on this forum, with many United fans making comments that IMO bear little relation to reality ... so it's not so surprising that some response-repetition is involved.

As for stepping stone, your club also appears to be a stepping stone to RM. And since we finished above you last season, and finished only one place and 6 points below you this season, is it so surprising that Levy doesn't wish to strengthen you at our expense, regardless of money?

:lol:
 
I agree that it's not shocking that some see the possibility. And I'm not suggesting that the thread should be closed ... it is at least entertaining. You might also bear in mind that there are only two (?) Spurs fans on this forum, with many United fans making comments that IMO bear little relation to reality ... so it's not so surprising that some response-repetition is involved.

As for stepping stone, your club also appears to be a stepping stone to RM. And since we finished above you last season, and finished only one place and 6 points below you this season, is it so surprising that Levy doesn't wish to strengthen you at our expense, regardless of money?

You have a point.

If LVG really identifies Kane as a primary target, it doesn't matter to Levy if MUFC buys him for £70m because Spurs have already proven that they have no idea how to spend that type of money and even if they did...they simply are not attractive to the top tier players.

MUFC could be out of the champions league for 2 years successively and still attract a higher caliber of player than Spurs can dream of attracting. It must be a tough position for Spurs to be in.

So hang on to Kane (and Eriksen) as long as you can because they wouldn't be there for much longer.
 
Erm... that a pretty huge difference for a striker...


Yeah just the 25 goals difference ! He's on a different planet to Welbeck as far as finishing goes. He scores goals, who really cares what else he does or doesn't do.
 
You have had two 'in demand' players in that time frame and Real wanted both of them. In that same time frame Arsenal have sold multiple first team players domestically

They didn't have a choice and neither would you if no Spanish clubs get involved. Bigger clubs than Spurs can't keep hold of players who want to leave. Believing Spurs are different is delusional.

I can't speak for what Arsenal chose to do ... and in any case you have to take into account the contract situations of at least some of the players concerned. Also, there are other foreign CL clubs aside from just those in Spain. And finally, Kane has expressed no wish to leave ... quite the opposite.
 
I'd love Kane at United, but 1) Levy be asking for silly money and 2) the money we could potentially spend for him after one season could be a risk.

If we could get him for like 35M, then I think it's worth the gamble. He's young, English, talented and from what was shown last season, a goalscorer.
 
I can't speak for what Arsenal chose to do ... and in any case you have to take into account the contract situations of at least some of the players concerned. Also, there are other foreign CL clubs aside from just those in Spain. And finally, Kane has expressed no wish to leave ... quite the opposite.

Everyone is biased towards their own club, I get that. But the idea that you wouldn't sell domestically is delusional. Real saved you from that with Modric and Bale, that's a rarity and not the norm.
 
I agree that it's not shocking that some see the possibility. And I'm not suggesting that the thread should be closed ... it is at least entertaining. You might also bear in mind that there are only two (?) Spurs fans on this forum, with many United fans making comments that IMO bear little relation to reality ... so it's not so surprising that some response-repetition is involved.

As for stepping stone, your club also appears to be a stepping stone to RM. And since we finished above you last season, and finished only one place and 6 points below you this season, is it so surprising that Levy doesn't wish to strengthen you at our expense, regardless of money?
You finished above us in a season where the club was in a mess but lets be real here, in the years to come I don't think many level headed people see Spurs as a genuine rival to United, Chelse and City. As for Madrid; Ronaldo had a dream to play there, DDG is from the city, and his girlfriend lives there. Most clubs struggle when Madrid wants a player.
 
You finished above us in a season where the club was in a mess but lets be real here, in the years to come I don't think many level headed people see Spurs as a genuine rival to United, Chelse and City. As for Madrid; Ronaldo had a dream to play there, DDG is from the city, and his girlfriend lives there. Most clubs struggle when Madrid wants a player.

Not when they want a manager though, thankfully.
 
With the Levy factor, upwards of 40mil. And unless someone can convince Benzema or Lewandowski to come strut their stuff over here then I wouldn't say it is a bad thing. Really what do we care if the club pays loads for Harry Kane, it just comes down to if we think he can do the job for us.
Then how much more could it rise. We won't be seeing world record fees for him anyway unless he scores 40+ goals next season.
 
We will sign him next summer. It will be a season of shite at Spurs. His head will be turned.

He ain't leaving now though.
 
He is worth a lot more than that.
He really isn't. We just signed a Dutch international who had a decent World Cup and a great season in which his team won the league for £21m, there's no way Kane is worth a lot more.
 
He really isn't. We just signed a Dutch international who had a decent World Cup and a great season in which his team won the league for £21m, there's no way Kane is worth a lot more.
Juventus just signed Dybala for 32m euros, and he had 13 goals and 10 assists in a weaker league. (23m gbp).

You have to consider the amounts of goals, the long contract, the player not wanting out, the team not wanting to sell, him being english and more.
Depay was ready for a step up, the dutch league is a stepping stone league for the top players, and they aren't known to hold out for stupid-cash, Depay was close, if not the one who cost the most from the Eresdivision.
 
He really isn't. We just signed a Dutch international who had a decent World Cup and a great season in which his team won the league for £21m, there's no way Kane is worth a lot more.

With all add-ons that is the outgoing transfer record for the Dutch league, so I don't think they're comparable. Dutch clubs don't have nearly as much money as PL clubs and Memphis will never be homegrown for English clubs either.
 
Juventus just signed Dybala for 32m euros, and he had 13 goals and 10 assists in a weaker league. (23m gbp).

You have to consider the amounts of goals, the long contract, the player not wanting out, the team not wanting to sell, him being english and more.
Depay was ready for a step up, the dutch league is a stepping stone league for the top players, and they aren't known to hold out for stupid-cash, Depay was close, if not the one who cost the most from the Eresdivision.
Dybala's potential is much bigger than Kane's. They should probably go for a similar figure though.
 
Dybala's potential is much bigger than Kane's. They should probably go for a similar figure though.
How do you quantify their potential?
"Much bigger potential" sounds more like "i like his style better".

Claiming to know players potential is just stupid, both are top talents.
 
How do you quantify their potential?
"Much bigger potential" sounds more like "i like his style better".

Claiming to know players potential is just stupid, both are top talents.
Yeah, was going to say something similar.
 
It'd be an exciting transfer for certain.
But the idea of trying to negotiate with Tottenham would be horrific, and would end up as a ludicrous fee.
 
How do you quantify their potential?
"Much bigger potential" sounds more like "i like his style better".

Claiming to know players potential is just stupid, both are top talents.
I don't think Kane is a top talent at all. He'll be a decent league forward. Spending £50m+ on him would be an equivalent of £35m for Carroll.
 
I don't think Kane is a top talent at all. He'll be a decent league forward. Spending £50m+ on him would be an equivalent of £35m for Carroll.

do you think this season was a flukey one off?
Almost like a Dazza Bent or someone?
 
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