Mciahel Goodman
Worst Werewolf Player of All Times
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The only player we've lost to Madrid that we didn't want to get rid of was Ronaldo. De Gea nearly left, but he didn't. Those are the facts.
I was quite obviously referring to the bit about us having sold more players to them than you. Why do you think that is?Because RM are a bigger draw than United, by some margin.
You pay him nowhere near what he'd earn if he played for us.
I was quite obviously referring to the bit about us having sold more players to them than you. Why do you think that is?
Because you've a longer tradition of being their feeder club?
You're making assumptions. You do that.True, but I doubt the difference would be as great as you imagine: see post #451.
But in any case it makes no difference because Kane is still beyond your reach for a variety of other reasons. United have learnt - or at least should have learnt - the limits of bludgeoning money power over the last 3 seasons. It's not a substitute for more important factors. But hey, carry one believing otherwise if you wish.
Never heard that one before...according to Fergie's book its true, surprisingSo, you wanted to get rid of Ronaldo? Bollocks you did. He wanted to go and RM offered you a ton of money - just as happened with Bale at Spurs.
And you wanted to get rid of RvN? Also bollocks - United would have loved to have kept him if he hadn't insisted on having a RM clause in his contract, so again RM is underlying cause of his departure.
And de Gea? Do you want rid of him to RM also? That sale would have happened last summer if not for a technicality.
True, but I doubt the difference would be as great as you imagine: see post #451.
But in any case it makes no difference because Kane is still beyond your reach for a variety of other reasons. United have learnt - or at least should have learnt - the limits of bludgeoning money power over the last 3 seasons. It's not a substitute for more important factors. But hey, carry one believing otherwise if you wish.
Why don't you answer the question instead of reverting to WUM mode?
But you do have a longer tradition of selling to RM than Spurs - much longer in fact. It started with Beckham in 2003, then RvN in 2006 and so on. Beckham's sale was 9 years before we sold Modric. So it's only logical that since you started far earlier than we did you've now sold more players to RM than we have.
He would probably double his wage at United and get even more money from the off pitch deals. Would be a massive differenceI wonder what the difference would really be, Kane in some reports will be on 110k a week at Spurs, at Utd let's say it's 200k or 4.5m more a year. He probably makes another say 5m for his off pitch deals, so after tax the difference would probably be say 2.5-3m a year, I think that's at least a fair assumption. Is that enough to move from Spurs to Utd for financial reasons, I doubt it especially whilst his image and rep continues to blossom at Spurs with a CL stage next season. Also does he want to play for a manager he knows and trusts or an increasingly egocentric one that believes life and football is all about himself? No doubt in my mind he's much better off where he is.
I was quite obviously referring to the bit about us having sold more players to them than you. Why do you think that is?
Why don't you answer the question instead of reverting to WUM mode?
Real want, Real get.
If you've sold less players to them, it's because you've had less of them that they wanted.
Arguing who is Real's bigger bitch is just weird.
Naah, as I said in my first post, Real want, Real get. Have absolutely no interest in trying to convince myself or anyone else otherwise.
I hope for your sake that you're wumming because the alternative is that you're stupid which is worse.
Unless Tottenham Hotspur did not exist back then, the reason why you didn't sell players to them is the same as why you've sold just 2 in recent history. Your club hasn't had players good enough to interest Real Madrid. It's like a Wimbledon fan turning up here and acting cocky because they haven't sold a player to Real ever. Not having players good enough to interest a top club isn't something to be proud of unless you're, well, you.So, the fact that you started selling star players to RM 9 years before Spurs did - and have continued to sell to RM since then - has no bearing on the number of players sold to RM by each of the two clubs to date?
You're clearly not a great believer in common sense.
Blah blah blah, Spurs is much bigger and better than United! Look at the trends, we're on the rise blah blah..
Honestly, every Spurs or Spurs-related thread ends up being a dick swining contest between the few Spurs-supportes on this forum with a major inferiority complex against the United-supporters with an inferiority complex.
Unless Tottenham Hotspur did not exist back then, the reason why you didn't sell players to them is the same as why you've sold just 2 in recent history. Your club hasn't had players good enough to interest Real Madrid. It's like a Wimbledon fan turning up here and acting cocky because they haven't sold a player to Real ever. Not having players good enough to interest a top club isn't something to be proud of unless you're, well, you.
Nah, it's my take on your feelings towards the two clubs in more or less any thread about Spurs. I'm not really bothered about wether Kane stays at Spurs, joins United or is shipped off to the Mines of Moria to be honest. He seems to enjoy his stay at Spurs right now and will stay for a while if the club can show that they'll fight for trophies in the upcoming years. It's not hard to imagine he'll want to leave in a few years if you're still not winning anything (except the 3rd place trophy), would you say?None of the posts from any Spurs supporter in this thread have said that Spurs are "much bigger" than United, although we have been better than United in 2 of the last 3 seasons.
So either your piss is being boiled by your own flawed imaginings, or else by the sense that Kane is beyond United's reach. Either way, it would seem to be your superiority complex that's feeling threatened here.
Yes, all players Real tried to sign and failed because of the keeping power Tottenham had. Good for you.Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and more are all waving at you from their front-row seats, eating popcorn and watching the unfolding disaster of your posts with great fascination.
I wonder what the difference would really be, Kane in some reports will be on 110k a week at Spurs, at Utd let's say it's 200k or 4.5m more a year. He probably makes another say 5m for his off pitch deals, so after tax the difference would probably be say 2.5-3m a year, I think that's at least a fair assumption. Is that enough to move from Spurs to Utd for financial reasons, I doubt it especially whilst his image and rep continues to blossom at Spurs with a CL stage next season. Also does he want to play for a manager he knows and trusts or an increasingly egocentric one that believes life and football is all about himself? No doubt in my mind he's much better off where he is.
Nonsense. They fought to keep Ian Walker and Sergi Rebrov with every defiant bone in their body.Unless Tottenham Hotspur did not exist back then, the reason why you didn't sell players to them is the same as why you've sold just 2 in recent history. Your club hasn't had players good enough to interest Real Madrid. It's like a Wimbledon fan turning up here and acting cocky because they haven't sold a player to Real ever. Not having players good enough to interest a top club isn't something to be proud of unless you're, well, you.
Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and more are all waving at you from their front-row seats, eating popcorn and watching the unfolding disaster of your posts with great fascination.
Yes, all players Real tried to sign and failed because of the keeping power Tottenham had. Good for you.
Klinsmann was an old man. Ginola wasn't top tier and you sold the rest to bigger clubs as soon as they made a name for themselves!According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.
According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.
According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.
Ah those were the glory days, title after title, no one could get close to that Spurs team.Yes, all players Real tried to sign and failed because of the keeping power Tottenham had. Good for you.
Real weren't in the Galacticos business when they were playing. Next.
And I'm being generous. Out of all the names you listed, Gascoigne and Lineker are the only two who were big enough to attract attention from top continental clubs at the time. There were better options for them during the 90s.
Real weren't in the Galacticos business when they were playing. Next.
And I'm being generous. Out of all the names you listed, Gascoigne and Lineker are the only two who were big enough to attract attention from top continental clubs at the time. There were better options for them during the 90s.
According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.
You don't think double pay is "enough" to motivate someone to move clubs?
I think he'd earn more than double actually. His sponsorships as the poster boy of United would balloon.