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The only player we've lost to Madrid that we didn't want to get rid of was Ronaldo. De Gea nearly left, but he didn't. Those are the facts.
 
Its time for Harry Kane to move to a top club
 
You pay him nowhere near what he'd earn if he played for us.

True, but I doubt the difference would be as great as you imagine: see post #451.

But in any case it makes no difference because Kane is still beyond your reach for a variety of other reasons. United have learnt - or at least should have learnt - the limits of bludgeoning money power over the last 3 seasons. It's not a substitute for more important factors. But hey, carry one believing otherwise if you wish.
 
I was quite obviously referring to the bit about us having sold more players to them than you. Why do you think that is?

Because you've a longer tradition of being their feeder club?
 
True, but I doubt the difference would be as great as you imagine: see post #451.

But in any case it makes no difference because Kane is still beyond your reach for a variety of other reasons. United have learnt - or at least should have learnt - the limits of bludgeoning money power over the last 3 seasons. It's not a substitute for more important factors. But hey, carry one believing otherwise if you wish.
You're making assumptions. You do that.

I don't think he'd wish to leave you, at the moment. Reckon he likes the club, likes the manager, and feels he's progressing.
 
Spurs were a big of a shock as Leicester were last year. He will be within reach soon enough.
 
So, you wanted to get rid of Ronaldo? Bollocks you did. He wanted to go and RM offered you a ton of money - just as happened with Bale at Spurs.

And you wanted to get rid of RvN? Also bollocks - United would have loved to have kept him if he hadn't insisted on having a RM clause in his contract, so again RM is underlying cause of his departure.

And de Gea? Do you want rid of him to RM also? That sale would have happened last summer if not for a technicality.
Never heard that one before...according to Fergie's book its true, surprising
 
True, but I doubt the difference would be as great as you imagine: see post #451.

But in any case it makes no difference because Kane is still beyond your reach for a variety of other reasons. United have learnt - or at least should have learnt - the limits of bludgeoning money power over the last 3 seasons. It's not a substitute for more important factors. But hey, carry one believing otherwise if you wish.

I wonder what the difference would really be, Kane in some reports will be on 110k a week at Spurs, at Utd let's say it's 200k or 4.5m more a year. He probably makes another say 5m for his off pitch deals, so after tax the difference would probably be say 2.5-3m a year, I think that's at least a fair assumption. Is that enough to move from Spurs to Utd for financial reasons, I doubt it especially whilst his image and rep continues to blossom at Spurs with a CL stage next season. Also does he want to play for a manager he knows and trusts or an increasingly egocentric one that believes life and football is all about himself? No doubt in my mind he's much better off where he is.
 
Why don't you answer the question instead of reverting to WUM mode?

But you do have a longer tradition of selling to RM than Spurs - much longer in fact. It started with Beckham in 2003, then RvN in 2006 and so on. Beckham's sale was 9 years before we sold Modric. So it's only logical that since you started far earlier than we did you've now sold more players to RM than we have.
 
But you do have a longer tradition of selling to RM than Spurs - much longer in fact. It started with Beckham in 2003, then RvN in 2006 and so on. Beckham's sale was 9 years before we sold Modric. So it's only logical that since you started far earlier than we did you've now sold more players to RM than we have.

I hope for your sake that you're wumming because the alternative is that you're stupid which is worse.
 
I wonder what the difference would really be, Kane in some reports will be on 110k a week at Spurs, at Utd let's say it's 200k or 4.5m more a year. He probably makes another say 5m for his off pitch deals, so after tax the difference would probably be say 2.5-3m a year, I think that's at least a fair assumption. Is that enough to move from Spurs to Utd for financial reasons, I doubt it especially whilst his image and rep continues to blossom at Spurs with a CL stage next season. Also does he want to play for a manager he knows and trusts or an increasingly egocentric one that believes life and football is all about himself? No doubt in my mind he's much better off where he is.
He would probably double his wage at United and get even more money from the off pitch deals. Would be a massive difference
 
I was quite obviously referring to the bit about us having sold more players to them than you. Why do you think that is?

Why don't you answer the question instead of reverting to WUM mode?

Real want, Real get.

If you've sold less players to them, it's because you've had less of them that they wanted.

Arguing who is Real's bigger bitch is just weird.

:D
 
Naah, as I said in my first post, Real want, Real get. Have absolutely no interest in trying to convince myself or anyone else otherwise.

Just wanted Glaston to accept that his club has just had 2 players worth taking in recent history. Both of which Real did take. He's either a WUM who's pretending not to know this or stupid enough not to realise this.
 
Blah blah blah, Spurs is much bigger and better than United! Look at the trends, we're on the rise blah blah..

Honestly, every Spurs or Spurs-related thread ends up being a dick swining contest between the few Spurs-supportes on this forum with a major inferiority complex against the United-supporters with an inferiority complex.
 
I hope for your sake that you're wumming because the alternative is that you're stupid which is worse.

So, the fact that you started selling star players to RM 9 years before Spurs did - and have continued to sell to RM since then - has no bearing on the number of players sold to RM by each of the two clubs to date?

You're clearly not a great believer in common sense.
 
So, the fact that you started selling star players to RM 9 years before Spurs did - and have continued to sell to RM since then - has no bearing on the number of players sold to RM by each of the two clubs to date?

You're clearly not a great believer in common sense.
Unless Tottenham Hotspur did not exist back then, the reason why you didn't sell players to them is the same as why you've sold just 2 in recent history. Your club hasn't had players good enough to interest Real Madrid. It's like a Wimbledon fan turning up here and acting cocky because they haven't sold a player to Real ever. Not having players good enough to interest a top club isn't something to be proud of unless you're, well, you.
 
Blah blah blah, Spurs is much bigger and better than United! Look at the trends, we're on the rise blah blah..

Honestly, every Spurs or Spurs-related thread ends up being a dick swining contest between the few Spurs-supportes on this forum with a major inferiority complex against the United-supporters with an inferiority complex.

None of the posts from any Spurs supporter in this thread have said that Spurs are "much bigger" than United, although we have been better than United in 2 of the last 3 seasons.

So either your piss is being boiled by your own flawed imaginings, or else by the sense that Kane is beyond United's reach. Either way, it would seem to be your superiority complex that's feeling threatened here.
 
how can you be on another clubs forum and talk about superiority complexes?
 
Unless Tottenham Hotspur did not exist back then, the reason why you didn't sell players to them is the same as why you've sold just 2 in recent history. Your club hasn't had players good enough to interest Real Madrid. It's like a Wimbledon fan turning up here and acting cocky because they haven't sold a player to Real ever. Not having players good enough to interest a top club isn't something to be proud of unless you're, well, you.

:lol: Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and more are all waving at you from their front-row seats, eating popcorn and watching the unfolding disaster of your posts with great fascination.
 
None of the posts from any Spurs supporter in this thread have said that Spurs are "much bigger" than United, although we have been better than United in 2 of the last 3 seasons.

So either your piss is being boiled by your own flawed imaginings, or else by the sense that Kane is beyond United's reach. Either way, it would seem to be your superiority complex that's feeling threatened here.
Nah, it's my take on your feelings towards the two clubs in more or less any thread about Spurs. I'm not really bothered about wether Kane stays at Spurs, joins United or is shipped off to the Mines of Moria to be honest. He seems to enjoy his stay at Spurs right now and will stay for a while if the club can show that they'll fight for trophies in the upcoming years. It's not hard to imagine he'll want to leave in a few years if you're still not winning anything (except the 3rd place trophy), would you say?

Not really sure where you get the part of a superiority complex from either, nor that I feel threatened :lol: I honestly dont care about Spurs, except the part where you make me wish them nothing but misery every time I get lost in these Spurs-threads. there are hardly any Spurs-supportes in Norway, so no matter which of you lot, Leicester; Sunderland or Burnley who is performing well does not really affect me one bit :D
 
:lol: Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and more are all waving at you from their front-row seats, eating popcorn and watching the unfolding disaster of your posts with great fascination.
Yes, all players Real tried to sign and failed because of the keeping power Tottenham had. Good for you.
 
I wonder what the difference would really be, Kane in some reports will be on 110k a week at Spurs, at Utd let's say it's 200k or 4.5m more a year. He probably makes another say 5m for his off pitch deals, so after tax the difference would probably be say 2.5-3m a year, I think that's at least a fair assumption. Is that enough to move from Spurs to Utd for financial reasons, I doubt it especially whilst his image and rep continues to blossom at Spurs with a CL stage next season. Also does he want to play for a manager he knows and trusts or an increasingly egocentric one that believes life and football is all about himself? No doubt in my mind he's much better off where he is.

You don't think double pay is "enough" to motivate someone to move clubs?

I think he'd earn more than double actually. His sponsorships as the poster boy of United would balloon.
 
I saw Kane in the youth as would many have. Keane, Wilson, Rashford have similar potential. Just enjoy your player and avoid Kane threads seriously. When people talk about a player it's out of respect. When they say sign a player, it's because they want to sign a player. There's nothing superior about it. As far as I know, United have barely tapped him up in the past ;). We've not pulled a barca or Madrid on Spurs. We did you a favor over paying for Carrick. Your club are tight. Just enjoy it for the love of God. You would think you would be tormenting Arsenal fans on their forums but no cause you finished under them. You are a troublemaker lol
 
Unless Tottenham Hotspur did not exist back then, the reason why you didn't sell players to them is the same as why you've sold just 2 in recent history. Your club hasn't had players good enough to interest Real Madrid. It's like a Wimbledon fan turning up here and acting cocky because they haven't sold a player to Real ever. Not having players good enough to interest a top club isn't something to be proud of unless you're, well, you.
Nonsense. They fought to keep Ian Walker and Sergi Rebrov with every defiant bone in their body.
 
Yes, all players Real tried to sign and failed because of the keeping power Tottenham had. Good for you.

According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.
 
According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.
Klinsmann was an old man. Ginola wasn't top tier and you sold the rest to bigger clubs as soon as they made a name for themselves!
Being number 5 or so in Linekers grand tour of football doesn't mean a lot tbh.
 
According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.

You can do these roundabout arguments all day long for all I care. The point is very simple. If Real want a Tottenham player, 9 times out of 10, they will get him. If Real want a United player, 9 times out of 10, they will get him. If Real want a Crystal Palace Player, 9 times out of 10, they will get him. The reason why some clubs would have sold more players to them than others is because they had more players that interested Real and not some make believe holding power shit only someone as deluded like you could come up with.
 
According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.

Real weren't in the Galacticos business when they were playing. Next.

And I'm being generous. Out of all the names you listed, Gascoigne and Lineker are the only two who were big enough to attract attention from top continental clubs at the time. There were better options for them during the 90s.
 
I like how Glaston slyly puts Klinsmann in that list, a player signed from some French club and sold to Munich a season later :lol:

Everytime I think Glaston can't make a more ridiculous point, he goes ahead and does it.
 
Yes, all players Real tried to sign and failed because of the keeping power Tottenham had. Good for you.
Ah those were the glory days, title after title, no one could get close to that Spurs team.
 
Real weren't in the Galacticos business when they were playing. Next.

And I'm being generous. Out of all the names you listed, Gascoigne and Lineker are the only two who were big enough to attract attention from top continental clubs at the time. There were better options for them during the 90s.

Actually, I thought Ginola was a good profile. Didn't he have a stormer of a season for PSG and was widely expected to sign for Real Madrid or Barcelona but ended up signing with Newcastle under Keegan? Spurs only got Ginola because Dalglish didn't fancy him. If I were a Newcastle supporter and I was Glaston, I'd say Newcastle never didn't sell any players to real madrid till Jonathan Woodgate in 2004, and then claim Real Madrid is our bitch because we beat them to signing Ginola.
 
Real weren't in the Galacticos business when they were playing. Next.

And I'm being generous. Out of all the names you listed, Gascoigne and Lineker are the only two who were big enough to attract attention from top continental clubs at the time. There were better options for them during the 90s.

Surprised he didn't mention Waddle. Brilliant player and left Spurs for a hefty fee back then.
 
According to you, none of Gascoigne, Ginola, Hoddle, Ardiles, Lineker, Klinsmann and others were "players good enough to interest a top club". So, seeing as your judge of footballing talent is so spot on, that must be why RM weren't interested in any of them.

Is that a list of your best players?

:lol:

No wonder you're so arsey.
 
Anyway I doubt Harry Kane is motivated by money. He seems a genuinely good, enthusiastic footballer enjoying the bubble he is in at Spurs. Take into account he didn't have an easy ride to the first team. Various stints around the block as a kid, then sent out on loan to lower leagues. Usually a clubs best youth talents are earmarked and fast-tracked but that seems not to be the case with Kane. Spurs didn't have much luck with strikers during that time either. He had to work the hard yards and Pochettino saw something in him to give him his run and he's not looked back. At 22 he already plays like a mature player. Great case of local boy coming good.
 
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