We're talking ~£700k-1m a week in wages. You can be as down to earth as you please, i'd like to see how he'll react to that
Harry Kane MBE | Performances
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Yep the fact everyone here disagrees with you makes me the delusional one.
The same way every player from every club in the league would act, their is a reason their hasn't been a bid for him, you don't just bid for a player, you contact his representative s to see if he's interested, if not a waste of time, I'd love him to sign for us but It won't happen ever imo, if he signs another long term contract then he will be priced out of a move, because it's not just if a club wants him and he wants to go, they would want full compensation of what they believe he is worth to them on and off the pitch, not what the buying club believe he's worth, it is the Harry Kane team after all.
At the moment he is priceless
If you read the thread you'll see many agree with him despite here being the HQ of Kane fans.
Well they are all wrong. Harry Kane if he ever moves will break the world transfer record. If he doesn't break the world record, it will be mightily close. We're talking at least £150 million and that is conservative and considering transfer fees are rising all the time as we just saw with a non world class CB in Van Dijk moving for 75 million. The arguably best striker in the world will be double that at least and that's if he were to move this summer...which he won't . Say in three years time, he'd cost over 200 million.
Even Perez himself said Kane would be the most expensive transfer deal in history. I think he'd know...
Not just that, but Cristiano Ronaldo has so much power in the Real Madrid locker room he could force Harry to be ostracised as his ego couldn't cope with Harry outscoring him, and jolly-English-down-to-earth-lad-have-a-nice-day-smile Harry doesn't have the personality to cope with that.
Still amazes me that people don't think Harry is worth a record fee, £100M some people think. He's unmarketsbke is he? Can someone please tell me why that is? Rooney was an absolute goblin but yet still managed to get record sponsorship deals while shagging grannies and drinking/smoking.
The facts are sherry is playing in a top league, banging in goals for fun.
The facts are sherry is playing in a top league, banging in goals for fun.
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Which part do you believe to be delusional?
That Kane would 'dwarf' the £200m Neymar went for. Not a chance. To 'dwarf' something it must be considerably more, so we're talking what, £300m? At least close to that. That's delusional.
No one said Kane was unmarketable, but he's a nobody compared to Neymar. Neymar has 36.5m followers on Twitter, compared to 1.4m for Kane (even Zabaleta, a full-back, has double that). As far as I'm aware only Ronaldo and LeBron James are more followed sportspeople on Twitter than Neymar. He's one of a few names in football than transcends the sport. It's hardly going to impact the value of a player much, but there's no denying it influenced PSG to activate his release clause. They didn't just want an insanely talented player, they wanted a superstar, and were willing to pay whatever was needed to land him. He was a unique case.
Thats pretty much spot on.
Too true, the days that footballers are only bought for football only are over. The marketing side of things plays a huge part on the sums involved.
I think there's some exaggeration on both sides of the argument.
He's certainly worth upwards of €150m, no way he goes for 100m but isn't anywhere close to Neymar level and has average marketing value.
Next months will be very interesting for him, great performances in CL and WC could definitely establish him as the best potential attacking recruit not in a mega rich club yet or earn him a reputation of another bottler in the biggest games.
There is no notion of what a 'Harry Kane' is worth as if you could buy one at the supermarket. You can't just say 'well Neymar (who had a buy-out clause) went for x, Kane should go for y. Instead the question would be what he is worth to Tottenham, his contract situation, is he settled etc. If you add all that up you get a notion of what he might be sold for if the buyer is willing to spend that. My bet is that his value to Tottenham is a lot higher than what they could get for 200m, let alone 100m.
Wish we bought him instead of Lukaku and no offence to the Belgian, but he has a much lower ceiling than Kane. Even if we had to pay 150 million this summer, it would have been money well spent.
Oh well, let's hope the next big English talent can land at Manchester United, just like Rooney did back in the day.
Oh well, let's hope the next big English talent can land at Manchester United, just like Rooney did back in the day.
Exactly so. Kane is top scorer in 2017 across all of Europe's top 5 leagues, ahead of Messi and Ronaldo, and is on track the win the Prem's Golden Boot for the 3rd season running.
In short, he's a goal machine, provides much more than just goals for his team and doesn't play in the backwater French league.
Neymar not better than Kane? 
Neymar not better than Kane?
I think Kane is the best striker on the planet and I'd take him over Neymar in a heartbeat.
Kane is a fantastic striker but Neymar is a top 3 player in the world with match-winning quality that Kane at the moment doesn't have compared to Neymar.
Neymar and Kane are very different players though. They bring entirely different qualities to a side. I actually think they'd work brilliantly as a 9 and a 10 in the same team, given the right set-up behind them. It would just be an extremely complementary partnership.
I also think that Kane is the best strike in the world, and i would also take him over Neymar.
Just in terms of attitude and mentality i would prefer Kane. He's a machine at the moment.
Just in terms of attitude and mentality i would prefer Kane. He's a machine at the moment.
This is all true but the the problem is that the sale since then has inflated, an already inflated, market beyond belief. Even Mbappe is bound to go for a crazy 100m+ sum. I think Spurs won't sell Kane for anything less than 180-200m, if even that. If Madrid sell off Ronaldo the next summer, they will save on a whole lotta wages and can see them throwing than much for Kane easy.
Neymar is up there with Ronaldo and Messi in terms of renown and stature. Kane is only just beginning to receive recognition following the recent coverage from Marca - his renown will only widen in the coming months though. Can see Kane reaching Shearer levels of ability before long.
Kane is an incredible striker, but come on it’s extremely generous to say he’s better than Neymar.
Extremely effective, but Neymar’s a proven match-winner at the very top of the game for a number of years. Kane needs to do more at the absolute top which I’m sure he can. FYI I am a huge Kane fan.
Extremely effective, but Neymar’s a proven match-winner at the very top of the game for a number of years. Kane needs to do more at the absolute top which I’m sure he can. FYI I am a huge Kane fan.
He needs to leave Tottenham to be classed in that bracket.
The arguments about "reknown" and "stature" are all so much hot air really. The fact that Neymar has many more Twitter followers or is more "marketable" does not improve his footballing ability or team contribution.
Kane consistently scores goals by the bucketload, many of which he self-creates. He also contributes a hell of a lot to the team's all-round play, rarely gets injured and is a model professional who dedicates himself to getting better and better.
I doubt if club managers, weighing up which player they'd rather have and looking at the footballing facts, care a jot about how many people follow Kane on Twitter.
Kane consistently scores goals by the bucketload, many of which he self-creates. He also contributes a hell of a lot to the team's all-round play, rarely gets injured and is a model professional who dedicates himself to getting better and better.
I doubt if club managers, weighing up which player they'd rather have and looking at the footballing facts, care a jot about how many people follow Kane on Twitter.
Obviously being EPL golden boot winner 3 times in a row means more than being voted 3rd best player in the world 3 times in a row. The guys over here (England) must know something the rest of the world doesn't.
Just look at Neymars history and goalscoring at all levels to see he is a phenomenon as a forward. Over 100 goals for Santos as a kid, same for Barca while playing Left Wing Forward. As a forward for Brazil he has 53 goals in 83 games. He has also done it in big crunch CL games, finals and internationally (including the world cup). Its almost as if the EPL trumps all other football levels. Neymars resume is considerably better. He can play all across the attack line and score goals, win games with moments of magic, provide assists, free kicks,
Depends what you value most really
Neymar’s record for Brazil puts him in that elite tier
Well, yes, it does mean more (albeit Kane has not yet won his 3rd Golden Boot): it's actual goals scored compared to 3rd-place votes cast for players who are/were at glamourous clubs and surrounded by the likes of Messi and Iniesta.
Some people just want to be associated with "big names" and highly successful clubs ... and votes cast are influenced by this.
Kane IMO is now the world's best striker and his goal-scoring record is simply phenomenal. If you don't think that plenty of managers would take him ahead of Neymar then perhaps you are too dazzled by the popping of flash-bulbs.
Kane is nowhere near Neymar.
That's Tim Sherwood level hyperbole. Kane isnt anywhere near Neymar, and I cant ever see him reaching that level. The difference is, Kane's a great goalscorer, but Neymar is a great player. Neymar can carry the expectations of Brazil, the most expectant footballing nation on the planet, and perform, he at times outshone both Messi and Suarez at Barca, and had won every club competition by the age of 24. Kane needs to go to a major club and actually win things, it's not enough to stay in his comfort zone and claim he's better than a player who I think will be regarded as one of the best of this generation (ie Neymar).
Nah. I'm dazzled by a 25 year old who already has 300 competitive goals who can also do the spectacular like the very best players in history could.
Winning trophies is not the measure of how good an individual player is: winning trophies is a team/squad effort.
By the way, Kane is great player too, offering far more than just goals ... as anyone who sees him play regularly will know.
And whilst we're on the subject of "comfort zones", Neymar now plays in a one-horse, back-water league.
Pretty much. Its like a Shearer vs Romario or Shearer vs Weah. Some are out winning major honours while contributing heavily, whilst others are content being the star of MoTD, not getting out of a comfort zone of being a main man in a team that doesn't need to win things.
Winning trophies whilst being the star of a team is precisely what makes a player great. Neymar went to PSG because he wanted to be the star, not in the shadow of Messi, it has nothing to do with comfort zones for him, and if anything has now heaped more pressure on himself with the price tag and expectation. The fact that he's left his home country, thousands of miles away, and now played in two different European countries, is testament to that. Could Kane do that?
Only Spurs fans could come up with such nonsense. Kane is a very good player, but Neymar is heading toward all-time-greats status, especially if he wins the World Cup with Brazil. I dont think anyone would argue that Shearer was better than Nazario Ronaldo or Ronaldinho, and likewise the comparison here is way off the mark.
Lol ... playing in a one-horse, backwater league, for a team funded by sugar daddies
... if that's "heaping pressure on himself" then words lose their meaning. So now he can be the "star" in a minor galaxy and win lots of French league titles. Hurray .... except no-one will care.What makes a player great is being a great player, regardless of the team they play and how many trophies that team has won. Kane is a phenomenal player who would be in a World XI as their striker. If Neymar would also be in that team then fine, it puts him on a par with Kane and nothing more.
Lol ... playing in a one-horse, backwater league, for a team funded by sugar daddies
What makes a player great is being a great player, regardless of the team they play and how many trophies that team has won. Kane is a phenomenal player who would be in a World XI as their striker. If Neymar would also be in that team then fine, it puts him on a par with Kane and nothing more.
Kane is on a par with Lewandowski, which is a level below Neymar.
I truly love Kane and this he is all class, but Neymar is the better all around player. Kane in undoubtebly the better finisher atm but Neymar is the better footballer. I think Neymar can have more of an impact throughout a match than Kane. He can dictate play and the flow of match better and has more overall abilities.
Neymar is a super star. Even those who don't follow football know him, teenage girls are crazy about him. He has David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo kind of fame.
Kane has not yet reached that level of fame and acclaim.
Also as a player Neymar is already a elite, while Kane is just entering the scene.
Kane has not yet reached that level of fame and acclaim.
Also as a player Neymar is already a elite, while Kane is just entering the scene.
Kane is far better than the overrated Neymar. What sort of world superstar drops down into an inferior league. Only 3rd best player at Barcelona, who are doing far better since he left.