Harry Kane MBE | Performances

I do find the chance creation stat of both players rather interesting. Kane is widely considered to be the more influential of the two outside the box, yet the stats above show that lukaku is ahead of his rival in that department by a significantly large margin (220 - 128 in favour of Lukaku) which pretty much blows the whole 'Kane is more creative than Lukaku' argument right out of the water.

Also, I agree that Lukaku improved his game over the course of last season. His crossing alone has come on leaps and bounds, not to mention his vastly improved touch in and around the box. He is still a relatively young footballer with a good attitude and a willingness to progress his all-around game. I think we will see an even better Lukaku next season.

I tend to agree with all of that. I reckon that Kane will always edge Rom purely on goal scoring on account of him being more single minded and taking pens. Lukaku will create more for others over the course of the season though. If he’s scoring around 30 a season then we can be happy, especially if the supporting cast step up to the mark.
 
The better Kane gets, the bigger the excuses get for why he isnt "that good." It's fecking weird. "He's just a one season wonder" turned to "see if he can remain at that high standard" which then turned into "see if he can do it in the Champions League" which then turned into "see if he can do it in the World Cup" which evolves into "he's only played shit teams." It's amusing. He's an incredible player.

I haven’t seen anyone say he isn’t that good. It’s widely accepted that he’s absolutely top class. It’s just interesting to see how negatively Lukaku is generally viewed in comparison and people are trying to give context as to the disparity.
 
I do find the chance creation stat of both players rather interesting. Kane is widely considered to be the more influential of the two outside the box, yet the stats above show that lukaku is ahead of his rival in that department by a significantly large margin (220 - 128 in favour of Lukaku) which pretty much blows the whole 'Kane is more creative than Lukaku' argument right out of the water.

Also, I agree that Lukaku improved his game over the course of last season. His crossing alone has come on leaps and bounds, not to mention his vastly improved touch in and around the box. He is still a relatively young footballer with a good attitude and a willingness to progress his all-around game. I think we will see an even better Lukaku next season.

Yeah, if you looked at their physiques in a vacuum you would think that Lukaku was the bruiser who constantly battled in the penalty area and held the ball up and Kane was the one who worked the channels out wide and just as often put balls into the box as he tried to get on the end of them. In reality, it's the opposite.

As a youngster Kane came up as a #10 or second striker, but he's long ago abandoned that role. He's out an out line leading #9 who is there to drag center halves around, battle and hold the ball up and ruthlessly hunt goals.
 
Hopefully he scores another 5 in his next 2 games. No doubt people on here would still criticise him.
 
Hopefully he scores another 5 in his next 2 games. No doubt people on here would still criticise him.

He's scored 3 penalties and a deflection he had no clue about. He's not going to be able to stat-pad against better opposition and will have to be better in the general play.

If Kane keeps this up and scores 10+ goals this world cup then I'll call him the best striker in the world.
 
I’d rather he score 10 with Lukaku scoring 11 :D
That would be fine as well! The only time I really want Kane to come out on top against Lukaku is when we face Belgium. After that, as long as it's not against us, I'd love to see Rom score bucket loads and win the golden boot if Kane doesn't.
 
Immense pressure?

When compared to the rest of his career, I think scoring as captain and the lead striker, to put your country through to the knockout stages of the world cup, the entire world watching is immense pressure.

Sure, much more pressure in the final against someone like Germany or Brazil, though. But compare it to scoring against West Brom or Brighton and it's immense pressure.
 
He's smashed the league
Showed consistency
Done well in UCL
Scored at Stoke away on a cold Monday night
Doing good at international level
Let's just admit he's a good player
 
… If Kane keeps this up and scores 10+ goals this world cup then I'll call him the best striker in the world.

Then the goal-posts will be shifted again by some folk, who'll declare that he has to score 10+ in a single CL campaign ...
 
@Red4Ever I agree Kane is the better player because Lukaku played at utter shite clubs before he joined United and Kane played and plays for Tottenham during that same period. So it’s an apples to apples comparison.

Lukaku scoring record at his previous shite clubs is not as good as Kanes record at his current shite club.

Wrong @Red4Ever
 
Then the goal-posts will be shifted again by some folk, who'll declare that he has to score 10+ in a single CL campaign ...

To be fair there is a lot of this going on, 'oh he is just a one season wonder', does it four seasons running, 'Yeah but he has to do it in the CL'. 9 goals in 10 starts with 2 assists, 'Yeah but he has to do it in a pressure situation vs a big CL team', did well in the RM games and Juventus games. 'Yeah but he has to do it in the WC', Captaining England, leading the golden boot chase with 5 goals. The hopes of a nation, but no pressure.

Im curious whats next? He's already done it on a cold night in Stoke so that's off the menu. Heaven forbid he actually has a shocker and miss a couple sitters like the rest of England's attacking players have with some truly woeful finishing, this forum would literally explode and go down. With people raging about how terrible Kane is, and rolling out the 'I told you so's'.

He's smashed the league
Showed consistency
Done well in UCL
Scored at Stoke away on a cold Monday night
Doing good at international level
Let's just admit he's a good player

The thing is he is not just doing good, which I could accept, he is breaking records all over the shop. Seems every time im reading an article where he is mentioned he has broken some record that has stood for a while. He really is Shearer 2.0.
 
He already scored 5 WC goals. Regardless of what happens tomorrow, he had a good World Cup.
 
Possibly the worst world cup top goal scorer, ever? The state of his goals :lol:
 
Possibly the worst world cup top goal scorer, ever? The state of his goals :lol:
In terms of the goals or the quality of the player?

He could easily go down as the best English striker ever.
 
Possibly the worst world cup top goal scorer, ever? The state of his goals :lol:

Don't care if he actually scores :D He's already dwarfing Rooney where it counts on the international stage.
 
In terms of the goals or the quality of the player?

He could easily go down as the best English striker ever.

As in he's done feck all and has x3 penalties and a ball kicked off him that he knew nothing about and counted as a goal.
 
Embarrassing comment, enjoy your sour grapes :lol:.

Sour? of what exactly? It's not like I'm competing for the golden boot :wenger:

If you call it embarrassing it must be, considering you have plenty of experience of those type of comments on Redcafe.
 
As in he's done feck all and has x3 penalties and a ball kicked off him that he knew nothing about and counted as a goal.

Should he do a step over before his penalty? Ahhhh you would be impressed then, certainly helped Messi and Ronaldo, go play Fifa bud.
 
Sour? of what exactly? It's not like I'm competing for the golden boot :wenger:

If you call it embarrassing it must be, considering you have plenty of experience of those type of comments on Redcafe.

What embarrassing comments have I had? Il be happy to review them, either pos them or go back in your box.
 
Embarrassing comment, enjoy your sour grapes :lol:.
Behave. Everyone bar Spurs and England fans can see that he's extremely fortunate to be on 6 goals now so it's not outlandish thing to say. Kane is a great striker and, overall, better than Lukaku but in general play, the quality of goals etc he must be the luckiest WC top goalscorer in my lifetime at least.
 
Wayne Rooney who is England's all time top scorer has just 1 world cup goal.

Kane won't care how nice the goals look. They all count.

Of course they do and I rate him. I'm not calling him shit, he'll just have possibly the worst golden boot award ever :lol:
 
Behave. Everyone bar Spurs and England fans can see that he's extremely fortunate to be on 6 goals now so it's not outlandish thing to say. Kane is a great striker and, overall, better than Lukaku but in general play, the quality of goals etc he must be the luckiest WC top goalscorer in my lifetime at least.

How is he extremely lucky? Are penalties lucky?
 
He’s quality. His all round play reminds me of Alan Shearer, he must be an absolute pain in the arse to defend again.
 
The history books will only show the number of goals scored.

No no no mate, it’s just the goal posts being shifted again, it’s like talking to enfants. Not one of them have mentioned Kane’s all round play today, they are a FIFA generation.
 
How is he extremely lucky? Are penalties lucky?
Put it this way, what's more lucky: presenting great movement and sprint to go through the channel and then perform a sublime little finish or having the chance to score from a penalty spot?
 
Put it this way, what's more lucky:presenting great movement and sprint to go through the channel and then perform a sublime little finish or having the chance to score from a penalty spot?

Both Ronaldo and Messi do that.... where are they again? This is an England team who most thought wouldn’t get out of the group.
 
People here are now actually sensitive even regarding Spurs players :lol:

It's the luckiest set of goals you'll ever see, scoring them during one full season would be called lucky, let alone during World Cup. I cannot believe people actually disagree with comments like these. :lol: