Harry Kane MBE | Performances

RobinLFC said:
Great stats. I don’t see the only important one, goals scored.

You’re either wumming or just plain stupid.
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I've given you the goals scored one. 102 v 108.

No one, least not me, thinks Lukaku is a better goalscorer than Kane. The issue I had is you ridiculously trying to downplay Lukaku when as a goalscorer in the PL he's next best and not 'nowhere near'.

Looking at your comments about Lukaku's general play it's clear to me you've not seen him much this season. I've watched every single game he's been involved in and can safely assure you he's developed.
 
Cassidy said:
Probably because its irrelevant to the point I made. If you really want to go there though.

Lewandowski says hello Pep will play with the players he has if he feels they are good enough, he isn't that rigid.
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Why is Lewandowski saying "Hello Pep"?
 
Don _ Conte said:
Do you struggle with your reading? Cascarino has giving you and example of who and I'v also told you that multiple people have if you want to read back through. Yet you have chosen to ignore that.

The point is Kane is a far superior striker to Lukaku.
That is the start and the end of the point.
Its very much in existence.
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If this is an intended slight on Lukaku, it's not a particularly clever one. Kane is superior to the vast majority of strikers the world over.
 
Don _ Conte said:
Do you struggle with your reading? Cascarino has giving you and example of who and I'v also told you that multiple people have if you want to read back through. Yet you have chosen to ignore that.

The point is Kane is a far superior striker to Lukaku.
That is the start and the end of the point.
Its very much in existence.
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Why don't you take up your very boring point with @MUFC OK in that case?
 
Cassidy said:
So because your point has been disproven you resort to picking at grammar :lol:
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I'm not picking, that's what you put? I didn't see the relevance of Lewandowski greeting Pep Guardiola that's all.

You've not disproven anything. Lukaku's goal scoring record is exceptional. Kane's is better. They are not a million miles away though. Dont see where you are going with this?
 
TheReligion said:
I'm not picking, that's what you put? I didn't see the relevance of Lewandowski greeting Pep Guardiola that's all.

You've not disproven anything. Lukaku's goal scoring record is exceptional. Kane's is better. They are not a million miles away though. Dont see where you are going with this?
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Obviously that wasn't the point I was referring to. You asked if Pep plays with a no 9 I mentioned Lewandowski.

Anyway Lukaku scoring record is good, nobody disputed that, but it is not "pretty much equal" as you stated.

Below is what I posted and that was it, you then decided to call me a moron... :rolleyes: and then decided to argue the fact that Aguero isn't a no 9 :wenger:

Cassidy said:
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Its 108 in 153 games for Kane and 102 in 220 games for Lukaku

Its no where near equal, that would be like me saying Lukaku has a better record than Van Nistelrooy because Ruud has 95 goals and Lukaku 102
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TheReligion said:
I've given you the goals scored one. 102 v 108.

No one, least not me, thinks Lukaku is a better goalscorer than Kane. The issue I had is you ridiculously trying to downplay Lukaku when as a goalscorer in the PL he's next best and not 'nowhere near'.

Looking at your comments about Lukaku's general play it's clear to me you've not seen him much this season. I've watched every single game he's been involved in and can safely assure you he's developed.
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Depends on what you value. Lukaku has managed to put the ball in the EPL net 108 times, fair play. But if you are comparing how close they are as goal scorers, the rate of scoring is incredibly important here. A goalscorer is judged on how many, how often. Emile Heskey has 144 EPL goals to his name. Is Emile near to Kane and Lukaku, as he has hit the back of the net more times than them? Kane's rate of scoring in the EPL is 108/150 = 0.72 (similar to RVN) and Lukaku is 101/220 = 0.45 similar to Yakubu's.
 
TheReligion said:
I've given you the goals scored one. 102 v 108.

No one, least not me, thinks Lukaku is a better goalscorer than Kane. The issue I had is you ridiculously trying to downplay Lukaku when as a goalscorer in the PL he's next best and not 'nowhere near'.

Looking at your comments about Lukaku's general play it's clear to me you've not seen him much this season. I've watched every single game he's been involved in and can safely assure you he's developed.
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Don't bother, that bloke was spouting shit in match thread yesterday saying how Lukaku was shite for 85' mins only to score twice. He was voted official MOTM too, some people are too blinkered to see the improvements in his game since he's been here. It's rather pathetic.

Coming to the comparison, Kane is a superior striker and a goalscorer. His record speaks for itself. But that doesn't mean Lukaku is nowhere near Kane, his numbers are quite good himself.
 
Kush said:
Don't bother, that bloke was spouting shit in match thread yesterday saying how Lukaku was shite for 85' mins only to score twice. He was voted official MOTM too, some people are too blinkered to see the improvements in his game since he's been here. It's rather pathetic.

Coming to the comparison, Kane is a superior striker and a goalscorer. His record speaks for itself. But that doesn't mean Lukaku is nowhere near Kane, his numbers are quite good himself.
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Agreed. @RobinLFC has had a shocker.
 
Stacks said:
Depends on what you value. Lukaku has managed to put the ball in the EPL net 108 times, fair play. But if you are comparing how close they are as goal scorers, the rate of scoring is incredibly important here. A goalscorer is judged on how many, how often. Emile Heskey has 144 EPL goals to his name. Is Emile near to Kane and Lukaku, as he has hit the back of the net more times than them? Kane's rate of scoring in the EPL is 108/150 = 0.72 (similar to RVN) and Lukaku is 101/220 = 0.45 similar to Yakubu's.
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I didn't think it needed breaking down to goals per game, its pretty obvious when you just add the games played you would think...
 
Stacks said:
Depends on what you value. Lukaku has managed to put the ball in the EPL net 108 times, fair play. But if you are comparing how close they are as goal scorers, the rate of scoring is incredibly important here. A goalscorer is judged on how many, how often. Emile Heskey has 144 EPL goals to his name. Is Emile near to Kane and Lukaku, as he has hit the back of the net more times than them? Kane's rate of scoring in the EPL is 108/150 = 0.72 (similar to RVN) and Lukaku is 101/220 = 0.45 similar to Yakubu's.
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I'll have that, and I don't dispute Kane is the better, but I think Lukaku is seriously downplayed given what he's achieved consistently whilst at West Brom and Everton.

You could argue that Kane has had far better service.
 
Why are we talking about Lukaku in this thread?

Kane played excellently yesterday based on his output. First England brace scorer in a World Cup since Lineker!
 
Fridge chutney said:
Why are we talking about Lukaku in this thread?

Kane played excellently yesterday based on his output. First England brace scorer in a World Cup since Lineker!
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Is that right? What a waste of talent the English national squad is when you think of the talent that inglad has had since Lineker.
 
InLevyITrust said:
Is that right? What a waste of talent the English national squad is when you think of the talent that inglad has had since Lineker.
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Rooney especially a big world cup let down.
 
I rate both Kane and Lukaku above Lewandowski at this point. The Pole is showing himself to be little more than the flat track bully striker of this generation IMO.
 
I'm amazed that the Kane-Lukaku debate continues to rage on, really. Haven't been reading this thread in particularly great detail, but from what I've seen the people putting forward the case for Lukaku have, at best, only been able to come up with vague, meaningless clichés or half-hearted conjecture. But I guess that's their only alternative to saying, 'Well, I'm basically arguing that Lukaku is better because he plays for my team, so therefore I feel I have to say that.'

I actually like and rate Lukaku, but let's be real here. For how long does Kane have to keep outperforming him before certain people finally admit the concrete reality in front of them instead of giving Lukaku the benefit of the doubt because of what they think he might be capable of, could do in different circumstances, his 'explosiveness' etc.?

Lukaku is a very, very good striker who would start for majority of teams in the world, and at worst is a good squad player for any of them. But Kane has a legitimate shout at being the best 9 in the business right now. Since he became a first teamer in 2014-15 he's comfortably had the upper hand over Lukaku. Far more consistent.
 
InLevyITrust said:
Is that right? What a waste of talent the English national squad is when you think of the talent that inglad has had since Lineker.
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So true. We misused so many of our great players. Glad Kane is being played in position! Long may it continue.
 
Stacks said:
Depends on what you value. Lukaku has managed to put the ball in the EPL net 108 times, fair play. But if you are comparing how close they are as goal scorers, the rate of scoring is incredibly important here. A goalscorer is judged on how many, how often. Emile Heskey has 144 EPL goals to his name. Is Emile near to Kane and Lukaku, as he has hit the back of the net more times than them? Kane's rate of scoring in the EPL is 108/150 = 0.72 (similar to RVN) and Lukaku is 101/220 = 0.45 similar to Yakubu's.
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Worth mentioning that Kane has 14 goals coming from penalties in Premier League, whilst Lukaku has only 6.
 
This isn't the place for such detailed Lukaku vs Kane discussions guys.
 
InLevyITrust said:
The whole Lampard/Gerrard thing was a joke of a “problem” to make up.
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Yeah agreed, and it meant that Scholes was shunted out to the left and he then retired... he was our best midfielder at the time! As an England supporter you just shake your head.

I've been encouraged by what I've seen from Southgate so far. I think he was right to make Harry Kane captain. Hopefully Rashford learns a thing or two from him.
 
Fridge chutney said:
Yeah agreed, and it meant that Scholes was shunted out to the left and he then retired... he was our best midfielder at the time! As an England supporter you just shake your head.

I've been encouraged by what I've seen from Southgate so far. I think he was right to make Harry Kane captain. Hopefully Rashford learns a thing or two from him.
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I think he should move walker to WB though. He's wasted in his current role.
 
Cassidy said:
Rooney especially a big world cup let down.
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Yeah he's the joint 4th all-time top scorer in the Euros (Platini, Ronaldo and Shearer the top 3) but he only has 1 world cup goal in 3 tournaments :eek:
 
Dont understand how people can be comparing Lukaku to Kane. Yes, both are number 9's, but one is world class and one is a good player
 
Random Task said:
I suggested this very thing in the matchday thread last night and got lambasted for it.
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InLevyITrust said:
He’s not just a waste there he’s a fecking liability, I’d play the RWB between Trippier and Walker depending on opposition.
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I think he's using Walker there as Harry Mag lacks pace but he's clearly a better full back. The reason he gave the penalty away was because he was out of position and was facing the wrong way. It'll cost us.
 
Fridge chutney said:
Yeah agreed, and it meant that Scholes was shunted out to the left and he then retired... he was our best midfielder at the time! As an England supporter you just shake your head.

I've been encouraged by what I've seen from Southgate so far. I think he was right to make Harry Kane captain. Hopefully Rashford learns a thing or two from him.
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Scholes has to take some responsibility too though. I don't think he made himself "irreplaceable" as an England player. You look at Xavi and Iniesta and they stimulated Spain into dropping using wingers altogether as they performed so well that it negated having top wingers like Joaquin and Vicente.
 
Stacks said:
Scholes has to take some responsibility too though. I don't think he made himself "irreplaceable" as an England player. You look at Xavi and Iniesta and they stimulated Spain into dropping using wingers altogether as they performed so well that it negated having top wingers like Joaquin and Vicente.
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I agree with that. He should take some responsibility. But management must also.

You look to how the best players respond to treatment worthy of their talent, and Kane is a great example. Played in position as captain and his young England career so far is heading in the right direction. Anyway I shouldn't get ahead of myself. England and Kane can yet disappoint.
 
@Don _ Conte opinion is worthless when it comes to Lukaku, he/she is salty about Lukaku not coming to Chelsea and is still adamant that Morata is better.

Anyone that thinks Morata is better than Lukaku and questions someone that says Lukaku is better than Kane is a hypocrite.

Its obvious that Morata is a 3rd tier striker, Lukaku is a 2nd tier striker and Kane is a 1st tier striker.
 
breakout67 said:
@Don _ Conte opinion is worthless when it comes to Lukaku, he/she is salty about Lukaku not coming to Chelsea and is still adamant that Morata is better.

Anyone that thinks Morata is better than Lukaku and questions someone that says Lukaku is better than Kane is a hypocrite.

Its obvious that Morata is a 3rd tier striker, Lukaku is a 2nd tier striker and Kane is a 1st tier striker.
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Ahh yeah it all makes sense now. I remember the nonsense they spouted. They wanted Lukaku but when he picked United and Chelsea got the booby prize he developed a massive agenda.
 
TheReligion said:
I think he's using Walker there as Harry Mag lacks pace but he's clearly a better full back. The reason he gave the penalty away was because he was out of position and was facing the wrong way. It'll cost us.
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Yeah but that’s CB preschool, never face your own goal when a ball is coming in and always see the ball, they go hand in hand. Dier is a hell of a CB in a back 3 and should be starting over Walker, actually any decent CB should be starting over him there, far to many brain farts.
 
Wouldnt mind swapping Pogba for Kane. Then again even with Kane in our team with the supply of Valencia and Young , combined with the Mourinho tactics, he probably wouldnt score so many
 
red4ever 79 said:
Dont understand how people can be comparing Lukaku to Kane. Yes, both are number 9's, but one is world class and one is a good player
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red4ever 79 said:
Wouldnt mind swapping Pogba for Kane. Then again even with Kane in our team with the supply of Valencia and Young , combined with the Mourinho tactics, he probably wouldnt score so many
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Oppo fan in disguise

@EyeInTheSky one for you
 
red4ever 79 said:
Wouldnt mind swapping Pogba for Kane. Then again even with Kane in our team with the supply of Valencia and Young , combined with the Mourinho tactics, he probably wouldnt score so many
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Pogba, Martial and a few quid might make Levy pick up the phone, if just to troll Woody.
 
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