Harry Kane MBE | Performances

There's something not at all right about him since his injury.

I know it's ridiculous to say after he's just scored the winning two goals of a WC game but at his best, he is everywhere. He is involved in all of our play, links well, holds up the ball, chases the opposition and has maybe 5-6 shots a game. Since he's come back from that injury in April, he's been averaging I think 1-3 per match and his distance covered per match is objectively much less (I can't remember the exact stat but it dropped quite a bit from how he was before the injury).

Fair play to him that he's somehow still scoring at pretty much the same rate but I wonder what it is. Whether it's psychological, whether he's still not fully 100% after it.

Whatever it is, I hope he comes back the usual Kane at the beginning of the season and that in the meantime, he keeps the goals flowing for England.
 
breakout67 said:
My comment had nothing to do with Lukaku. When you have people talking about his amazing passing vision (did he claim that from Eriksen as well?) and he has no weaknesses (when it's obvious the ball over the top or behind the full back isn't an option due to him being slow as molasses). Someone even said he could play as a no.10 if he wanted. Some people are really up his arse.



I prefer Aguero, who scores at the same rate but assists at a far higher rate but ok.
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I agree with all this. Him as a number 10 would be a big joke as he would just shoot anytime he was within 40 meters of goal. I still prefer him over Kun though.
 
Kane as a 10 would not be a joke at all, it is actually often where he would play for us when he first broke through.

He plays a certain way for us now because he scores a lot of goals and ultimately that is the currency of the game. We gear up the team so that our best goalscorer scores goals. When he wasn't scoring at quite this rate, he was involved much more a bit further back.

I know the Internet and the anonymity it provides makes people more prone to posting hyperbolic, black and white statements, whether it's about football, politics or the merits of Donald glover but I have never understood why people are so keen to post definitive statements about something so debatable and unclear.

How many people here would have said that Kane would be one of the best strikers in the world when he was struggling away on loan in the championship? Or that Giggs would end up playing until he was 40 as a cm? Or Greece would win the Euros? Or that Bale, apparently a one trick pony who had already reached his top level, would go on to have a stellar career at real, while Nani, the player he was so often compared unfavourably to on here, would fade into obscurity?

Pretty much nothing is definitive so why make such definitive statements?
 
Kane usually gets a lot of love on here but now that he's scored in the World Cup the thread is suddenly full of people slating him? :lol:
 
dbs235 said:
Kane usually gets a lot of love on here but now that he's scored in the World Cup the thread is suddenly full of people slating him? :lol:
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It's quite usual on here imo if a spurs player gets compared favourably to a man utd one.
Nothing to see really and most people on here are impartial enough to analyse without letting bias completely cloud their judgement!
 
TheReligion said:
Are the figures wrong?
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Lol they are pointless without games played.
breakout67 said:
Those 2 comments, as well as some Spurs posters that pop up whenever someone doesn't talk of him as the best striker ever. Someone also called him the best striker in the world as well.

Lewandowski, Higuain, Aubameyang and Aguero all have a shout of being better (Kane's is a baby in the CL, whereas these are CL veterans). Then you have the likes of Cavani, Immobile, Icardi and Suarez (he'd be ahead of Kane but has been on the decline) that can be in the conversation.

Of course there is Ronaldo who plays as a striker now and is on a different planet to Kane but that is obvious.
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I think this is a bit over the top, I certainly haven’t said he is the best in the world and can’t recall many other Spurs fans on here saying he is, but we do feel the need to defend him of course. A certain poster who I won’t name basically said that in the match we had against you he didn’t have a good game because a striker “is supposed to score”, now when he basically wins the opening match of the WC on his own by scoring 2 goals “he didn’t do enough”. He can’t win :lol:.
 
Cassidy said:
:lol:

Its 108 in 153 games for Kane and 102 in 220 games for Lukaku

Its no where near equal, that would be like me saying Lukaku has a better record than Van Nistelrooy because Ruud has 95 goals and Lukaku 102
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RobinLFC said:
You're right I should include all seasons going back to 1993 when they were born.

You're being obtuse for the sake of it and getting laughed at by your fellow United fans, says it all really.
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InLevyITrust said:
They are pointless without including games played.
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Don _ Conte said:
Wait are there actually people in here debating Lukaku is as good as Kane?
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No one has said Lukaku is better than Kane you bunch of morons. I was simply saying that @RobinLFC stating ''Lukaku's PL goalscoring record is no where near Kane's" is wrong. He's the next best thing to Kane in the PL so to say he's no where near is incorrect.

Not sure what's so difficult to comprehend about that in all fairness. As for trying to compare Morata to Lukaku as a goalscorer.. that's complete and utter nonsense.

Lukaku and Kane are the most prolific number 9s in the PL.
 
TheReligion said:
No one has said Lukaku is better than Kane you bunch of morons. I was simply saying that @RobinLFC stating ''Lukaku's PL goalscoring record is no where near Kane's" is wrong. He's the next best thing to Kane in the PL so to say he's no where near is incorrect.

Not sure what's so difficult to comprehend about that in all fairness. As for trying to compare Morata to Lukaku as a goalscorer.. that's complete and utter nonsense.

Lukaku and Kane are the most prolific number 9s in the PL.
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Who are you calling a moron, and where in my post did I say you said Lukaku was better?
You are just wrong as my post points out, their goalscoring records are not "pretty much equal" as you stated
 
TheReligion said:
No one has said Lukaku is better than Kane you bunch of morons. I was simply saying that @RobinLFC stating ''Lukaku's PL goalscoring record is no where near Kane's" is wrong. He's the next best thing to Kane in the PL so to say he's no where near is incorrect.

Not sure what's so difficult to comprehend about that in all fairness. As for trying to compare Morata to Lukaku as a goalscorer.. that's complete and utter nonsense.

Lukaku and Kane are the most prolific number 9s in the PL.
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You are wrong again, a certain Kun Aguero says hello
 
breakout67 said:
Those 2 comments, as well as some Spurs posters that pop up whenever someone doesn't talk of him as the best striker ever. Someone also called him the best striker in the world as well.

Lewandowski, Higuain, Aubameyang and Aguero all have a shout of being better (Kane's is a baby in the CL, whereas these are CL veterans). Then you have the likes of Cavani, Immobile, Icardi and Suarez (he'd be ahead of Kane but has been on the decline) that can be in the conversation.

Of course there is Ronaldo who plays as a striker now and is on a different planet to Kane but that is obvious.
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What has Aubemayang done that is better and where? Higuain too. Kane is much better than Higuain. Immobile scores less in Serie A
 
TheReligion said:
No one has said Lukaku is better than Kane you bunch of morons. I was simply saying that @RobinLFC stating ''Lukaku's PL goalscoring record is no where near Kane's" is wrong. He's the next best thing to Kane in the PL so to say he's no where near is incorrect.

Not sure what's so difficult to comprehend about that in all fairness. As for trying to compare Morata to Lukaku as a goalscorer.. that's complete and utter nonsense.

Lukaku and Kane are the most prolific number 9s in the PL.
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It's not wrong at all unless you're deliberately interpreting it the wrong way, but I see where you have troubles.
 
TheReligion said:
No one has said Lukaku is better than Kane you bunch of morons. I was simply saying that @RobinLFC stating ''Lukaku's PL goalscoring record is no where near Kane's" is wrong. He's the next best thing to Kane in the PL so to say he's no where near is incorrect.

Not sure what's so difficult to comprehend about that in all fairness. As for trying to compare Morata to Lukaku as a goalscorer.. that's complete and utter nonsense.

Lukaku and Kane are the most prolific number 9s in the PL.
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Like I said, there's goals per minutes this season is very similar.

My point was more that stats don't show the picture, despite Lukaku and Morata output being similar per the minutes they played, Lukaku was better this year.

In the same way you could pull whatever stats out of the sky but anyone with a footballing brain can see Kane is a far superior player.
 
Stacks said:
What has Aubemayang done that is better and where? Higuain too. Kane is much better than Higuain. Immobile scores less in Serie A
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Will be interesting to see him next season in the PL, i think its a good debate about who is better between him and Kane
 
Don _ Conte said:
Like I said, there's goals per minutes this season is very similar.

My point was more that stats don't show the picture, despite Lukaku and Morata output being similar per the minutes they played, Lukaku was better this year.

In the same way you could pull whatever stats out of the sky but anyone with a footballing brain can see Kane is a far superior player.
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Who has said Lukaku is better?
 
Kapardin said:
Was a Captain's performance yesterday, wouldn't you agree? Does seem to keep a level head.
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Not at all no, my thread bump looks daft given he scored 2 goals but he was shite last night and in a game where Alli, Lingard and Sterling all offered good movement Kane was anonymous. Now that can obviously happen but at least make your presence felt in other ways which watching from my sofa didn't appear to be the case at all
 
TheReligion said:
Who has said Lukaku is better?
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There are posts in here stating that, not from yourself but from others, you only have to read back through to see comments were people think he is as good as or better than Kane.


To answer your question though maybe somebody maybe nobody, the point I'm making stands either way.
 
TheReligion said:
No one has said Lukaku is better than Kane you bunch of morons. I was simply saying that @RobinLFC stating ''Lukaku's PL goalscoring record is no where near Kane's" is wrong. He's the next best thing to Kane in the PL so to say he's no where near is incorrect.

Not sure what's so difficult to comprehend about that in all fairness. As for trying to compare Morata to Lukaku as a goalscorer.. that's complete and utter nonsense.

Lukaku and Kane are the most prolific number 9s in the PL.
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Can't use that logic and forget Rooney :devil:
 
Don _ Conte said:
There are posts in here stating that, not from yourself but from others, you only have to read back through to see comments were people think he is as good as or better than Kane.


To answer your question though maybe somebody maybe nobody, the point I'm making stands either way.
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So what you're saying is your arguing points that don't even exist.
 
TheReligion said:
His not a classic 9 like Kane and Lukaku. He has played as a SS and often drops deep to influence play.
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He has mainly played for City as a lone striker, anyway thats up to you if you want to say he is not a 9 to suit your argument.
 
TheReligion said:
What about Rooney . Is he a number 9?
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Considering he mainly played for United supporting the main striker and not as the main striker then no. The same cannot be said of Agureo
 
TheReligion said:
So what you're saying is your arguing points that don't even exist.
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Do you struggle with your reading? Cascarino has giving you and example of who and I'v also told you that multiple people have if you want to read back through. Yet you have chosen to ignore that.

The point is Kane is a far superior striker to Lukaku.
That is the start and the end of the point.
Its very much in existence.
 
TheReligion said:
That didn't answer the question.
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Cassidy said:
He has mainly played for City as a lone striker, anyway thats up to you if you want to say he is not a 9 to suit your argument.
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Probably because its irrelevant to the point I made. If you really want to go there though.

Lewandowski says hello, Pep will play with the players he has if he feels they are good enough, he isn't that rigid.
 
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