Even for the Daily Star, this is a monumentally shit headline.
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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I bet you are wrong, I hope it's not your usual thing to be wrong about everything.
It's a charity shield equivalent, way less pressure than league game.
Same here.
Even for the Daily Star, this is a monumentally shit headline.
An Abundance of Additional Alliteration.
Even for the Daily Star, this is a monumentally shit headline.
The "New Number No"?
"£100m Kane is a big Bay buy"
Kane hasn't always been a great playmaker, he has only 2 or 3 seasons when that part of his game looked really good. Rooney's assist numbers are better than Kane's, this includes his teenage years and 4 seasons when he was in a rapid decline.
It's so typical for us that we use one of the rare moments the league receives world wide attention like this
Don't know about that. Looks like it was done by the same poeple that do 442oons.
Pretty sure they aren't German.
Frederbahce is just as bad.
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I'd bet good money that this was created by English people for English people.
https://442oons.fandom.com/wiki/Hurri-Kane
Good to see that famous English wit at work.
Rooney started off from a higher-level than Kane, but also was developed (to the extent that this wasn't just instinctive) to act as a creative fulcrum from early on his career . Kane certainly hasn't been the 'same player' right from the 'off', although he was known for his footballing awareness as a youngster. I'm basing this on sustained peak period: Kane, through sheer practice as well as building up playing relationships with the likes of Son in particular (and more so since Eriksen left), has become a complete player in terms of ability to score and orchestrate the play, able to juggle them both for a longer-period as well as to go one level above Rooney in terms of finding 'the pass before the pass' consistently. I know that's controversial, its certainly not a majority opinion, but it's not a judgement confined to me or even to people who haven't played the game professionally or something. You also have to take into account and handicap for the sides in which they've played, although obviously those judgements are also fairly subjective.
I'm not denying Rooney was a great player - I'm just saying that Kane has developed himself in a way which Rooney, even with his 'floor' and the side in which he played his best football being of a higher level than Spur, didn't fully (whether through diet, analysis and developing in-game problem-solving under pressure, or going one step further in training; again, I'm not saying Rooney wasn't a student of the game either). When Rooney was mooted as a natural to move back into midfield and orchestrate games in his later career, I could see the reasoning but didn't think he'd be quite the deeper playmaker people championing this claimed. He obviously did play games in midfield, and did OK, sometimes well, but through a combination of diet/conditioning and whatever else, we didn't see the proto-De Bruyne masterclass (or Carrickesque string-pulling from deep) some people expected. Kane I think could play this kind of role at 34-5 + alongside energetic players, and at the highest level....
It’s not that badEven for the Daily Star, this is a monumentally shit headline.
I am pretty sure of the opposite. Let's not pretend that Hojlund is the same class as Kane and let's not pretend a coach doesn't want a player of Kane's calibre, especially a coach in a team with our striker options. City is probably the only team in the PL who would pass on Kane.
But for Levy to sell him to us, a team in the Premier League, a 'rival', he would have wanted some insane amount which we correctly chose not to pay but to say that ETH prefers an unproven 20 year old over Kane is a huge stretch.
That doesn't mean I'm unhappy we got Hojlund or that Kane went to Bayern, we had too many holes fill for us to splash the cash on Kane and ignore our other problems but that doesn't change the fact that Kane is absolute quality and a safe card that would have brought something really special to us.
Christ
I don't think Kane should have played at all. It seems weird that he had only met the players several hours before his first game.
I'd agree with that if Bayern had a more decent choice as their #9. They paid a record fee for him for a reason.
I think Kane is easily a better playmaker than Rooney. His passing is much better(at every kind of pass bar maybe air long balls), so is his link up play.
Kane had a normal pre season with Spurs, he's fully fit. Why shouldn't he play in a glorified friendly like the super cup?
Did you start watching football in 2015 because no statement epitomizes that you never saw Rooney play in his prime than this ridiculous statement. Rooney was an absolute force, the disrespect is real.
I hope their goal was to go for maximum cringe.
That is utterly insane
He really isn't. It feels like people take a couple of seasons when Kane's playmaking was exceptional and apply them to his whole career.
And @Baxquux there's zero chance Kane will play the role United fans thought Rooney could've done late in his career. He'll remain a striker till he retires.
Yeah I reckon Kane’s passing is better too, and it’s underrated. But Rooney could really influence the tempo of a game in the way Kane can’t. He was the heartbeat of the team at times, his energy and personality could transform the mood of the team. Kane needs the play to move around him so he can be the fulcrum, but Rooney could go both ways.
Kane and Rooney are different styles of players and, at their peak, were/are both world class. No point really trying to compare them further.
Kane’s conference today suggests to me that he’s still after Shearer’s record. Expect him back in England in 2025. Sadly, unless it’s a very good deal, I think it’s probably best avoided for us by then.
Kane’s conference today suggests to me that he’s still after Shearer’s record. Expect him back in England in 2025. Sadly, unless it’s a very good deal, I think it’s probably best avoided for us by then.
Some of us have been watching football since the mid 90s and have seen hundreds of hours of Rooney play as well as being exposed to the various debates across time about his potential, his performances, his impact on the team, his best position and so on, alongside with the various tabloid stories about his lifestyle. That doesn't automatically make people experts, and produces all kinds of diverging opinions but it does at least give a base sense of how good he was, but also what some of his flaws were along with his unrealized potential . There's a good case, if not an unequivocal one, that Kane at his peak is just a more creative player in terms of linking things together in the final third as well as regularly starting moves off.
I'm not saying he will (returning to PL for the Shearer record might get in the way of this, for a start); I'm saying in principle he's arguably better suited to this than Rooney ended up being once he got into his 30s. The arguments were that Rooney would essentially go from Scholes CF/Second ST of 95 (but at higher level) to late-career Scholes (sitting deep and dictating play, as well as moving forward when needs be, rather than the more dynamic peak-period Scholes CM role which Rooney's decreasing mobility would stop him from potentially. There was a bit of that towards the end of his career with Everton and, mainly Derby, but we didn't really see it. Prior to then, late in his United career we saw something closer to Rooney trying to play the 'peak' Scholes role, albeit in slightly different tactical set-up, but I don't think he played it consistently, even in terms of controlling tempo and short-passing, breaking the press or finding overlapping full-backs and all the rest. Some of that was just down to playing in weaker sides by that point, of course...
It's sad how this situation unfolded. By all accounts, he really wanted to join United. How much did Bayern end up paying?
Nonsense
Must have been hurting watching him in a Bayern shirt for the Spurs fans yesterday. I know i did when i saw Ronaldo in a Madrid shirt for the first time and eventually got over it
Doesn't exactly look like he's England's brightest in that clip.
It was made by an English person for the English market. So I gues it rather says something about England.
I judge a player in big moments not only stats in beating down on lower opposition. Rooney has so many memorable moments in the champions league and other big games for us. Rooney was a genuine generational talent who perhaps who did not reach those gigantic expectations. However even if he was one step below in fulfilling his potential, he was an incredible player, an all time United legend and a step above Harry Kane in talent alone.
Im sure the ref knows english
The problem is Kane can’t speak English either.
I'm sure he does, but I'm not so sure an upset Kimmich decided not to talk to the German ref in German.
But who knows, for all we know Kane just did that British thing, where he says "nein" and then mind drifts away congratulating himself on his sophisticated humor. His facial expression certainly looked like it.
Wait a minute, hold the phone.....
Kane isn't fluent in German after less than 24 hours in the country?
Kane doesn't strike me as someone you'd expect to (ever) speak German fluently.
They sold like 2 million Kane shirts in one day.
Because of his lisp?
I guess thankfully he's playing football and not lecturing in German though so imagine it should be OK.
Do you have a problem with people who have a lisp?
My point was that many foreigners seem to struggle with learning to speak German fluently. Since Kane will be able to get by speaking English and only signed for a few years I don't expect him to have much drive to hone his language skills and if he starts scoring goals I don't expect anyone from the club to try and force too many lessons on him either.