Kane will be fine. He’ll get Bundesliga’s golden boot and they will win the league. I can’t see them winning the CL though.
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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I dont think it was his fault specifically. Imho thats just how Bayern are right now, still work in progress under a new manager. Far from a finished product.
Tuchel is overrated so Bayern might need to upgrade on him to improve.
Lads it's Kane
They have already lost before he came on. He hasnt even had one training with them. You guys are weird
He would never reach that target.
He'll never win a trophy.
It would be amazing comedy if Bayern’s run of bundesliga titles ends in his first year at the club. Actually hoping it happens, very spursy.
And we buy him for cheap next summer! It's a cunning plan, isn't it?
Kane is not even the greatest English striker of the last 20 years, that honour belongs to Rooney. Also despite being a complete knob, prime Alan Shearer was an absolute force and better than Kane.
They were already 2-0 down when he came on and he's barely had a day of training with the team. He's used to Song pinging balls in for him so he'll need time to adjust.
But at the same times it's also really fecking funny
But at the same times it's also really fecking funny
You can take the man out of Tottenham but you can't take the Tottenham out of the man.
To be honest it’s hard not to laugh. All that talk of how he’d get a medal within hours of arriving and it went completely tits up
Nice that the Bayern players spared no expense to make him feel right at home. Winning a medal would have only made him feel more distant.
Nice that the Bayern players spared no expense to make him feel right at home. Winning a medal would have only made him feel more distant.
They were already 2-0 down when he came on and he's barely had a day of training with the team. He's used to Song pinging balls in for him so he'll need time to adjust.
But at the same times it's also really fecking funny
What will be really funny is if Spurs win a cup this year and Bayern wins nothing! It was him all along!
Kane never wins a trophy > Bayern always wins trophies
It would be hilarious if the eternal big game bottler fails to win anything this season at Bayern of all places. With Tuchel in charge its a real possibility.
Would be lovely if they lost their first dfb pokal game as well.
Rooney had 2 seasons in his whole career with more than 30 goals across all comps. You can make a credible case that he was the better player, but as a striker, no chance he’s better than Kane, not even in this board would you get such a consensus.
Bayern payed 20m€ on that kid at 17yo. It's a price tag that creates expectations to be able to deal with such games.
If he wanted us that badly there was only one way that was happening — he’d have had to kick up a massive fuss throughout the summer like Antony did at Ajax
I'd strongly disagree. It's 2023 not 2003 mate. And he's only 18 yo. Leipzig are certainly not any pushoever either. Bayern have been having a hard time dealing with them in the recent years if I'm not wrong. It's just dumb from Tuchel imo.
They were also pretty much the only seasons where he was played as an outright striker. Not saying he was or wasn't better than Kane but it's closer than you suggest.
You can make all kinds of excuses or what if scenarios but the fact remains that Rooney had 2 such seasons and were washed by the time he was 28, whereas Kane has maintained his scoring rate for the last, what, 8 years? At his absolute peak I’d rather have Rooney in the team because he had other exceptional qualities but as a pure goalscorer I maintain that you would be hard pressed to get the majority of Utd fans to put Rooney ahead of Kane, never mind the football community at large.
He should have probably retired with 34 at Spurs as Sir Harold the Trophyless.
On a more serious note I have respect for him that he took on the challenge. Everyone‘s eyes are on him and the bashing has already started.
On a more serious note I have respect for him that he took on the challenge. Everyone‘s eyes are on him and the bashing has already started.
Yesterday Tel was the only fit No 9 who had trained with the team, he has spent a year at the club and they hope for him to fulfill that role as first choice for years to come. Obviously they don't expect him to carry them trough the season yet, otherwise they wouldn't have signed Kane, but they trust him to play when they need him.
It's 2023, not 2003, players don't start being first choice at 25yo mate
But most of them don't be first choice at a top club at 18 yo either. Unless they're Messi, Ronaldo Rooney or Mbappe. Obvioulsy the kid is not of that bracket.Yesterday Tel was the only fit No 9 who had trained with the team, he has spent a year at the club and they hope for him to fulfill that role as first choice for years to come. Obviously they don't expect him to carry them trough the season yet, otherwise they wouldn't have signed Kane, but they trust him to play when they need him.
It's 2023, not 2003, players don't start being first choice at 25yo mate
The thing about any final is the pressure and the intensity. It's just dumb to think an average 18 yo kid being able to deal with that. Top strikers are top because they rarely would miss when it really counts. That kid would have scored 9 out of 10 with the huge chance from Gnarby in training. Some are born to be cool and cold in that moment. Most need time to mature.
Anyway let's agree to disagree then. It's just dumb to use a €20m price tag of a 17 yo kid to beat him with in a final in 2023. €20m these days hardly get you a championship level striker.
Yes, the price tag isn't important itself. What matters is that he was bought to be build up as Lewandowski's successor. That didn't work out due to his transfer to Barca, but anyway that's the role he should fulfill.
And anyway I didn't mean to beat Tel with it, I just intended to defend Tuchel a bit as I don't think it was wrong to field Tel. That Bayern team should beat that Leipzig team any day and it's just a lame excuse to say it is because of their No 9. They have more problems than just that.
Which could well be how the season at least starts... Kane papering over the cracks until it truly matters. If Bayern use that to really get into a flow they will be fine, but if they keep on playing like that and just add Kane it will be interesting.
Bayern won one, lost one and drew one in their three last matches against Leipzig. So not any day. And it's not any normal match but a final. The thing is he had Kane at his disposal. A much more quality and experienced option. Again let's agree to disagree mate.
It's not high pressure finals, its a season opener which is as good as friendly, or better than friendly and comfortably lower than league game.
No pressure game as it gets.
Arguably Kane's a better playmaker than Rooney proved to be across his career, in addition to by almost every metric being a better 'pure' striker. Rooney in his early years was more obviously dynamic and capable of playing as a more traditional wide forward compared to Kane (who pops up on the wings, but isn't consistently taking on full-backs in the same way). However, when you consider how often Kane would find himself starting moves off or linking things halfway through the pitch and releasing wingers, there isn't much between peak Rooney and Kane in terms of all-round play.
If playing in those SAF sides for the equivalent 9 years to those which he spent in the Tottenham 1st team and alternating between 9 and a 10, Kane wouldn't have just matched Rooney's united numbers in much fewer games, he'd be pushing 300. If he was largely played as a 'pure' 9, he'd already have gone beyond Shearer's PL record. Arguably he's the closest to a Rooney/Ruud hybrid you'll get, with the possible exception of Van Persie in SAF's final season. It's sad that with Levy's stubbornness and our ownership-induced relative constraints, we'll never see him (at least at his peak) playing for United.
This is an insane post. Peak Rooney could literally play every portion across the front line including as a 10.
It’s hard to argue Kane is better based on goal scoring numbers then argue actual assist numbers in your next post. As of now Rooney has almost double the league assists of Kane while only being 5 ahead of him in league goals
It's not insane. I said Rooney was a better wide forward. That doesn't mean he was a better playmaker across his whole career, taking into account their positions on the pitch, length of career etc. I'm old enough to have clearly seen all of Rooney's career in action, peaks and troughs, and to remember how even in the halcyon days of mid-late 2000s side, there were periods when he didn't produce as much as he seemed capable of doing in terms of numbers or assists, even as he was obviously a part of the 'machine' in terms of link-up play. Kane is more of a productivity machine, bearing in mind the sides he's played. You can disagree, but it's not an opinion outside of the bounds of reason...
Rooney was better than Kane. No doubt about it.
It's not a big final but still one. Not some pre season cup in Asia. And I bet you didn't watch the match. Good match actually, very high intensity and both sides really wanted to win.
Good to see the world renowned German sense of humour and fun coming though.