Yeah Fergie wanted Benzema badly
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
- Thread starter LawCharltonBest
- Start date
Yeah Fergie wanted Benzema badly
Exactly, everything is an anti climax when you lose a player of that quality, especially when it’s those names that come in…
It's not as crazy as we had to pay around 80m a year in loan, interests and dividends for those leechers during that period. Basically a Ronaldo a year so you might get the idea.
Why not wait a year and then choose where he wants to go.
Unless of course, he shows absolutely no ambition again and actually extends.
I could see that, but losing him on a free is insane. Selling him and getting two cracking signings plus some prospects, wouldn’t be so looked down upon
They won't though, just like we didn't when we sold Ronaldo. Every team they approach will want at least £10m more and every top player in Europe is already valued at over £100m so they're going to lose a great player and end up with some shite.
It's more palatable from the fans perspective if Levy spends the season trying to keep him then he moves to Bayern on a free. Out of sight, out of mind and Spurs carry on.
Post-playing role 
Levy is getting desperate.
Levy is getting desperate.
They'll offer him the sporting directors job if he agrees to stay, he's got to Mbappe levels of control at Spurs now.Post-playing role
Levy is getting desperate.
I cannot read the particular BILD article as it is behind a paywall - but they talk of 100m Euros not Pounds.
I guess at the end it will be somewhat like 100 m Euros and some add-ons that can get to 100m Pounds.
It’s because of the Berbatov deal Levy HATES us, he went on strike and if I remember correctly Berbatov then refused to go to City once Sir Alex and co effectively kidnapped Berbatov
It's not that crazy to lose him on a free. Especially when the rumoured offers top out at around 80 mil Euros.
Kane's goals alone just about give the club that much money with sponsorship, branding, and prize money.
What would be truly crazy is taking any random offer just so he doesn't walk "for free".
It will not be 80 million Euros at the end. It just is normal that you will not start with the most you can give and that it will be the third or fourth offer they (hopefully) will agree on.
“Kane could earn as much as £400,000-a-week if he chooses to sign a new contract at Spurs rather than eye a departure”
Post-playing career
He still has around 5 years left in Europe as player and afterwards may still play a couple of years in US/SA. Why should he already bother about post-playing career?
He still has around 5 years left in Europe as player and afterwards may still play a couple of years in US/SA. Why should he already bother about post-playing career?
Kane can cash in on a new Spurs contract and not have to deal with the pressure of a trophy hunt for the rest of his career.
Kane can go to Bayern and risk failing to live up to their extraordinarily high expectations.
Kane can go to United -- Levy would take 100m and I suspect we'd offer it if it goes to August -- and cash in on a better contract that Spurs can offer him and possibly help propel United for a proper trophy hunt.
Kane can go to Bayern and risk failing to live up to their extraordinarily high expectations.
Kane can go to United -- Levy would take 100m and I suspect we'd offer it if it goes to August -- and cash in on a better contract that Spurs can offer him and possibly help propel United for a proper trophy hunt.
Yeah I'm aware that 80 wouldn't be the final price, but I also don't think Bayern are going to fork up what it would take either. Especially if they believe they can get him on a free next year. We've seen them do this with numerous German clubs through the years.
The thing is that I think Kane would join another English club on a free rather than uproot his family and head to Munich. I don't think Bayern fully realize this as they're in the courtship process where things are rosy.
Personally as a Spurs supporter I'd actually happily sell Kane abroad for 100+ I just don't think PSG who would pay it convince him and I'm not sure Real Madrid or Bayern will fork up that type of cash.
He'd win the Bundesliga without breaking a sweat.
Hate to break it to you but the only way he's joining another PL club is on a free. Levy and the club will absolutely under no circumstances sell him to another PL team.
Bayern is badly in need of a good no. 9. Kane just fully matches the ideal of striker Bayern needs most. There is not really a good alternative apart from Osimhen who is younger but will get even more expensive. Muani just is a totally different type of striker - not a no. 9 in a ball possession team. They do not fall from trees in the quality Bayern needs them - if we would and could play differently - with less ball possession - it would be different. But as a top dog in the Bundesliga that does not work. Bayern has that money in the bank - they are just reluctant to overspend. And I
Bayern might have stalled in that position when they already were well equipped in the position and the other team was too greedy - like Leipzig was last year with Laimer - but it is different when you only have a very injury prone ECMC whose performances aren't relieable.
It takes 2 hours to fly from London to Munich with a private plane. There is very good international schools with English as main subject. It is easy to get out of the City to the lake or the mountains. His wife likes to go skiing. And even if you should try to learn as much German as you can - you get around very well with just English in Munich.
The most random Hot Ones guest of all time! How many Americans have even heard of Kane? And why pick him out of all footballers? I'm so confused!
| Harry | Milktoast | Kane | ||||||
Perhaps, but Levy would thus prove himself to be a fool.
With or without Kane, Spurs are not joining the top four club in 2024. 5th is probably unrealistic, but let's call it borderline realistic. Daniel can believe otherwise, but when he finds out that Harry could not possibly deliver a top four spot and then watched him walk away on a free he will watch his club go into freefall. City, Arsenal, Liverpool and United are no longer competition for Spurs, who really have to be more worried about Newcastle, Brighton and Villa -- clubs that are in no way flukes to have finished Spurs last season.
Daniel can do a lot with 100m to rebuild the squad to enable it compete with the top four clubs, but he can do very little with the meager budget that he'll have after Harry leaves on a free and, if this what he decides is best for the club then he'll be treading water with the likes of Villa who look prepared to put Spurs in the rear view mirror.
If by the end of August Harry has refused to sign the new contract and Daniel decides to mortgage the future of Spurs for one last season for ol' times sake...club supporters will not be amused. The playbook Daniel should be looking at is from Liverpool when they sold Coutinho. It changed everything for Liverpool.
Genuinely the best striker we could possibly get for right now. United need to get their shit together and just put an irresistible bid in for him. Feck it
They sold Coutinho to Barcelona, not Manchester City and he had nowhere near the effect on the team that a talisman like Harry has. They also had a brilliant bit of purchasing which is a rarity in football, something they themselves have been struggling to replicate. Furthermore they got a ridiculous fee for that calibre of player, 100 million for Kane in this era of valuations doesn't even scratch what Coutinho was. Selling him to a rival further exacerbates what you were just saying about not reaching top 6 spots. Also our "meager" budget is about the same as most other clubs at this point. We spend about 100+ mil net every season at this point now. Others have stated it but some extra cash from Harry guarantees nothing. In fact when looking at most other clubs who do so it almost always further sets the club back.
Overall though my point isn't even about the logic - it's the fact they will not do it. It's not up for debate he absolutely will not be sold to another PL team. His only option to do so would be leaving on a free next summer - which could easily happen.
Overall I agree with the approach - don't sell players of that calibre to your opponents under any circumstances. I don't even hate the idea of Harry being sold. I think we're in a period of heavy transition and I think the club and others around know it. I'd sooner rip the bandaid off as soon as possible than not. That said there's a value to these things and that value isn't selling to your rivals and it isn't 80 million euro either.
The most random Hot Ones guest of all time! How many Americans have even heard of Kane? And why pick him out of all footballers? I'm so confused!
He’s so bloody boring too.
I've been to Germany before, it's an amazing country. Nothing you say is wrong.
What I'm saying is this is a guy who married his childhood sweetheart, they both come from local family units. They also have a growing family unit they're building for themselves. Riches and quick flights are one thing but we're talking about an individual and a family that aren't the type for change. He's still at his boyhood club, still with the same girl, still with the all the same family around them. If Kane was the type that any of that appealed to he would have been gone years ago.
I'm not saying Kane won't leave or wouldn't I'm just saying Bayern's time is now. They need Kane to turn down Tottenham's contract offers and they need to stump up the cash that will convince Totenham (the current rumours aren't close to what it would take).
When he's on the market next year I'm telling you that Bayern don't have the power to persuade staying close to all the family and the life he's always known. The time to have that happen is now or never.
I also agree that Bayern needs him and there simply aren't number 9s of that calibre or even close to it on the market. I heavily realize that as a Tottenham supporter who is at a complete loss of who we even bring in to help replace him (even if he's irreplaceable). That said Bayern has to realize that they can't pull the same moves they have in the past with players - it just feels as though they think they can.
And I want that feeling to be wrong. I would like Kane to go to Bayern rather than a rival.
Yeah. That was probably one of the most boring interviews ever on that show.
They did sell to Barcelona, not another PL club, but Spurs aren't exactly in the same position as Liverpool was then. Liverpool realistically dreamed of a PL title run -- there is no chance Levy actually believes that Spurs are in a position to make a run at the PL title.
But you are right that for Levy it's not about logic. It's about his ego. But there is one thing egomaniacs we all know and it's that they respond to intense pressure. If Harry publicly presses for a move to United -- and it could only be United if Bayern doesn't happen (no chance Harry goes to PSG) -- Levy will be under intense pressure to agree to the sale provided that it's a huge sum. Under what terms exactly is unknowable, but if Levy does not agree to the sale and Spurs go into freefall the man is toast. He's only 61 and still has a solid 5 year runway ahead of him to make one more run for glory if he doesn't sacrifice it all to satisfy his ego.
But with the sale of Kane, 100m can be spent to strengthen the squad to compete for the PL trophy even this season. I think Harry scored 30 PL goals last season but Spurs still finished 8th. I might be wrong about this but I think the very next season after Liverpool sold Coutinho they won the PL trophy. I won't go so far as to say that if Spurs sell Harry that they'll take the PL trophy, but they would have the resources from the sale the of their 30-year old player to strengthen areas of the squad that need strengthening to lay the foundation for a serious PL title run season after next.
Letting Harry walk on a free would be detrimental to the best interests of the club unless it's a direct competitor for a EL spot, ego or no ego.
If football isn't the most popular sport in the US by next year then I blame Kane!
Looks that way at the moment, but realistically the odds are Spurs will win feck all with or without him. Levy knows he will have to lose Kane at some point so logic says sell now and start the rebuild.
Difficult to believe any CEO would be so stupidly pig-headed.
I’m surprised a Yank doesn’t know that it’s milquetoast.
I been saying it for time but I think we’ll be in for Kane towards the end of the window
1. Harry isn't going to pressure for a move to United for multiple reasons. Firstly he's not going to pressure the club to go anywhere. He loves the club and with one year left his future is in his hands, he doesn't have to burn any bridges with the club he loves.
2. I know this is a United forum and your team is on the up but...if he didn't put up a big stink for City who are a much more sure bet for the top trophies than United. Sorry. Then he's not pressuring for a move to United. Almost your entire logic rests on that point and it's a very weak and never happening type of point.
Also selling Kane and reinvesting that 100mil will not put Spurs in contention for a PL title. Not even the most deluded of Spurs supporters would even think that. This season or the next.
I don't think you're wrong about winning things with or without him I just don't think people realize the revenue he generates the club. The offers being thrown around basically amount to even or less than even for what he generates. Meaning leaving on a free but getting a year out of Kane's play and revenue generated is still a logically sound move.
I personally agree about selling now and rebuilding. That said don't sell to a rival and don't sell for these paltry fees getting thrown around. Even with just 1 year left on his contract Kane is so far and away better than any other goal scorer any team could hope to recruit this summer. It's not even close.
You have heard of levy right? He would rather hold on to kane, and hope they can do well enough. If bayern offer 100m eur they will sell him. If we offered they would want 125m
I actually don't think anything short of double what Bayern offered would convince Levy to even pick up the phone from a PL club.
I’m curious as to where you got those specifications - where do you see sponsorship, branding and prize money gets them that much. What prizes have they won when he’s there?????? If you’re referring to top 4, they didn’t get it last season and look less likely this season.
but seriously - where is the proof for that?
Exactly